Caught speeding - 125mph on A2 Kent!!!! Hellllp
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I feel really sorry for the OP, he is obviously not of sound mind! Without thinking of the consequences he breaks the speed limit by a huge margin, and (because of unsound mind) he can't think straight and considers he can lie about his income. He also expects sympathy from all around. Just pleading insanity is his best move 
JacquesMesrine said:
He's declared his PAYE status, his limited opportunity for holiday and the speed with which people up the line would dismiss him. He's not a one man band looking to grow his business or act as part of a larger network. If he were then a ban wouldn't end his career, rather it would be a minor inconvenience.
Didn't see that, but he still could be approved and earn just £55000kiethton said:
Plan to, just need to see what precautions I can take to limit the impact/minimise the fine...we all know it's a load of b
ks anyway...if The basic assumption is £440 and I actually earn double its easier to let them roll with what they have. In the meantime I can get my salary paid elsewhere/take responsibility for commitments I don't normally have my weekly income number will equate to a fine lower than it would normally. Managed to get off the last instance with a pretty small bribe, shame it couldn't be done this time eh'
Only thing that pisses me off is that today they decided to give me a S59 in addition, why?, because when I was pulled out on I ended up a little too close behind a moron that couldn't use their mirrors- need to work out how I appeal this as I don't accept it on reflection, thing is I can't see a way to do this - I am going to put a private plate on the car so I don't have the marker pinging up though...
Long and short of it is although I clocked the car it was obviously too late, I have enough st to put up with, I'm capable of driving far faster as is the car, being banned for longer than a week or at a push 2 is no go, I can't get to work without a motorbike so couldn't pay bills that'd be far worse for the economy eh'
Out of interest are the summons letters sent signed for - as I currently don't live anywhere fixed its going to my parents, can they just turn it away so it 6m times out?
You are an idiot admitting to that kind of thing publicly. How a bank/asset management firm decided to employ you is beyond me. You have your first name and job title on your profile. To help save you from your own idiocy i would suggest removing one of them sharpish.ks anyway...if The basic assumption is £440 and I actually earn double its easier to let them roll with what they have. In the meantime I can get my salary paid elsewhere/take responsibility for commitments I don't normally have my weekly income number will equate to a fine lower than it would normally. Managed to get off the last instance with a pretty small bribe, shame it couldn't be done this time eh'Only thing that pisses me off is that today they decided to give me a S59 in addition, why?, because when I was pulled out on I ended up a little too close behind a moron that couldn't use their mirrors- need to work out how I appeal this as I don't accept it on reflection, thing is I can't see a way to do this - I am going to put a private plate on the car so I don't have the marker pinging up though...
Long and short of it is although I clocked the car it was obviously too late, I have enough s
t to put up with, I'm capable of driving far faster as is the car, being banned for longer than a week or at a push 2 is no go, I can't get to work without a motorbike so couldn't pay bills that'd be far worse for the economy eh'Out of interest are the summons letters sent signed for - as I currently don't live anywhere fixed its going to my parents, can they just turn it away so it 6m times out?
He did 109mph in a 70 limit on a dry day with light traffic.
Big deal.
The only thing that makes that notable is the 70mph limit. Which is fairly pedestrian.
However, I think we should bring back hanging and then sentence him to death.
Would that make some of the self-righteous on here feel better?
Big deal.
The only thing that makes that notable is the 70mph limit. Which is fairly pedestrian.
However, I think we should bring back hanging and then sentence him to death.
Would that make some of the self-righteous on here feel better?
cmaguire said:
He did 109mph in a 70 limit on a dry day with light traffic.
Big deal.
The only thing that makes that notable is the 70mph limit. Which is fairly pedestrian.
However, I think we should bring back hanging and then sentence him to death.
Would that make some of the self-righteous on here feel better?
As he will skin find out: it is a big deal in the laws eyes. Big deal.
The only thing that makes that notable is the 70mph limit. Which is fairly pedestrian.
However, I think we should bring back hanging and then sentence him to death.
Would that make some of the self-righteous on here feel better?
Already said previous posts from yesterday were done in fraustration, given the pedantry of exceeding a specified number.
I'll not elaborate further on my salary, needless to say as previous I'm not particularly old or experienced so won't be earning mega sums, but still have the horrendous costs of living, why else would I commute on a motorbike/have an old 5 series?
I'll sit back and see what drops through the letterbox, if it does, and will prepare any mitigation then with a view to minimising the potential impact, seeing professional advice if prudent to do so as I'm sure most others would. I've said before, it was a momentary slip-up for which I'll likely have a large-ish fine and some points/short ban, they're the breaks eh'
To answer some points re me and ability, I've done post-test driving quilalifications, do a large amount of driving abroad (inc. Germany), track days and have a currently clean license, only thing within the past is a SP50 for 78 on the motorway in 2010. The car had a clean MOT last week, is impeccably maintained and has new pilot sports all-round, coupled with a quiet, dry motorway I'm sure the crime doesn't fit the punishment.
I'll not elaborate further on my salary, needless to say as previous I'm not particularly old or experienced so won't be earning mega sums, but still have the horrendous costs of living, why else would I commute on a motorbike/have an old 5 series?
I'll sit back and see what drops through the letterbox, if it does, and will prepare any mitigation then with a view to minimising the potential impact, seeing professional advice if prudent to do so as I'm sure most others would. I've said before, it was a momentary slip-up for which I'll likely have a large-ish fine and some points/short ban, they're the breaks eh'
To answer some points re me and ability, I've done post-test driving quilalifications, do a large amount of driving abroad (inc. Germany), track days and have a currently clean license, only thing within the past is a SP50 for 78 on the motorway in 2010. The car had a clean MOT last week, is impeccably maintained and has new pilot sports all-round, coupled with a quiet, dry motorway I'm sure the crime doesn't fit the punishment.
cmaguire said:
He did 109mph in a 70 limit on a dry day with light traffic.
Big deal.
The only thing that makes that notable is the 70mph limit. Which is fairly pedestrian.
However, I think we should bring back hanging and then sentence him to death.
Would that make some of the self-righteous on here feel better?
You need to go back to school. Many disagree with certain laws and the penalties applied. I'm sure Adam Johnson is unhappy that a bird who was gagging for it has resulted in him losing his job and facing jail. Reality is that laws and society dictate what is and isn't acceptable.Big deal.
The only thing that makes that notable is the 70mph limit. Which is fairly pedestrian.
However, I think we should bring back hanging and then sentence him to death.
Would that make some of the self-righteous on here feel better?
109mph on a quiet road and nailing a 15 year old are against the law. Ironically one is closer to being legally acceptable than the other.
Hint - it's not speeding.
kiethton said:
Already said previous posts from yesterday were done in fraustration, given the pedantry of exceeding a specified number.
I'll not elaborate further on my salary, needless to say as previous I'm not particularly old or experienced so won't be earning mega sums, but still have the horrendous costs of living, why else would I commute on a motorbike/have an old 5 series?
I'll sit back and see what drops through the letterbox, if it does, and will prepare any mitigation then with a view to minimising the potential impact, seeing professional advice if prudent to do so as I'm sure most others would. I've said before, it was a momentary slip-up for which I'll likely have a large-ish fine and some points/short ban, they're the breaks eh'
To answer some points re me and ability, I've done post-test driving quilalifications, do a large amount of driving abroad (inc. Germany), track days and have a currently clean license, only thing within the past is a SP50 for 78 on the motorway in 2010. The car had a clean MOT last week, is impeccably maintained and has new pilot sports all-round, coupled with a quiet, dry motorway I'm sure the crime doesn't fit the punishment.
So you're complaining about your financial situation but do a large amount of trackdays?I'll not elaborate further on my salary, needless to say as previous I'm not particularly old or experienced so won't be earning mega sums, but still have the horrendous costs of living, why else would I commute on a motorbike/have an old 5 series?
I'll sit back and see what drops through the letterbox, if it does, and will prepare any mitigation then with a view to minimising the potential impact, seeing professional advice if prudent to do so as I'm sure most others would. I've said before, it was a momentary slip-up for which I'll likely have a large-ish fine and some points/short ban, they're the breaks eh'
To answer some points re me and ability, I've done post-test driving quilalifications, do a large amount of driving abroad (inc. Germany), track days and have a currently clean license, only thing within the past is a SP50 for 78 on the motorway in 2010. The car had a clean MOT last week, is impeccably maintained and has new pilot sports all-round, coupled with a quiet, dry motorway I'm sure the crime doesn't fit the punishment.
What profession are you in again?
Also: you claim to be a hugely capable and highly skilled driver but you didn't know you were doing over 100mph...which is it? You're contradicting yourself all over the place.
JacquesMesrine said:
You need to go back to school. Many disagree with certain laws and the penalties applied. I'm sure Adam Johnson is unhappy that a bird who was gagging for it has resulted in him losing his job and facing jail. Reality is that laws and society dictate what is and isn't acceptable.
109mph on a quiet road and nailing a 15 year old are against the law. Ironically one is closer to being legally acceptable than the other.
Hint - it's not speeding.
Do you enjoy patronising people?109mph on a quiet road and nailing a 15 year old are against the law. Ironically one is closer to being legally acceptable than the other.
Hint - it's not speeding.
Exceeding the 70 limit and inappropriate behaviour with someone below the age of consent.
Yeah, I see the similarity.
Do you object to the 109 because it is 109, or because it is more than 70?
cmaguire said:
Do you enjoy patronising people?
Exceeding the 70 limit and inappropriate behaviour with someone below the age of consent.
Yeah, I see the similarity.
Do you object to the 109 because it is 109, or because it is more than 70?
The drivers statements are contradictory.Exceeding the 70 limit and inappropriate behaviour with someone below the age of consent.
Yeah, I see the similarity.
Do you object to the 109 because it is 109, or because it is more than 70?
He was crusing @ 90mph, so knew the car was already going 20mph over the limit.
Then he manually accelerated by another 19mph @ 90 my experience is some roads policing teams will happily issue a ticket over 85 was the latest I was told..
So he knew what he was doing, the Dacia comment seems a red herring. Is this why French cars have speed limiters incase you can't be trusted to read the dials and think you are of pc Milton type and might get over excited?
The Dacia comment - I've spent the majority of my time this year to date driving a Dacia 0.9 (abroad), clocking up 8k km in the 3 weeks I had it, returning a few weeks ago. Bear in mind I only do about 3k miles per year in the car, about 100 since I got back so am not fully used to it again.
My point was that I had been cruising on the CC, yes above the limit but not hugely so, came up behind another car so slowed, when carrying on I accelerated rather than press resume, yes I knew I was going a little fast but thought in reality that I was a good 10mph lower than the speed alleged.
My point was that I had been cruising on the CC, yes above the limit but not hugely so, came up behind another car so slowed, when carrying on I accelerated rather than press resume, yes I knew I was going a little fast but thought in reality that I was a good 10mph lower than the speed alleged.
surveyor_101 said:
The drivers statements are contradictory.
He was crusing @ 90mph, so knew the car was already going 20mph over the limit.
Then he manually accelerated by another 19mph @ 90 my experience is some roads policing teams will happily issue a ticket over 85 was the latest I was told..
So he knew what he was doing, the Dacia comment seems a red herring. Is this why French cars have speed limiters incase you can't be trusted to read the dials and think you are of pc Milton type and might get over excited?
I seem to remember him saying the cruise control was set at 90. If that is speedo based the road speed would likely be low 80's. Whether he is happy cruising at 90 or low 80's is of no great concern to me.He was crusing @ 90mph, so knew the car was already going 20mph over the limit.
Then he manually accelerated by another 19mph @ 90 my experience is some roads policing teams will happily issue a ticket over 85 was the latest I was told..
So he knew what he was doing, the Dacia comment seems a red herring. Is this why French cars have speed limiters incase you can't be trusted to read the dials and think you are of pc Milton type and might get over excited?
I think the guaranteed self-righteous patronising nonsense greeting any excess speed related post has a habit of making the offenders trot out spurious mitigating circumstances and excuses that they perhaps wouldn't otherwise.
If it were me I would just say I was caught doing 120 in a 70 (for example), don't see it as that big a deal, and then proceed to ask whatever question I intended to. And just put up with the predictable "Law is the Law" crap, hoping it didn't derail the thread completely.
If we were dealing with kiddie-fiddlers then it wouldn't seem unreasonable for all and sundry to stick the boot in. But speeding? If you don't wish to 'help' the poster because you take issue with his 'crime' then don't post.
cmaguire said:
I seem to remember him saying the cruise control was set at 90. If that is speedo based the road speed would likely be low 80's. Whether he is happy cruising at 90 or low 80's is of no great concern to me.
I think the guaranteed self-righteous patronising nonsense greeting any excess speed related post has a habit of making the offenders trot out spurious mitigating circumstances and excuses that they perhaps wouldn't otherwise.
If it were me I would just say I was caught doing 120 in a 70 (for example), don't see it as that big a deal, and then proceed to ask whatever question I intended to. And just put up with the predictable "Law is the Law" crap, hoping it didn't derail the thread completely.
If we were dealing with kiddie-fiddlers then it wouldn't seem unreasonable for all and sundry to stick the boot in. But speeding? If you don't wish to 'help' the poster because you take issue with his 'crime' then don't post.
I think quite a few are "putting the boot in" not because of the speed limit but because of all the excuses and contradicting facts the OP is making up. Saying he's a good driver, yet he didn't know he was 39mph over the speed limit (which probably would have been more like an indicated 50mph over it). Fair enough if you think the situation is ok to go over and then accept responsibility, but to not know but still be a great driver doesn't match up too well. Then he's obviously got a reasonable income in terms of moving house, bike, car etc., yet claims to not be able to pay the fine easily so is moving money from one month's pay slip to the next so he reduces the fine. Life is about responsibility and accepting the consequences of actions if you choose to break them. The OP is trying to avoid doing that. I know I speed, and if I get a ticket then it is deserved no matter what I think the conditions may call for. However that's completely my fault when it happens. I chose to ignore the limit. Not to mention the fines over here make the UK ones look like pocket money. Still my responsibility to pay it properly.I think the guaranteed self-righteous patronising nonsense greeting any excess speed related post has a habit of making the offenders trot out spurious mitigating circumstances and excuses that they perhaps wouldn't otherwise.
If it were me I would just say I was caught doing 120 in a 70 (for example), don't see it as that big a deal, and then proceed to ask whatever question I intended to. And just put up with the predictable "Law is the Law" crap, hoping it didn't derail the thread completely.
If we were dealing with kiddie-fiddlers then it wouldn't seem unreasonable for all and sundry to stick the boot in. But speeding? If you don't wish to 'help' the poster because you take issue with his 'crime' then don't post.
NRS said:
I think quite a few are "putting the boot in" not because of the speed limit but because of all the excuses and contradicting facts the OP is making up. Saying he's a good driver, yet he didn't know he was 39mph over the speed limit (which probably would have been more like an indicated 50mph over it). Fair enough if you think the situation is ok to go over and then accept responsibility, but to not know but still be a great driver doesn't match up too well. Then he's obviously got a reasonable income in terms of moving house, bike, car etc., yet claims to not be able to pay the fine easily so is moving money from one month's pay slip to the next so he reduces the fine. Life is about responsibility and accepting the consequences of actions if you choose to break them. The OP is trying to avoid doing that. I know I speed, and if I get a ticket then it is deserved no matter what I think the conditions may call for. However that's completely my fault when it happens. I chose to ignore the limit. Not to mention the fines over here make the UK ones look like pocket money. Still my responsibility to pay it properly.
I agree that some of the spurious guff he's posted has given some plenty of ammo to have a dig, but most of them would be desperate to stick the boot in anyway. He's just given them a leg-up.As regards your post I would take issue with the acceptance that if you exceed the speed limit you deserve the ticket. I think most people try to stick to the limits that they can appreciate are justified, such as those in urban areas. Whereas a significant minority struggle to respect the limits that are harder to justify (70 limits are an obvious example, but daft 20's, 40's and 50's also fall into this category). If you felt the 70 (or whatever the NSL where you are is) was justified then you would probably be close enough to it to avoid ever getting a ticket in the first place.
So you may well expect to get a ticket if you are caught, but I doubt that you think you deserve it.
I certainly don't.
cmaguire said:
JacquesMesrine said:
You need to go back to school. Many disagree with certain laws and the penalties applied. I'm sure Adam Johnson is unhappy that a bird who was gagging for it has resulted in him losing his job and facing jail. Reality is that laws and society dictate what is and isn't acceptable.
109mph on a quiet road and nailing a 15 year old are against the law. Ironically one is closer to being legally acceptable than the other.
Hint - it's not speeding.
Do you enjoy patronising people?109mph on a quiet road and nailing a 15 year old are against the law. Ironically one is closer to being legally acceptable than the other.
Hint - it's not speeding.
Exceeding the 70 limit and inappropriate behaviour with someone below the age of consent.
Yeah, I see the similarity.
Do you object to the 109 because it is 109, or because it is more than 70?
I don't care about speeding, I speed all day long, everywhere I drive, but I rarely take the piss by being 50% over the limit.
I also have a healthy sex life and mess about a lot, but I don't go for underage girls, as that is just wrong IMO. There are others who think an underage girl at 15 is a far safer bet than driving down the motorway at 109mph.
So what makes your opinion right and the paedos wrong?
Edited by JacquesMesrine on Tuesday 16th February 06:09
I would feel I deserve it as I knew the limits and chose to break them, no matter what the reasoning. I may not like it, but the rules are clearly outlined.
If you think it's bad in the UK then feel sorry for us! The highest speed limit is 56mph for a good few hours drive in any direction from here! At that much speed over the limit he would have a fine of over £800, lost his licence and probably be facing a minimum of 18 days in jail (mandatory). The OP would certainly be in jail at the equivalent % of 125mph.
If you think it's bad in the UK then feel sorry for us! The highest speed limit is 56mph for a good few hours drive in any direction from here! At that much speed over the limit he would have a fine of over £800, lost his licence and probably be facing a minimum of 18 days in jail (mandatory). The OP would certainly be in jail at the equivalent % of 125mph.
Edited by NRS on Monday 15th February 22:35
kiethton said:
but still have the horrendous costs of living,
Welcome to the real world. We all have to pay for the cost of living.cmaguire said:
I seem to remember him saying the cruise control was set at 90. If that is speedo based the road speed would likely be low 80's.
Why do people continually trot out this rubbish. Cable driven speeds disappeared a long time ago.JacquesMesrine said:
I don't think you do see the similarity. Both are illegal, both are well signposted as illegal, both are not that great in the eyes of the majority of the public.
I don't care about speeding, I speed all day long, everywhere I drove, but I rarely take the piss by being 50% over the limit.
I also have a healthy sex life and mess about a lot, but I don't go for underage girls, as that is hpjust wrong IMO. There are many other sbpwho think an underage girl at 15 is a far safer get than was I g down the motorway at 109mph.
So what makes your opinion right and the paedos wrong?
So how far do you have to go with underage girls before it is taking the piss?I don't care about speeding, I speed all day long, everywhere I drove, but I rarely take the piss by being 50% over the limit.
I also have a healthy sex life and mess about a lot, but I don't go for underage girls, as that is hpjust wrong IMO. There are many other sbpwho think an underage girl at 15 is a far safer get than was I g down the motorway at 109mph.
So what makes your opinion right and the paedos wrong?
Pinch on the bum?
Hand up the dress?
Or up the skirt?
How does messing about with underage girls have any relevance to speeding?
Oh yeah. The Law is the Law. I get it.
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