Clamped!!

[Bella Smallville]

oldcynic said:

And what's the chances the new owner is Stone's nephew/niece/employee/associate who liked the look of your car?

After everything that's been going on I wouldn't be at all surprised

[Bella Smallville]

PintOfKittens said:

Bella Smallville said:

dwspirit said:

Bella Smallville said:

Cyberprog said:

Bella - why not just find out who they sold your car to from the DVLA's change of keeper, and just go round there and take it back? It's still property of the finance company/you, and possession is 9/10th of the law.

The DVLA won't tell me who the owner is, and when pressed they say it's because of the data protection act!!

Re-register it in your name and the last owner's address will be on there!

That's an idea but if I end up going after the new owner who bought the car then it may not look 'good' in the eyes of the court doh!

Get the MP to ask the DVLA who the new owner is. The MP is exempted under Parliamentary Privilege.

Thanks for that tip

[Bella Smallville]

elanfan said:

If Stone et al have a known address do I get the feeling of the folk on here that we'd be up for a mass 'peaceful' protest I reckon we could probably get over 1000 people to turn up to make feelings known. The press/TV would be very interested - could make it extremely uncomfortable for him to know that his strong arm/illegal dealings could result in a an extremely vocal mob descending on him.

See I would be totally up for this, I do love a good protest

[Bella Smallville]

elanfan said:

So how many are up for it then?

Do you have a location in mind - if so don't post it here. It would also be good to catch him 'in' when it happens. logisitics will be the difficulty here how do we make sure he isn't monitoring this thread - you can be sure he and his cronies are (BTW you are all major league aholes!)

Garlick and co - do you have a way you can ensure that if this arrnaged by Pm's to each other that none go to Stone and co

Well if you put my reg number into google this is the 1st searc result

[Bella Smallville]

Just to confirm what I have been told, the police won't do anything at all

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8675130.Clampershad_right_to_sell_Scott_s_car_/?ref=mr

[Bella Smallville]

BlueTwo2 said:

Bella.Smallville, I've followed this entire thread and think the whole thing is outrageous. I have to admire your restraint. I'd have taken my car back somehow, but probably have ended up in trouble, seeing as LBS are exempt from UK law!

Be careful referring to the personw ith the car now as the owner. YOU/Finance Company are the owner. They are merely the registered keeper.

Do you know if the car is still in your area or if it has been sold to someone elsewhere in the country?

The car is still in the area, around Southend/Shoebury its been seen!!

[Bella Smallville]

Dift said:

Im at a complete loss really! I don't see how this could be dropped by the police.

SM, I'm sorry you've had to go through this. There are thousands of unanswered questions.

I'm not sure if you've posted your reg number for the Alfa, but if you could that would be great and I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Good luck.

ML54 BFO

[Bella Smallville]

mark1970 said:

For the price LBS paid for your Alfa (nowt)it would of been cost effective for them to of changed the locks/immobiliser. Do you still have a spare key? Did the remote central locking still work on it?

I still have the spare key but have no idea if it still works, but I always make sure I have the key on me at all times, just incase

[Bella Smallville]

ZOLLAR said:

Bella Smallville said:

Just to confirm what I have been told, the police won't do anything at all

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8675130.Clampershad_right_to_sell_Scott_s_car_/?ref=mr

As somebody said in the comments on the article shouldn't you have the money from the sale minus the fines?.
Is this where the CCJ's against LBS are from?, previous people who they've clamped sold car then not returned the money to the owners?.
I'm not one who that's usually critical of the police but it certaintly does seem that they have dropped the ball on this.
I'm not sure exactly what laws have been broken but it can't be right if a clamping company can take a car and sell it almost immediately and not return any additional monies to the individual, if its legal to do that i'm surprised that this dosn't happen more.

All the outstanding CCJs are from people who have paid to get their cars back and then gone through the courts to get the money back, but with no luck I might add!

Oh and I am still waiting for my things to arrive from recorded delivery from Monday gone!!

[Bella Smallville]

BlueTwo2 said:

I just can't get my head around the police not being interested. Have you spoken to any national newspapers? Surely it's time to go all the way with this?

Have you filed a complaint with the IPCC yet?

I'd be absolutely spitting blood at this. Just a thought, but would the bosses of LBS have their cars registered at the now abandonned site they used to use? If so, you could send off to re-register their cars as yours. It would be a huge shame if they couldn't respond to the letter from the DVLA now they're not there anymore.

It would be an even bigger shame if you then had to have your new Range Rover recovered due to being locked out of it and losing your keys!

I will be making a complaint with the IPCC for sure as this is shoddy what the police have done

And the national newspapers seems not to be interested, having contacted them each several times

[Bella Smallville]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

Bella i feel terribly sorry for you. Essex police have proven themselves as has been said to be either deeply inept or deeply corrupt either way.

I wish there was a decent resolution to this and the fact that the national papers dont seem interested is even more worrying.

Have you tried the sun???

Also if i was you i would get all records etc together and take this immediately to the ipcc i would have done so loooong ago.

The sun is the only paper to have replied to my emails, just waiting for them to contact me again tbh!

I have all the records together but just waiting for a letter from my local MP then to the IPCC I go, wish I didn't have to though as I hate complaining

[Bella Smallville]

Victor McDade said:

Bella, I'm surprised the wail haven't got back with a view to running your story. They covered this recently:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323625/Mo...


Do you have a sympathy angle you can play on when it comes to trying to get your story in a national? Got any young children, illnesses you can play up, a frail old grandmother you drive to the supermarket with??

Funny you mention the sympathy angle fella, as my nan is actually rather ill having stage 3 cancer and my grandad recently put in a home but I was hoping not to have to play on that but it seems I may have to now!!

[Bella Smallville]

Dift said:

Not meaning to offend or anything Bella, but some of your posts come across as a little jumbled up etc... I assume it's your iPhone as you mentioned earlier...
When writing to the national newspapers, spend a bit of time thinking about what you want to put, but keep it short and concise. If it's long and wordy, they may skim read it and not fully understand what has happend.
Id be tempted to give a brief paragraph on what has happend, and then a few bullet points.. At the end maybe another paragraph about the clampers themselves (ccj's, bailiffs etc).

Thanks for the feed back fella, yea it is because of the iPhone as I am still getting used to it and a small screen grr!!

[Bella Smallville]

Rouleur said:

Bella Smallville said:

Just to confirm what I have been told, the police won't do anything at all

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8675130.Clampershad_right_to_sell_Scott_s_car_/?ref=mr

Where does the value of £10k come from?

From how much the car is worth plus everything that was done to her, as she was not standard at all!!

I just said to the reporter how much the car is worth and then how much all the bits cost together so he put that. The car on it's own totally standard is worth £3,500 as it was a late pre-facelift

I can give you a list of what was done to her if you like fella?

[Bella Smallville]

Rouleur said:

Bella Smallville said:

Rouleur said:

Bella Smallville said:

Just to confirm what I have been told, the police won't do anything at all

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/8675130.Clampershad_right_to_sell_Scott_s_car_/?ref=mr

Where does the value of £10k come from?

From how much the car is worth plus everything that was done to her, as she was not standard at all!!

I just said to the reporter how much the car is worth and then how much all the bits cost together so he put that. The car on it's own totally standard is worth £3,500 as it was a late pre-facelift

I can give you a list of what was done to her if you like fella?

Fire away. I'm curious to see what your £6.5k has gone into!

I'll try and provide links and the price it cost me at the time as well, hope I remember everything as well

• I had orginally bought some Bilstein B8 Sprint shocks - £595.79
• Then a set of Eibach lowering springs - £118.93
• Ragazzon uncilenced centre section - £84.79
• Autodelta backbox - £269.99
• I had then bought a K&N panel filter - £48.00
• BMC CDA with custom intake pipe £189.00
• A set of 16" Lusso alloys with cold weather tires fitted - £750.00
• A set of 17" SuperSport alloys with summer tires (that lasted 8000miles each time) - £1400.00
• GTA style xenon headlights - £1200.00
• GTA ARBs - £200.00
• GT style centre console - £70.00
• GT style leather Recaro seats - £600
• Piper fast road cams - £700
• Most recently a set of Bilstein B16 Coilovers (fully adjustables) - £1365.30

Grand Total is - £7591.30

So it's actually more than what I thought and that is not including the smaller cosmetic things either

Edited by Bella Smallville on Friday 19th November 23:02

[Bella Smallville]

oldcynic said:

Victor McDade said:

Bella, I'm surprised the wail haven't got back with a view to running your story. They covered this recently:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323625/Mo...

What a total non-story! Is that why it's in the Mail? Mother leaves car in pub car park, gets clamped, and pays £150.00 penalty.

Like Victor said though it's all about the sympathy angle - working at Dominoes to pay your way through college or something. Either that or get the Sun to out-story the Mail.

Bit late to fix it now, but what on earth possessed you to park in that space on that fateful night? You must have known the area and LBS's reputation for thuggery. I learned to keep well away from anywhere with the slightest hint of possible clamping 15 years ago when charges were £40 to £75. No excuse for your treatment, but a distinctly poor choice of space all the same.

See when I had parked up, the car was not actually in 'their' parking bay but two tyres we're on the line so they clamped it, hence why I was calling saying it was illegally clamped!!

[Bella Smallville]

oldcynic said:

Bella Smallville said:

See when I had parked up, the car was not actually in 'their' parking bay but two tyres we're on the line so they clamped it, hence why I was calling saying it was illegally clamped!!

Ah. Pretty harsh then. I presume from that you were almost entirely in a "correct" space.
Any mileage in bringing the landowner into any court action you take against LBS? It may at least set a precedent to get them off people's land, although their days are numbered anyway.
If you go for another round of contacting the nationals then as others have said you probably need to be offering a very short sensationalist version of the story from which they can grab a headline - they must get hundreds of emails to wade through; also did you manage to get any pictures of the car before they moved it?

It was totally harsh I feel

Now with the land owner, I found out yesterday that the land owner sold the land the exact same date as when LBS started dissolving their company, now I think that is a tad odd! Oh and the land owner actually owned a company as a front that now I can not track down, not got a website or anything and I only got the name of the company. Wish I knew of a way to find out who owns the company!

I have loads and loads of pictures of the car but none from that night doh!

I will be sending another email to the nationals as I will not give up!

[Bella Smallville]

Red Devil said:

Bella Smallville said:

oldcynic said:

Bella Smallville said:

See when I had parked up, the car was not actually in 'their' parking bay but two tyres we're on the line so they clamped it, hence why I was calling saying it was illegally clamped!!

Ah. Pretty harsh then. I presume from that you were almost entirely in a "correct" space.
Any mileage in bringing the landowner into any court action you take against LBS? It may at least set a precedent to get them off people's land, although their days are numbered anyway.
If you go for another round of contacting the nationals then as others have said you probably need to be offering a very short sensationalist version of the story from which they can grab a headline - they must get hundreds of emails to wade through; also did you manage to get any pictures of the car before they moved it?

It was totally harsh I feel

Now with the land owner, I found out yesterday that the land owner sold the land the exact same date as when LBS started dissolving their company, now I think that is a tad odd! Oh and the land owner actually owned a company as a front that now I can not track down, not got a website or anything and I only got the name of the company. Wish I knew of a way to find out who owns the company!

I have loads and loads of pictures of the car but none from that night doh!

I will be sending another email to the nationals as I will not give up!

The company that you say the land owner used as a front. Is that still in existence or has it too been dissolved? If it is a limited company and you have the correct name then the place to start searching is Companies House. If the company still exists you can find out who the directors are (but unfortunately not where they live).

That's what I am trying to find out, if it is still running or being dissolved as we speak fella.

[Bella Smallville]

And yes people the insurance company knew about everything that was done to the car, I am not one of these people that do loads of things to the car yet tell the insurance company it's totally standard like loads of people do who I know does

[Bella Smallville]

jonno990 said:

Out of interest OP Did you tell your insurance company that you where using your car for delivering fast food? I only ask because near me the police have taken to parking up outside such places and 'pulling' drivers and impounding their car's.
p.s. hope you get the alfa back tts

We're actually covered third party via Domino's own insurance for their drivers, but you have to be over 21 to drive for them!!