Was I being too Harsh? -Driving whilst using phone
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swilly said:
Whooah there horsey.
Who cares about KSI's and statistics.
Its the mupper on the phone who scratches the paintwork on me motor, or dents me behind, or crushes me nose pod cos the frucker is too busy telling his bint-bird that he's only down the frucking road, will be home in 30 seconds and so to put dinner on.
These are the accidents the cops cant be arsed to attend, and you are left to sort it out with your insurance company and his.
After, that is, he has told his insurance company that it was YOU who crashed into him.
Nothing but grief, and WHY?
Because some pompous arrogant fart-head couldnt keep his fabulous life on hold for just 30 frucking seconds.
Mobile phone use distracts attention.
Speeding encourages attention.
There's nothing else to say.
Plenty more actually
Again, this could be translated into ANY scenario, not just phones, so why not ban it all
eg. Its the muppet who scratches the paintwork on me motor, or dents me behind, or crushes me nose pod cos the frucker is too busy changing his stereo.
This has NEARLY happened to me (someone crashing into me that is). He was avidly playing with his stereo and cut across me at a roundabout.
Needless. So LETS BAN STEREOS - THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY A DISTRACTION IN THE WRONG HANDS.
So why is this thread 6 pages long? Because PEOPLE WANT TO GET ON THEIR HIGH HORSE ABOUT A SILLY LAW BECAUSE IT MAKES THEM FEEL BETTER. Its basic human psychology, everyone strives to be better than everyone else, unfortunately its degraded into "umm they are breaking the law so therefore they are obviously child murdering psychopaths"
Some of the comments on this thread are scarily close to those said by BRAKE on speeding. You really want to sink to their level
I CANNOT have a go at anyone using a phone because I, like probably 95% of you have used a phone in the past while driving. I also speed like 95% of you probably do.
You have more chance of being hit by an old person using all their remaining skill than by someone using a phone while driving from experience IMO.
Everyone on here saying they dont use phones I take it you use a hands free kit?
If so do you ever drive one handed whilst talking hands free? Or do you grip the wheel with both hands and concentrate furiously?
Because could you explain the difference between driving one handed, talking hands free and holding the phone to your head?
If so do you ever drive one handed whilst talking hands free? Or do you grip the wheel with both hands and concentrate furiously?
Because could you explain the difference between driving one handed, talking hands free and holding the phone to your head?
you are doing with his sandwich in the first place....ScoobyZoom said:
I am still with gh0st... Sorry...
I reckon opening a ploughmans sandwich and a can of Coke is more dangerous but thats just me..
I have avoided this thread! Handys usually land me in bother....
I "lose the plot" on them ... 
und I have to hide under the 
I do not see why they are so important
If they want me ....they can leave message on it ansa phone doo-dah ....und I can then choose if I want to stay a lost cat.....
You all know what I think about mobile phones - und I care not whether they are hands free doo-dahs and handy doo-dahs.
I avoid using them - partly because the sound quality is so naff that a damn "forriner" has problems ....(und my Englisch ist OK - but still prefer my own lingo...especially on phone
) Und any forrin blokey or girly will tell you - you need to concentrate hard when conversing in L2/L3 on them. As for swigging water, milk and my Kit-E-Kat butty whilst drivin' - prefer to pull over to nice pretty area with nice pretty view and have civilised break - with little napkins so that my claws do not grease up my pride and joy as I have too much respect for the leather interior than to smear it with Branston pickles und Mayo!
Und I like feeling my nice sexed up car's engine, its handlings, controls and its speed, und the sound of its engine......
You mobile phone wallies just don't know what you are missing!
Und despite what they say about wimmin being multi-tasked..... well...
.... I am mult-tasked purrrrrr-fection on most things - apart from driving mit one hand either glued to eary hole or shovelling a Bremer (fishcake butty) into my mouth, und other doing a taxi-driver steer on the steering wheel, whilst trying to negotiate numpty bikers, cyclists, pedestrians und average twazaks.....und pot holes..... Shall never see why there is so much fuss - when you can just pull over at safest place possible, enjoy the scenery and just gab away ....
TripleS said:
FACT:- You cannot possibly concentrate 100% on your driving and use a phone.
You do not necessarily need 100% concentration on driving the whole of the time.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Liebchen - depends what road you are on - but I find I do need to concentrate most of the time - but then live in area where scamerati are everywhere ... but then - again - do have permanent-ish "passenger" at mo'
ScoobyZoom said:
I am still with gh0st... Sorry...
I reckon opening a ploughmans sandwich and a can of Coke is more dangerous but thats just me..
They get done as well, if the situation warrants it....rememeber the woman in the Daily Mail complaining of getting a ticket for driving whilst eating a 'Kit Kat'
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Cooperman said:
And what about the 'pompous, arrogant fart-head' who drives right up my rear bumper because I'm driving at the NSL and he wants to get home 10 seconds earlier by breaking the speed limit!
Please tell me where the difference is in safety terms.
Driving up your bumper is more to do with not paying attention than speeding I would say.......and more likely to occur because said pompous arrogant fart-head was on his bleedin phone at the time.
swilly said:
And what about the 'pompous, arrogant fart-head' who drives right up my rear bumper because I'm driving at the NSL and he wants to get home 10 seconds earlier by breaking the speed limit!
Please tell me where the difference is in safety terms.
Driving up your bumper is more to do with not paying attention than speeding I would say.......and more likely to occur because said pompous arrogant fart-head was on his bleedin phone at the time.
So you're happy to break the law in respect of speed limits, but not happy that anyone else should break the law in respect of mobile phones, even though breaking speed limits causes more accidents than speeding. Am I alone in finding that attitude somewhat strange, especially as the use of hand held communications equipment is still allowed for police cars. I know they are exempt from the regulation as their kit uses different frequencies, but the basic problem exists, or doesn't exist for them as well.
I still say the original 'Driving Without Due Care and Attention' was quite sufficient for any unsafe use of a mobile and this blanket ban is just as inappropriate as certain speed limits. It's just part of the political obfuscation and spin used to further impose political control over drivers in the name of 'road safety'. In other words, it's a crock of s**t.
Cooperman said:
So you're happy to break the law in respect of speed limits, but not happy that anyone else should break the law in respect of mobile phones, even though breaking speed limits causes more accidents than speeding. Am I alone in finding that attitude somewhat strange,
When prohibition was introduced in to America in the 1920's?? it was the law. It was broken becasue there was little moral or social support for it. Yet it was still the law. It was repealed because there was little moral or social support for it.
Yet murder is still against the law.
To suggest breaking the law regarding drinking alcohol was the same as for murder is what you should find strange.
One action was unacceptable both legally, morally and socially, the other was only legally unacceptable.
The same goes for speeding and mobile phone use. You cannot simply reduce the debate to a case of 'braking the law regarding speeding = braking the law regarding using a mobile phone'.
cooperman said:
I still say the original 'Driving Without Due Care and Attention' was quite sufficient for any unsafe use of a mobile and this blanket ban is just as inappropriate as certain speed limits.
I would suggest all use of a hand held mobile is inappropriate - simply because of the distraction caused to the main priority whilst driving, that of driving.
cooperman said:
It's just part of the political obfuscation and spin used to further impose political control over drivers in the name of 'road safety'. In other words, it's a crock of s**t.
I would disagree simply becasue there is little financial gain in it for the government through penalty fines etc. In reality this is going to be very hard to police and gain a conviction. After all who can say if a person was scratching their ear or talking on a very small phone hidden in the palm of the hand.
I reckon it will go the way of drink driving - an offence that is now largely policed by your peers preventing/grassing you up
/reminding you not to do it.Here's my views then.
Sod the bloke using the phone, make a mental note give him a wide berth and treat him as a numpty, sod beeping and giving him the fingers at the end of the day its none of your business what he's upto and not your job to reprimand him, thats why we have coppers. OK you can all say what if he kills your wife or kids, or would you ignore a granny being mugged and come out with "think of the children" type arguements. Well yes but in my opinion sod it, its up to him what he does and the chances he takes not you. For all you know he could be talking to his wife who's trying to baracade the front door against burglers or the hospital about his sick mother, equally so he could be a psycho loonie tune who decides to run you off the road for beeping him, if you see something take your own precautions to allow for other peoples stupidity and keep yourself safe its not worth getting the arse about. If he's a serial arsehole sooner or later he'll pay the price and either get nicked or drive up a tree.
Sod the bloke using the phone, make a mental note give him a wide berth and treat him as a numpty, sod beeping and giving him the fingers at the end of the day its none of your business what he's upto and not your job to reprimand him, thats why we have coppers. OK you can all say what if he kills your wife or kids, or would you ignore a granny being mugged and come out with "think of the children" type arguements. Well yes but in my opinion sod it, its up to him what he does and the chances he takes not you. For all you know he could be talking to his wife who's trying to baracade the front door against burglers or the hospital about his sick mother, equally so he could be a psycho loonie tune who decides to run you off the road for beeping him, if you see something take your own precautions to allow for other peoples stupidity and keep yourself safe its not worth getting the arse about. If he's a serial arsehole sooner or later he'll pay the price and either get nicked or drive up a tree.
Best idea, drive around with the mobile in the boot. Avoid getting annoyed with other road users by keeping you EYES FIRMLY SHUT. If you're under the speed limit you will never have an accident so why bother getting stressed about what others are doing wrong.
More seriously, I try (but sometimes fail) to get upset by other people's driving as the only result is stress - which is more likely to make my driving worse.
I'm not perfect and can't expect anybody else to be.
More seriously, I try (but sometimes fail) to get upset by other people's driving as the only result is stress - which is more likely to make my driving worse.
I'm not perfect and can't expect anybody else to be.
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