Impressive BiB response

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mutt k

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3,959 posts

240 months

Sunday 25th September 2005
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Had to ring 999 at 3.30 this morning as half a dozen yobs decided that bonnet jumping in our street was a really good idea. Operator at New Scotland Yard was a pain as he was more interested in taking my details than hearing about the reason for the call, and of course during the call said yobs got bored and wandered off. Anyway I passed on descriptions and the direction in which they went and about 4 minutes later there was a panda car prowling up and down the street. Don't know whether they caught up with them. but at least they turned up quickly :clap:

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

232 months

Sunday 25th September 2005
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Good to hear that Richard, nice to read some positive comments about BiB on here for a change because it tends to be the negative things people remember.....lets just hope they did manage to stop some of them....

gemini

11,352 posts

266 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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Bet is this doesnt get the usual suspects posting
Positive feedback for the Met! Things are looking up

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

246 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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Dont forget you may think that the Operator is taking too much detail and little action,but whilst taking the call on cut out a response may be directed and then a return to getting more details.

dvd

james_j

3,996 posts

257 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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Yes, the good stuff should also get reported. A while back, three pikeys decided to wander around my garden so, after peeking around some bushes and taking the reg of their pikey wagon just before they got back in an drove off (open transit surprise surprise and probably not registered) a BIB car was in the driveway within minutes then off in their direction.

I didn't hear any more but at least it may have made the pikeys think twice before roaming around my area again.

autismuk

1,529 posts

242 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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Hollywood Wheels said:
Good to hear that Richard, nice to read some positive comments about BiB on here for a change because it tends to be the negative things people remember.....lets just hope they did manage to stop some of them....


And your chances of a result .... nil ?

I have a great deal of sympathy with the BiB. The stupidities (like the "Bollocks to Blair" shirt) are a minority or in some cases forced on the Police Officers for political reaons.

Most BiB are excellent ; most of their managers are not.

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

232 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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Yeah, suppose i've got to agree with you on that one Paul....

JoolzB

3,549 posts

251 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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They certainly deserve a pat on the back, I know I get one everyday when I turn up for work It's a shame that this kindda response has become so rare and now we feel that if we get any kind of action that it deserves praise. Sorry if this sounds negative as I know alot of cops do a great job, it's just worrying.

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

232 months

Monday 26th September 2005
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Not at all Joolz, it's a perfectly understandable attitude and of course you're right, people do deserve a much better response. I spend all day going to calls, some of them days old, and get told at every one "Well you lot arn't bothered, you never come when we phone you anyway....". I try to explain that well actually i am bothered but when you have dozens of calls to go to and there's maybe three or four cars out that day......well, you know the rest...

I always say to people, we don't need to recruit more, there's more than enough Police employed to do the job, unfortunately far too many of them are sat on their backsides in offices doing 9-5 with their weekends off. I'm looked upon as some sort of mug for wanting to actually patrol in uniform doing shifts...

WildCat

8,369 posts

245 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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Ist true - sometimes they turn up - but they still cannot catch anyone. But soul destroying when they do as some daft Pee-cee mags und pee-cee bench book guideline ... they end up copping same guy over and over (This guideline clobbers middle classes und council tax rebels who want value for money und rises in line with inflation as zero waste of their hard earned taxes on nonsense jollies und daft dangerous cycle paths per some equally daft target.)



Hollywood Wheels said:
Not at all Joolz, it's a perfectly understandable attitude and of course you're right, people do deserve a much better response. I spend all day going to calls, some of them days old, and get told at every one "Well you lot arn't bothered, you never come when we phone you anyway....". I try to explain that well actually i am bothered but when you have dozens of calls to go to and there's maybe three or four cars out that day......well, you know the rest...


ist no excuse. You cannot catch the scumbag then. Ist why we have the rise in crime: they know you don't (or cannot) turn up for days.

Besides - you use excuse of cars -= not heard the word of the word bicycle then? (Why they invested thousands of pounds into teaching you lot how to use a bicycle pump und wear lycra with style - though did wonder about the riding up and down steps bit of the course

Or what about that gimmick in press with Derbyshire police? They were given bus tickets to go investigate and were full of the benefits of "bonding" with the community by helping ladies with their shopping on the bus and setting world to rights by chatting with the passengers They made biggest publicity of it at time.

So - no excuses regading "no car"

Shall go hide under the again as I strikes again with the BiB bash

I blame the management

Hollywood Wheels said:

I always say to people, we don't need to recruit more, there's more than enough Police employed to do the job, unfortunately far too many of them are sat on their backsides in offices doing 9-5 with their weekends off. I'm looked upon as some sort of mug for wanting to actually patrol in uniform doing shifts...


But crime ist not 9-5..Monday to Friday.... Thought that was par for the course - working shifts. What would happen if doctors und nurses decided to man hospitals in office hours only? Beside there are perks with the shifts... 5 day on /4 days off as rest days and so on. Ist like hgaving week's hols every few days. Or you get overtime by covering the 9-5 paper stuff!

john57

1,849 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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Hollywood Wheels said:

But crime ist not 9-5..Monday to Friday.... Thought that was par for the course - working shifts. What would happen if doctors und nurses decided to man hospitals in office hours only? Beside there are perks with the shifts... 5 day on /4 days off as rest days and so on. Ist like hgaving week's hols every few days. Or you get overtime by covering the 9-5 paper stuff!


Perks with shifts - yeah right .... 5 days on, 4 off ..... like hols, yeah right .....

However the rest days are made up they add up to no more than a normal person working monday to friday gets. If you get 4 days off it's because your shift rota has made you work shed loads of hours prior to that.

I work 7 or 8 days on and get 2 or 3 days off .... I don't work 12 hour days, just the normal 8 hour shifts .... I would love to work Mon-Fri 9-5 but I personally don't like a desk!

JoolzB

3,549 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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Hollywood Wheels said:
I always say to people, we don't need to recruit more, there's more than enough Police employed to do the job, unfortunately far too many of them are sat on their backsides in offices doing 9-5 with their weekends off. I'm looked upon as some sort of mug for wanting to actually patrol in uniform doing shifts...

HW, thanks for the polite reply.

That seems to imply that alot of your colleagues prefer the 9-5 easier life? I guess there comes a time in the career where many people want that option or are just not fit enough to do the job that they originally envisaged?

WildCat

8,369 posts

245 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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john57 said:










Hollywood Wheels said:

But crime ist not 9-5..Monday to Friday.... Thought that was par for the course - working shifts. What would happen if doctors und nurses decided to man hospitals in office hours only? Beside there are perks with the shifts... 5 day on /4 days off as rest days and so on. Ist like hgaving week's hols every few days. Or you get overtime by covering the 9-5 paper stuff!



Perks with shifts - yeah right .... 5 days on, 4 off ..... like hols, yeah right .....

However the rest days are made up they add up to no more than a normal person working monday to friday gets. If you get 4 days off it's because your shift rota has made you work shed loads of hours prior to that.

I work 7 or 8 days on and get 2 or 3 days off .... I don't work 12 hour days, just the normal 8 hour shifts .... I would love to work Mon-Fri 9-5 but I personally don't like a desk!




But john Liebchen - Mad Doc as junior worked 120 hour weeks und was supposed to study on top.

But ist a good rest to have 4 day off after getting work over und done with. But your shifts would stillwork out at contracted hours. Ist just like office worker working a flexi - putting in the hours to accrue for the time off in lieu. Und sof course some do not get that luxury - are expected to put in the hours without getting overtime payment or consideration for their time as not all employers are nice blokes! Some rogue firms out in big bad world.

But policing - not a 9-5 job by very nature. Ist something you think of when you apply for any job or commit to any profession. You look at its hours, its demands, its pay und conditions - und make a choice. Personally think police have a very good deal overall - but not a profession which should be entered into lightly either.

JoolzB

3,549 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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WildCat said:



But john Liebchen - Mad Doc as junior worked 120 hour weeks und was supposed to study on top.

But ist a good rest to have 4 day off after getting work over und done with. But your shifts would stillwork out at contracted hours. Ist just like office worker working a flexi - putting in the hours to accrue for the time off in lieu. Und sof course some do not get that luxury - are expected to put in the hours without getting overtime payment or consideration for their time as not all employers are nice blokes! Some rogue firms out in big bad world.

But policing - not a 9-5 job by very nature. Ist something you think of when you apply for any job or commit to any profession. You look at its hours, its demands, its pay und conditions - und make a choice. Personally think police have a very good deal overall - but not a profession which should be entered into lightly either.

As usual spot on.

How is it that when the offer of overtime and doing some scamera work that there are never any end of applicants who want to earn some extra dosh? It don't make much sense to me.

john57

1,849 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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How is it that when the offer of overtime and doing some scamera work that there are never any end of applicants who want to earn some extra dosh? It don't make much sense to me.[/quote]

Obviously you know something I don't ...... I've been in traffic for 3 1/2 years and haven't seen any of my officers get offered money to run a scamera van - only 1 out of about 50 would even know how to operate it ..... and I don't think you would see a rush even if they did ! Most of my officers are sick of working overtime they don't want to do and will not volunteer for any at all.

JoolzB

3,549 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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john57 said:

Obviously you know something I don't ......

obviously. Different county police policies I spose.

granville

18,764 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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I'm glad to hear it.

Of course, if just some of the billions wasted on communism each year were instead diverted towards a more robust, preferably armed, phallanx of reasonably intimidating beat officers to patrol every few square miles of heavily populated urban locale, then these miserable rodents might instead be lying blooded, roundly beaten and conceivably deterred from any future vehicular panel beatage, instead of being free to perpetrate ever more depressing acts of animalistic mindlessness.

JoolzB

3,549 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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derestrictor said:
if just some of the billions wasted on communism each year were instead diverted towards a more robust, preferably armed, phallanx of reasonably intimidating beat officers to patrol every few square miles of heavily populated urban locale, then these miserable rodents might instead be lying blooded, roundly beaten and conceivably deterred from any future vehicular panel beatage

Ah Utopia

Hollywood Wheels

3,689 posts

232 months

Tuesday 27th September 2005
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Derestrictor for PM!!!!

Vipers

32,958 posts

230 months

Wednesday 28th September 2005
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Always good to hear of a good response for once in a while, no doubt nothing else to do now that the woman had been duly processed for the smartie crime, she did not commit.

Couldnt believe that story when I read it the other day, what a complete bunch of tossers. I liked this one I saw once

Householder calls the plod "There is someone breaking into my garage, can you send someone round quickly"

"Sorry sir, we are awfully busy right now"

Man waits 5 mins, and calls back "No need to send anyone round now, I'v shot the bugger"

Within minutes, there are police cars, choppers, swat teams sourounding the house, the sergent opens the garage door, and theres the burgler in action.

Says to the man "I thought you said you had shot him sir"

"Yes, and I thought you said you were busy"