Fence security : What can you use ??

Fence security : What can you use ??

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bomb

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3,692 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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What is acceptable,( in the eyes of the Law,) with regard to putting 'security items' on the top of a fence. A fence that surrounds a domestic property, and is intended to stop the local youths climbing over to make a short cut across gardens and private land.

If barbed wire, (or similar), is fitted, is that legal, or can some youth take you to court if they get injured whislt climbing over the fence ??

I also thought about the burglar type paint that comes off the fence and end up all over your clothes.

Any advice or suggestions ??

ViperDave

5,530 posts

253 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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I thick rambling rose with nice thorns climbing on a trellis that will break and land them on the yuccas in the border below. well that's what will greet anyone trying to climb over our back fence which runs along a road.

bomb

Original Poster:

3,692 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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The fence requires something that can be fitted to have immediate effect rather that let a thorny bush grow over a period of months/years.

Nice thought though.

JakesterUK

869 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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I'm guessing this is a wooden fence, how tall is it and does it back onto a road/pavement (where someone innocently walking past could brush against).


breamster

1,014 posts

180 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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A mate spread the dirtiest grease he could find over the top of his fences.

Not a physical deterrent as such but they local chavs soon stopped after getting their clothes covered in the stuff.


bomb

Original Poster:

3,692 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Fence is 6 foot 6 inches high. It forms the boundry between the private land and a walkway thats for public use.

If some security items were fitted to the 'private' side of the fence, no members of the public could get harmed by them if they used the path as a throroughfare, as intended.

randlemarcus

13,522 posts

231 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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bomb said:
Fence is 6 foot 6 inches high. It forms the boundry between the private land and a walkway thats for public use.

If some security items were fitted to the 'private' side of the fence, no members of the public could get harmed by them if they used the path as a throroughfare, as intended.
Not sure that works, in practice. If they get injured being scum, they will still sue.

I'd go with anti-vandal paint all over flimsy trellis (on top of the fence), and plant hawthorn and other spikey things on the public side.

j4ckos mate

3,013 posts

170 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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carpet gripper rods, hardly noticeable,

"oh, didnt know they were there, previous owner must have fitted them"

i wouldnt worry abouth the law, you have to do whats right to protect whats yours whilst at work

JakesterUK

869 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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OK. so avoiding the obvious carpet runner, barbed wire, broken glass in cement options all of which if some scumbag injures themselves on WILL sue you.

I'd get a load of 6x1 or 6x2 trellis which you then paint in either anti vandal paint (but get quotes first as the paint can be very expensive) or a cheaper option would be really thick old engine oil or similar.

Oh and a beware of the dog sign on the fence never does any harm

JakesterUK

869 posts

199 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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OK. so avoiding the obvious carpet runner, barbed wire, broken glass in cement options all of which if some scumbag injures themselves on WILL sue you.

I'd get a load of 6x1 or 6x2 trellis which you then paint in either anti vandal paint (but get quotes first as the paint can be very expensive) or a cheaper option would be really thick old engine oil or similar.

Oh and a beware of the dog sign on the fence never does any harm

ViperDave

5,530 posts

253 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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bomb said:
The fence requires something that can be fitted to have immediate effect rather that let a thorny bush grow over a period of months/years.

Nice thought though.
Trellis 18" above the fence is instant and will make it hard to climb over, a yucca or other prickly bush in the landing zone can be instant also, the rose just makes it better over time and with the right one will be more viscous than barbed wire yet you cant be blamed for a rose having thorns.

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Google plastic fence spikes.

I had to climb over a customers wall when they forgot to leave us a key for the gate. They had these things on top off the wall and I can assure you they f***ing hurt, even when covering them with a thick hi-vis jacket!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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I saw some anti-cat stuff in local Diy store that should do the job. It looks like carpet gripper but is all plastic & looks strong It will cause discomfort but not damage!

[beaten to it!]

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 7th May 10:26

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Dip some carpet gripper in AIDS and nail it on top.

Roger645

1,728 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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I have carpet gripper on mine, it prevents squirrels running along the fence as we had some squirrel problems a little while ago.

j4ckos mate

3,013 posts

170 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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B17NNS said:
Dip some carpet gripper in AIDS and nail it on top.
or dip them in boiling water so they burn themselves!

bomb

Original Poster:

3,692 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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laugh

I like the 'boiling water' idea. Thats right up my street ( as in : my sense of humour).

The paint / Carpet gripper seems a good idea : To keep the squirres off, of course.;)

Thanks for the advice chaps...

Flintstone

8,644 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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I would strongly advise not fitting anything of a spikey nature. You WILL get grief when someone, who we know shouldn't be there, climbs your fence and receives a surprise course of acupuncture.

Go for the grease or anti-climb paint. It will have the same effect without comebacks.

GuinnessMK

1,608 posts

222 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Ricky_M said:

Google plastic fence spikes.

I had to climb over a customers wall when they forgot to leave us a key for the gate. They had these things on top off the wall and I can assure you they f***ing hurt, even when covering them with a thick hi-vis jacket!
Another vote for these. We've got them fitted to the top of our fence, and even the cat doesn't walk along the top of the fence anymore!

Roger645

1,728 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Flintstone said:
I would strongly advise not fitting anything of a spikey nature. You WILL get grief when someone, who we know shouldn't be there, climbs your fence and receives a surprise course of acupuncture.

Go for the grease or anti-climb paint. It will have the same effect without comebacks.
I would be careful with grease and paint as they might claim against you for any skin conditions especially if you haven't pinned the COSHH details on the fence.

Why not leave your doors unlocked in case they break a window and cut themselves.rolleyes