It's “reasonable” to call Iain Duncan Smith “Tory scum”

It's “reasonable” to call Iain Duncan Smith “Tory scum”

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bitchstewie

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Vanden Saab

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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bhstewie said:
So, telling someone to fk off is also acceptable?

BikeBikeBIke

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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From the article: “reasonableness of the conduct”.

This wasn't solely about the words.

IroningMan

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252 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
So, telling someone to fk off is also acceptable?
The ruling confirms that using the words 'Tory Scum' was not criminal. For a determination on whether it might be acceptable for a Minister of the Crown to tell members of the public to fk Off you'll need to look elsewhere...

Vanden Saab

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80 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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IroningMan said:
Vanden Saab said:
So, telling someone to fk off is also acceptable?
The ruling confirms that using the words 'Tory Scum' was not criminal. For a determination on whether it might be acceptable for a Minister of the Crown to tell members of the public to fk Off you'll need to look elsewhere...
They also told him to fk off that is why i asked...

link said:
Haslam and Wood had followed Duncan Smith from a short distance. They separately called him “Tory scum”. Wood added: “fk off out of Manchester.”
Edited by Vanden Saab on Tuesday 21st November 19:10

IroningMan

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
IroningMan said:
Vanden Saab said:
So, telling someone to fk off is also acceptable?
The ruling confirms that using the words 'Tory Scum' was not criminal. For a determination on whether it might be acceptable for a Minister of the Crown to tell members of the public to fk Off you'll need to look elsewhere...
They also told him to fk off that is why i asked...

link said:
Haslam and Wood had followed Duncan Smith from a short distance. They separately called him “Tory scum”. Wood added: “fk off out of Manchester.”
Edited by Vanden Saab on Tuesday 21st November 19:10
All covered by the ruling.

sugerbear

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Might not be nice, but it is quite right that people have a right to peaceful protest.


Vanden Saab

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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sugerbear said:
Might not be nice, but it is quite right that people have a right to peaceful protest.
Would you be as understanding if someone followed you and was shouting those things?

Ivan stewart

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42 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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sugerbear said:
Might not be nice, but it is quite right that people have a right to peaceful protest.
Bit low rent and naff , but if that makes them feel better then why not

Biggy Stardust

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
Would you be as understanding if someone followed you and was shouting those things?
Free speech includes things we dislike.

Vanden Saab

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
Vanden Saab said:
Would you be as understanding if someone followed you and was shouting those things?
Free speech includes things we dislike.
Swearing and nasty personal insults have nothing to do with free speech.

T6 vanman

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105 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Vanden Saab said:
Would you be as understanding if someone followed you and was shouting those things?
Free speech includes things we dislike.
Swearing and nasty personal insults have nothing to do with free speech.
And yet telling a Bahraini to 'go back to Bahrain' is a public order offence silly

CoolHands

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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As long as they didn’t call him a pleb. That’s exclusively for Tory MPs to use.

Cold

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96 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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A kinder, gentler politics.

OutInTheShed

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32 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
IroningMan said:
Vanden Saab said:
So, telling someone to fk off is also acceptable?
The ruling confirms that using the words 'Tory Scum' was not criminal. For a determination on whether it might be acceptable for a Minister of the Crown to tell members of the public to fk Off you'll need to look elsewhere...
They also told him to fk off that is why i asked...

link said:
Haslam and Wood had followed Duncan Smith from a short distance. They separately called him “Tory scum”. Wood added: “fk off out of Manchester.”
Edited by Vanden Saab on Tuesday 21st November 19:10
TBH, 'fk Off Out of Manchester!' is generally very good advice.

768

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102 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Open season for politicians to tell judicial scum what they should do then.

Tribal Chestnut

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Of course.

Randy Winkman

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Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Vanden Saab said:
Would you be as understanding if someone followed you and was shouting those things?
Free speech includes things we dislike.
Swearing and nasty personal insults have nothing to do with free speech.
Eh? What's "free speech" then?

turbobloke

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266 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Vanden Saab said:
Would you be as understanding if someone followed you and was shouting those things?
Free speech includes things we dislike.
Swearing and nasty personal insults have nothing to do with free speech.
Something to do with words and behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace? 'This behaviour need not be noisy but still of a nature that would cause concern to other people, examples include persistently following someone...'

S600BSB

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112 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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It completely put me off buying a Morgan when I discovered that IDS owns one.