Given the finger by a traffic warden...
Discussion
deltafox said:
...Otherwise its just beurocratic b ks
Can spelling mistakes be pointed out - or do they need to be obstructing or interfering with meaning?
Can syntax and grammatical errors be pointed out - or do they need to obstruct or interfere with meaning?
So he cant spell, so he hit the wrong key, big deal, we all have faults,what are yours?
Instead of picking on a minor spelling mistake its surely more important to question the stance taken....or is spelling more important than the message being conveyed these days???
Unless of course that spelling mistake is a possible get out clause on a nip or parking ticket eh!
7db said:
...Otherwise its just beurocratic b
Can spelling mistakes be pointed out - or do they need to be obstructing or interfering with meaning?
Whatever floats your boat, I am not going to lose any sleep over it
Maybe coming up with a constructive comment instead of nitpicking might be a more worthwhile cause
kenp said:
...Otherwise its just beurocratic b
Can spelling mistakes be pointed out - or do they need to be obstructing or interfering with meaning?
Can syntax and grammatical errors be pointed out - or do they need to obstruct or interfere with meaning?
Syntactical. Perhaps irony is wasted on PH posters.
The original poster sounds unpleasant to me. I don't think a lot more of the traffic warden.
7db said:
...Otherwise its just beurocratic b
Can spelling mistakes be pointed out - or do they need to be obstructing or interfering with meaning?
Can syntax and grammatical errors be pointed out - or do they need to obstruct or interfere with meaning?
Syntactical. Perhaps irony is wasted on PH posters.
The original poster sounds unpleasant to me. I don't think a lot more of the traffic warden.
Well if we are all so below you, why are you wasting your time here?
kenp said:
Fair enough, I can't argue with that. The thing is that you are venting your anger on a council employee rather than those responsible for the things that you complain of.
The guy has got himself a legitimate job. The council tells him to enforce council regulations (just as the police used to until recently) and you come along and give him abuse. They pay him a pitance, certainly not enough to take such stick over doing his job. In fact it probably doesn't take that much to push him over the top, because he is not so attached to the job. That is why, if it had been me you would have got more than the finger.
Judging from your comments on another thread I did suspect you may be of the traffic warden ilk
What they pay him is irrelevant, he is employed to do the job professionally which entails dealing with irrate members of the public as a matter of course.
In this instance he failed and his incompetence should be reported.
Seems to me your beef is really with the local authority. Surely if you get together with the local residents and give the Council 28 days to change the system and remove the parking restriction or you will collevtively withdraw their income. In addition it is possible for local parishes to remove themselves from Metropolitain boroughs if that is the consensus wish of the residents. This means the Borough lose all the income including the bit from central government.
In dealing with local Gestapo it is usually far more effective to tell them you are attacking the issues at a level somewhat above their operational sphere of influence and request their identification for your records. Its usually more effective than scaring the shit out of them.
In dealing with local Gestapo it is usually far more effective to tell them you are attacking the issues at a level somewhat above their operational sphere of influence and request their identification for your records. Its usually more effective than scaring the shit out of them.
Did he finish writing the ticket?
Hand it to you?
Stick it on your car?
If No - you won. Infringement invalid because of later two unless you are in London.
If Yes - he won unless you take it on appeal on the grounds that others were not similarly dealt with. You may wish at the same time to consider mentioning his actions but bear in mind there are two sides to a story. Just wonder what he could put in his report?????
Revise Highyway Code on yellow lines.
dvd
Hand it to you?
Stick it on your car?
If No - you won. Infringement invalid because of later two unless you are in London.
If Yes - he won unless you take it on appeal on the grounds that others were not similarly dealt with. You may wish at the same time to consider mentioning his actions but bear in mind there are two sides to a story. Just wonder what he could put in his report?????
Revise Highyway Code on yellow lines.
dvd
Since the traffic warden work was outsourced there is a whole army of people earning their living at others misfortune. In fact the money from this scam is now so good the companies and council rely on it as good income, despite only a tiny percentage coming from what traffic wardens should be for - keeping traffic moving.
In fact London traffic wardens are just another reason why I never go to london, the train is too diffucult and I do not want a ticket. Many innocent people get parking tickets - there was an eye opening undercover programme about it. Secondly I don't want to pay a fine as I don;t want my full credit card details to be rifled through when the operating company chucks huge lists of them out the back of their premises so any Tom, Dick or thief can use them.
Reading I'm sure is the same - but you have a problem, you need to park where you live! There are therefore several courses open to you, you can:
1) Find the actual vote/legal council document that specifies where the yellow line should be in the road(s) in question. Is it in the right place?
2) Is it a legal double yellow? A legal double is defined in the highway code and has to be closed at both ends, without breaks.
3) In theory a yellow paint road marking may become somewhat obscured. If for instance you have block paving or there was a spillage of some quick drying matt black paint they may become invisible and therefore non enforceable.
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
In fact London traffic wardens are just another reason why I never go to london, the train is too diffucult and I do not want a ticket. Many innocent people get parking tickets - there was an eye opening undercover programme about it. Secondly I don't want to pay a fine as I don;t want my full credit card details to be rifled through when the operating company chucks huge lists of them out the back of their premises so any Tom, Dick or thief can use them.
Reading I'm sure is the same - but you have a problem, you need to park where you live! There are therefore several courses open to you, you can:
1) Find the actual vote/legal council document that specifies where the yellow line should be in the road(s) in question. Is it in the right place?
2) Is it a legal double yellow? A legal double is defined in the highway code and has to be closed at both ends, without breaks.
3) In theory a yellow paint road marking may become somewhat obscured. If for instance you have block paving or there was a spillage of some quick drying matt black paint they may become invisible and therefore non enforceable.
Don't let the bastards grind you down!
deeps said:
Fair enough, I can't argue with that. The thing is that you are venting your anger on a council employee rather than those responsible for the things that you complain of.
The guy has got himself a legitimate job. The council tells him to enforce council regulations (just as the police used to until recently) and you come along and give him abuse. They pay him a pitance, certainly not enough to take such stick over doing his job. In fact it probably doesn't take that much to push him over the top, because he is not so attached to the job. That is why, if it had been me you would have got more than the finger.
Judging from your comments on another thread I did suspect you may be of the traffic warden ilk
What they pay him is irrelevant, he is employed to do the job professionally which entails dealing with irrate members of the public as a matter of course.
In this instance he failed and his incompetence should be reported.
Traffic warden ilk? Nothing could be further from the truth.
My point is that the poster is nothing but a bully. He admittedly parks on a double yellow and then gives a the public servant a load of abuse and then is outraged when he gets as good as he gives. He wouldn't have done that with a policeman (who is also supposed to deal benevolently with irrate punters), but he felt he could do it with a traffic warden.
kenp said:A TW of the traditional kind is a government functionary, the government is bullying motorists, this kind of response is also to a bully via its functionary. Other traffic wardens in privatised schemes could be seen as bullies by proxy
My point is that the poster is nothing but a bully. He admittedly parks on a double yellow and then gives a the public servant a load of abuse and then is outraged when he gets as good as he gives. He wouldn't have done that with a policeman (who is also supposed to deal benevolently with irrate punters), but he felt he could do it with a traffic warden.
Woooahhhhh everyone!
I never 'abused' the parking attendant - I merely pointed out he should get a life instead of being out and about at 7.45am and then pointed out that I thought he would have no friends, due to his profession.
To fill in a few more details, in my parking zone we have 54 spaces for 87 cars. A lot of those spaces are in a road with no houses which is on a route frequented by the less desirable members of society. I've had a few lucky escapes (car opposite mine burnt out) and my neighbours have all had trouble there. This road is not a an option, and its out of sight and sound (we pay for a garage for the S2000!).
Hence everyone parks on double yellows, and it's even tolerated. Some parking attendants have admitted to us they will not ticket cars on double yellows if they have a valid residents permit.
I did escape the ticket - he walked off
The double yellow is in extremely poor condition anyway, and an appeal would have good chances. The double yellow even encroaches in to the parking bay!
He's even been down our street again today - and ignored vehicles on the double yellows - at around 10am.
I never 'abused' the parking attendant - I merely pointed out he should get a life instead of being out and about at 7.45am and then pointed out that I thought he would have no friends, due to his profession.
To fill in a few more details, in my parking zone we have 54 spaces for 87 cars. A lot of those spaces are in a road with no houses which is on a route frequented by the less desirable members of society. I've had a few lucky escapes (car opposite mine burnt out) and my neighbours have all had trouble there. This road is not a an option, and its out of sight and sound (we pay for a garage for the S2000!).
Hence everyone parks on double yellows, and it's even tolerated. Some parking attendants have admitted to us they will not ticket cars on double yellows if they have a valid residents permit.
I did escape the ticket - he walked off
The double yellow is in extremely poor condition anyway, and an appeal would have good chances. The double yellow even encroaches in to the parking bay! He's even been down our street again today - and ignored vehicles on the double yellows - at around 10am.
turbobloke said:
My point is that the poster is nothing but a bully. He admittedly parks on a double yellow and then gives a the public servant a load of abuse and then is outraged when he gets as good as he gives. He wouldn't have done that with a policeman (who is also supposed to deal benevolently with irrate punters), but he felt he could do it with a traffic warden.
Of course you are right. Policemen, Custom Officers, Judges all are government functionary and by extension bullies. Roll on anarchy.
There was an unfortunate story in my local rag where the traffic warden got run over and the car then reversed over him for good measure! Main road and street full of people, guess how many witnesses? NONE!!
No one likes em, fact!! They are just another tool used by wasteful and useless local authorities to raise more money. Their job has nothing to do with traffic. I personally have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
No one likes em, fact!! They are just another tool used by wasteful and useless local authorities to raise more money. Their job has nothing to do with traffic. I personally have no sympathy for them whatsoever.
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