Busted with Illegal plate
Discussion
av185 said:
Because in the illegal and f
k the law attitude and Chav central world of the moronic Chavplater, vanity comes first and foremost above anything else.
And here's a prime vile example, on one of the most ubiquitous Chav Chariots of choice, a low rent 'aspirational'
poverty spec BMW 
Conversely I’ve just driven down the M3 and in front me for quite a lot of the trip was a BMW 116D with the plate T9. Correctly spaced on correctly sized plates, an enormously valuable plate on a thoroughly mundane car.k the law attitude and Chav central world of the moronic Chavplater, vanity comes first and foremost above anything else.And here's a prime vile example, on one of the most ubiquitous Chav Chariots of choice, a low rent 'aspirational'
poverty spec BMW I used to run around in my RX8 with a 3/4 front plate because it looked better (pic in profile if you're bothered). It was the correct font and correctly spaced and I never had any trouble with it. I haven't noticed an enormous upsurge in number plate tttery, I guess they're just clamping down on these heinous criminals more nowadays.
ttery, I guess they're just clamping down on these heinous criminals more nowadays.xjay1337 said:
I am a logical person and if the font is correct why does it matter if it says "M50 MYG" or "M5 0MY G" ?
As long as it can be read by the cameras then what's the issue?
Because it isn't just about cameras. It's also about people. People expect patterns, or rather find it easier tor remember patterns. They are more likely to remember a number plate if it follows the expected pattern of letters and numbers in the correct spacing and sizing. The human factor.As long as it can be read by the cameras then what's the issue?
djc206 said:
av185 said:
Because in the illegal and fk the law attitude and Chav central world of the moronic Chavplater, vanity comes first and foremost above anything else.
And here's a prime vile example, on one of the most ubiquitous Chav Chariots of choice, a low rent 'aspirational' poverty spec BMW
Conversely I’ve just driven down the M3 and in front me for quite a lot of the trip was a BMW 116D with the plate T9. Correctly spaced on correctly sized plates, an enormously valuable plate on a thoroughly mundane car.k the law attitude and Chav central world of the moronic Chavplater, vanity comes first and foremost above anything else.And here's a prime vile example, on one of the most ubiquitous Chav Chariots of choice, a low rent 'aspirational'
poverty spec BMW Another prime example of an illegal chavplate which would be difficult to identify due to the extent of b
disation...all in the name of vanity.
Vaud said:
xjay1337 said:
I am a logical person and if the font is correct why does it matter if it says "M50 MYG" or "M5 0MY G" ?
As long as it can be read by the cameras then what's the issue?
Because it isn't just about cameras. It's also about people. People expect patterns, or rather find it easier tor remember patterns. They are more likely to remember a number plate if it follows the expected pattern of letters and numbers in the correct spacing and sizing. The human factor.As long as it can be read by the cameras then what's the issue?
I remember when the current format AB12 ABC was introduced I saw something on TV with some boffin explaining exactly why that format was chosen and how they tested human ability to read and recall different formats of test plates in different scenarios.
So many times people with illegal plates go back to the ‘ANPR can read it’ argument, completely ignoring that people also need to be able to read and recall plates, too.
PorkInsider said:
Exactly this.
I remember when the current format AB12 ABC was introduced I saw something on TV with some boffin explaining exactly why that format was chosen and how they tested human ability to read and recall different formats of test plates in different scenarios.
So many times people with illegal plates go back to the ‘ANPR can read it’ argument, completely ignoring that people also need to be able to read and recall plates, too.
Thank you. A lot of research goes into the design process. Even with the prior system of plates, it was standardised for readability and recall prior to any ANPR cameras, or indeed, digital cameras of any form.I remember when the current format AB12 ABC was introduced I saw something on TV with some boffin explaining exactly why that format was chosen and how they tested human ability to read and recall different formats of test plates in different scenarios.
So many times people with illegal plates go back to the ‘ANPR can read it’ argument, completely ignoring that people also need to be able to read and recall plates, too.
PorkInsider said:
Exactly this.
I remember when the current format AB12 ABC was introduced I saw something on TV with some boffin explaining exactly why that format was chosen and how they tested human ability to read and recall different formats of test plates in different scenarios.
So many times people with illegal plates go back to the ‘ANPR can read it’ argument, completely ignoring that people also need to be able to read and recall plates, too.
Exactly it's why we leave spaces in phone numbers, put commas in long numbers etc. It's the way we scan things. I remember when the current format AB12 ABC was introduced I saw something on TV with some boffin explaining exactly why that format was chosen and how they tested human ability to read and recall different formats of test plates in different scenarios.
So many times people with illegal plates go back to the ‘ANPR can read it’ argument, completely ignoring that people also need to be able to read and recall plates, too.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Vaud said:
Because it isn't just about cameras. It's also about people. People expect patterns, or rather find it easier tor remember patterns. They are more likely to remember a number plate if it follows the expected pattern of letters and numbers in the correct spacing and sizing. The human factor.
Utter TwaddleThey manage to cope with private plates that are not ‘morphed’ to read something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_recognition_...
Vaud is totally correct. It's much easier to remember something if it is presented in a familiar pattern. Messing about with the spacing on a numberplate messes with the brain's ability to memorise that plate. Yes, your brain can re-jig the b
dized plate, but why not just have a law stating each numberplate needs to conform to the same easily-recognizable pattern?nurseholliday said:
You can do better, go on, try and really achieve your potential.
Is a car registration number like a TV or Hoover serial number?
Yes as it's a unique identifier.Is a car registration number like a TV or Hoover serial number?
You can change the engine on a car so the numbers don't match but the unique identifier will stay the same.
Similar to how your IP address on whatever device your posting this twaddle on can vary but if you're using the same device your MAC address will stay the same.
I had a smaller (than stock) plate on the front of an old track car I would occasionally use on the street. I fitted it because I thought it looked better (it probably didn’t look much different really) and I justified it to myself by thinking it wouldn’t scrape on speed humps etc. I knew it wasn’t legal and I decided to run the risk of getting fined for its use. It was hardly a serious offence after all. I was eventually stopped by the Police, fined etc. Rightfully so. Nowadays I just do what’s required (by law) and appreciate the rules are there with good reason and not up for debate because I think how my car looks is more important.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I still say twaddle and a defence to be disparaging about plates you don't like.
There is no familiar patter though - is there?
We've had pre-2000 the letter, three numbers, three letters
then two letters, two numbers, three letters
you can legitimately but all variations of a letter, one or two numbers and three letters and many many more variations.
I don't have any private plates fwiw. This holier than though and horsest judgmental attitude - and then justifying it by any means we are seeing on PH is vile.
I didn't pass comment. I personally don't mind smaller plates. I mildly object to mis-spaced plates.There is no familiar patter though - is there?
We've had pre-2000 the letter, three numbers, three letters
then two letters, two numbers, three letters
you can legitimately but all variations of a letter, one or two numbers and three letters and many many more variations.
I don't have any private plates fwiw. This holier than though and horses
t judgmental attitude - and then justifying it by any means we are seeing on PH is vile.I was highlighting that it is rational and not limited to ANPR. No holier than though, but there is a solid scientific reason why the plates are designed the way they are and a massive body of evidence to back up my point.
In the grand scheme of motoring offences it doesn't wind me up compared to say, kids not in seat belts, littering or parents smoking in the car with babies.
PorkInsider said:
Vaud said:
xjay1337 said:
I am a logical person and if the font is correct why does it matter if it says "M50 MYG" or "M5 0MY G" ?
As long as it can be read by the cameras then what's the issue?
Because it isn't just about cameras. It's also about people. People expect patterns, or rather find it easier tor remember patterns. They are more likely to remember a number plate if it follows the expected pattern of letters and numbers in the correct spacing and sizing. The human factor.As long as it can be read by the cameras then what's the issue?
I remember when the current format AB12 ABC was introduced I saw something on TV with some boffin explaining exactly why that format was chosen and how they tested human ability to read and recall different formats of test plates in different scenarios.
So many times people with illegal plates go back to the ‘ANPR can read it’ argument, completely ignoring that people also need to be able to read and recall plates, too.
xjay1337 said:
If you can't read a number plate with different spacing then you have a problem and shouldn't be driving.
It isn't reading it at a spot moment, you have missed the point. It's reading it and then later recalling it. Set patterns - font, spacing, etc help your brain.Otherwise, why have a standard?
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