A political message.....for all to read..
Discussion
Streetcop said:
In future, I, Street , will continue to post messages and threads on here, but will tone down the content.
There are political movements and wranglings in the 'police service' at present time and officers 'talking out of line' might find themselves in hot water. Not something that I wish to find myself in, with 19 years left to retirement and the trafpol job of boys' dreams....
Can fully understand where you are coming from - maybe you need a second ID for when you feel the "urge".
One thing does interest me thou - on other posts you have been quiet vocal on "nothing to hide nothing to fear" when talking about civil liberties.
I am not aware of any of your posts breaking any laws so I wonder why you feel you have something to hide?
Is it because you can know see how an all seeing government can abuse the knowledge it obtains?
Forget all the personal bickering-the fella should be entitled to his point of view when not working-just like the rest of us-without being threatened with the sack.
I only joined this forum because of the honest opinions expressed when I needed to find out what that strange purple light thingy was that winked at me in Northampton!!
(ok you lot know them as Truvelos-but there's not many of them in G.Manchester)
I only joined this forum because of the honest opinions expressed when I needed to find out what that strange purple light thingy was that winked at me in Northampton!!
(ok you lot know them as Truvelos-but there's not many of them in G.Manchester)
Thanks Skintblue for the words....
The problem with the police services nowadays is that you must appear to be morally higher than the clergy...24 hours a day...
I know of a Bobby who told a racist joke whilst in a public house, off duty, driking alcohol. Someone nearby overheard the conversation and knowing the man was a BiB, reported the matter the next day to the Professional Standards Dept of the local police force.
The BiB was suspended while the occupants of the pub were interviewed. The BiB eventually resigned over the incident.....
Not many other occupation are under the same kind of scrutiny....rightly or wrongly..
Street
incidentally, the joke was about an Irish road mender
The problem with the police services nowadays is that you must appear to be morally higher than the clergy...24 hours a day...
I know of a Bobby who told a racist joke whilst in a public house, off duty, driking alcohol. Someone nearby overheard the conversation and knowing the man was a BiB, reported the matter the next day to the Professional Standards Dept of the local police force.
The BiB was suspended while the occupants of the pub were interviewed. The BiB eventually resigned over the incident.....
Not many other occupation are under the same kind of scrutiny....rightly or wrongly..
Street
incidentally, the joke was about an Irish road mender
You know you want to tell it to us, and if you don't someone else will! 
I don't know it....I really don't....
Ooooh...go on then...
There's an Irish road mender, a nun and Saddam Hussein in a bar in Cork, poiru igfneiu dign dki nditondk. trihe die d dis eehikdn, hdietld id theind!kdhidt dkdis d ene ind dhub det d eksubbge dguinkbek, bejid, dnodignde
Weli tidnb ths tidnsiel thidn digng sougjh hyou odor oed ktes kd todne thoosidk di yp nr tpyj yoyly fliifiud tuoinf...
Street
Ooooh...go on then...
There's an Irish road mender, a nun and Saddam Hussein in a bar in Cork, poiru igfneiu dign dki nditondk. trihe die d dis eehikdn, hdietld id theind!kdhidt dkdis d ene ind dhub det d eksubbge dguinkbek, bejid, dnodignde
Weli tidnb ths tidnsiel thidn digng sougjh hyou odor oed ktes kd todne thoosidk di yp nr tpyj yoyly fliifiud tuoinf... Street
Fat Audi 80 said:
Thats great news. I for one am tired of your "know it all" posts.
FFS, being a copper is just a job. Why do some of you think it's any more impressive than being a plumber? It isn't and you earn far less dough than plumber anyway.
Very constructive well done.
Don't you think he deserves some respect for protection your sorry ass....
(When was the last time a plumber was attacked with a knife?)
Steve.
Liebchen...
Um - will admit to wanting to claw the plumber when he presented me with whopping bill for very little work.
That funny sucking noise they make? That is their cash register brain as to how much they can fleece you for whirring.
And the funny sound you hear when you drive past the ticket processing bases ...... the same hot air
********* about scams being bestest und toppest thing since sliced bread machine was invented..... As for Strassen
and me - we have crunched a few times ....of course - we will disagree on odd issues - but on aggregate - we probably agree on many topics. But as my husband pointed out in earlier post - we did clash over my allusion to Stasis in this country and fact we are not as "free" as we think - and that situation really does like getting worse as more political correctness and thought control appears to be viewed as "normal"
Streetcop said:
Thanks Skintblue for the words....
The problem with the police services nowadays is that you must appear to be morally higher than the clergy...24 hours a day...
Liebchen - you are "ambassador of the LAW" and I am supposed to respect you at all times whether on or off duty.
But the same applies to all professions to certain extent. We have to declare any past incidents on application forms - and I have been well scrutinised because of how I earn my crust - dealing with chemicals ..etc.
It will not do for any professional whatever they do to be discovered doing something "unprofessional" or "illegal".
Streetcop said:
I know of a Bobby who told a racist joke whilst in a public house, off duty, driking alcohol. Someone nearby overheard the conversation and knowing the man was a BiB, reported the matter the next day to the Professional Standards Dept of the local police force.
The BiB was suspended while the occupants of the pub were interviewed. The BiB eventually resigned over the incident.....
Not many other occupation are under the same kind of scrutiny....rightly or wrongly..
Street
incidentally, the joke was about an Irish road mender
Think this is result of the Steven Lawrence case amongst others. From what I hear/have read in press this is sensitive topic - and police are still reeling from the aftershocks of this.
But I do know of a girl (years ago in this country) who worked as clerk in a Housing Agency Office. She referred to a Pakistani in shortened form - ie missing the last two syllables - see I am being PC
) who had applied for some benefit or other. She did not say this in front of the gentleman but had simply asked a colleague where she had put the form filled in by the Paki-(stani). Or that is story she told us.... Well - anyway she got sacked for making "racist remark"
With current bench book rules though - not long before someone gets sack for referring to woman as "she" and not "they", and for "nitpicking" over using the words "common sense" and "brainstorming" for ideas.....
gone said:
His line of work brings him into the realms of being a professional regarding law and motor vehicles. Something of which many on this site appear to believe they themselves are experts because they have worked hard and earnt a few quid to pay for expensive toys which they routinely drive badly because 'they think they know' and have done a few laps around a track.
Und Liebchen - you are a true expert on driving to unexploded doughnuts
Of course there is biggest difference in driving around a circuit and driving on the roads ....
Suspect that majority on this site actually drive well on aggregate because they have taken time and trouble to actually read "RoadCraft", gone on courses etc etc.
As you know I have spoken my mind when you all defended jeffrey archer's (not seen him for while?) posting of that set of pictures which appeared to show police car speeding unnecessarily towards blind bend and brow of hill (too hazards on one) at scary speed. (Know and admit that the still picture there does not give whole story - but you can argue the same of the scam one if that is so) - and you know I gave you some stick (and still scratch you gently a bit) over the speeding at 105mph down hard shoulder because "you are trained and highly skilled person and can handle it!" Do not doubt so - but does not matter how skilled you are when you go over debris at that speed - und hard shoulders are full of this.
And you know I scour the papers for serious BiB bashing articles which I do post here to give you chance of answering back - and not plain bashing you on the head with the paper in question.
But it is important for all of us to speak our minds and be aware of all sides of the arguments.
Would be a very boring world though if we all agreed.
BiB are being hauled over the coals for simple things like...
"Sarge...what's the manpower like for tonights burglar catching operation?"
When he should have said 'Staffing level'...
Absolutely true..
Now I'm a tax payer too and I don't think that sort of policing is what I pay for..
Street
"Sarge...what's the manpower like for tonights burglar catching operation?"
When he should have said 'Staffing level'...
Absolutely true..
Now I'm a tax payer too and I don't think that sort of policing is what I pay for..
Street
To wade into the fray somewhat.
Yes, as serving Police officers we cannot advocate any blatant political, racial, or bigoted viewpoints.
I tend to leave my 'hat' at work, but am concious that anything blatantly offensive to anyone will be deemed unnacceptable.
We are, after all, on duty 24 hours a day, and although I do tend to give my personal opinion on many things,some which possibly would raise the odd eyebrow from some in the Police service, I will never be openly anti establishment. If I was, I should not be a Police officer.
If I were to be 'faceless' on here then my opinions would be very similar, maybe more vocal, but nevertheless I think it is important to give an opinon as befits the discussion.
As to an earlier comment that being a Policeman is 'just a job' like a plumber. Yes, it is and No, it most definately isn't. Not being a plumber I can't comment on the diversity, excitement and feeling of satisfaction it gives but I took a hell of a wage drop to be a Police Officer, and I take a great deal of pride in it. Money is very important, after all it pays the mortgage, but not so important that it is the all encompassing thing.
If you have never been in the 'job' it will be hard to understand the fact that you can't make stupid 'anti' type comments on here, but you can't, it would go against everything that we stand for.
Edited for bad grammar....
>> Edited by silverback mike on Saturday 25th September 15:28
Yes, as serving Police officers we cannot advocate any blatant political, racial, or bigoted viewpoints.
I tend to leave my 'hat' at work, but am concious that anything blatantly offensive to anyone will be deemed unnacceptable.
We are, after all, on duty 24 hours a day, and although I do tend to give my personal opinion on many things,some which possibly would raise the odd eyebrow from some in the Police service, I will never be openly anti establishment. If I was, I should not be a Police officer.
If I were to be 'faceless' on here then my opinions would be very similar, maybe more vocal, but nevertheless I think it is important to give an opinon as befits the discussion.
As to an earlier comment that being a Policeman is 'just a job' like a plumber. Yes, it is and No, it most definately isn't. Not being a plumber I can't comment on the diversity, excitement and feeling of satisfaction it gives but I took a hell of a wage drop to be a Police Officer, and I take a great deal of pride in it. Money is very important, after all it pays the mortgage, but not so important that it is the all encompassing thing.
If you have never been in the 'job' it will be hard to understand the fact that you can't make stupid 'anti' type comments on here, but you can't, it would go against everything that we stand for.
Edited for bad grammar....
>> Edited by silverback mike on Saturday 25th September 15:28
silverback mike said:
To wade into the fray somewhat.
Yes, as serving Police officers we cannot advocate any blatant political, racial, or bigoted viewpoints.
Eben! Wir sind uns einig
Most professionals cannot do this either.
silverybackmike said:
I tend to leave my 'hat' at work, but am concious that anything blatantly offensive to anyone will be deemed unnacceptable.
My cousins (Durham, Mancheter, and London - plus the Mad Doc's relatives and couple of Swiss/German gendarmes in family) all say same thing - would be deemed inappropriate to condone anything illegal.
But I note that this does not seem to apply to Dick Ed when he says a very addictive drug which can kill you is "not very dangerous"...
But same applies to all professionals. We are all aware of our responsibility to keeping good relations and trying to live together. A conviction of any kind would reflect badly on our careers.
Things are little different towards one element of population due to certain goings on in world - made worse by our muppet in No 10.
It is a bit like treading on egg shells as they are so-oh sensitive.
note - I am being "politically correct"
silverybackmike said:
We are, after all, on duty 24 hours a day, and although I do tend to give my personal opinion on many things,some which possibly would raise the odd eyebrow from some in the Police service, I will never be openly anti establishment. If I was, I should not be a Police officer.
If I were to be 'faceless' on here then my opinions would be very similar, maybe more vocal, but nevertheless I think it is important to give an opinon as befits the discussion.
Ach! Herr Dick Ed will be having right old tantrum about it!
Most of us are not "anti-establishment" but in so-called free democracy - we are all entitled to give a fair opinion - and so long as we do not incite hatred, crime or anything arrestable - then opinion should be expressed for sake of debate, discussion and explaining to the lurkers like dear Aunty Mary, Dicky Ed and Steviebabes of Cumbria that a significant number of enthusiastic motorists are actually trying to suggest practical alternatives to scams - like more of you lot and training incentives......
silverybackmike said:
As to an earlier comment that being a Policeman is 'just a job' like a plumber.
Well... it is if you need to call them in emergency - like the time when I was hanging up curtains in the littlest room in the house in my younger unwiser days...... when I stood on Klo - did not put lid on it (
just married and a mere child - is my feeble excuse....). Anyway - I slipped und 
my foot went right down the bend and I was stuck..... For HOURS! Until the Mad Doc came home and we had to call the emergency services and a plumber to get me out..... and they all fell about laughing their heads off! Recently - it was daylight robbery on the boiler ...
and as for the bathroom - fitted that ourselves and probably made a much better job of it.... Certainly a lot cheaper and nothing leaks..... silverybackmike said:
Yes, it is and No, it most definately isn't. Not being a plumber I can't comment on the diversity, excitement and feeling of satisfaction it gives but I took a hell of a wage drop to be a Police Officer, and I take a great deal of pride in it. Money is very important, after all it pays the mortgage, but not so important that it is the all encompassing thing.
If you have never been in the 'job' it will be hard to understand the fact that you can't make stupid 'anti' type comments on here, but you can't, it would go against everything that we stand for.
Most of the comments I read here from you make sense, Liebchen.
I try to get message of COAST in whenever I can as it is much better safety message than the scammers give...
I've noticed on a couple of threads people have commented on something I've said claiming; "is this the new PC Streetcop?" in response to something that I've written that they don't like.
Let me make it clear...I'm not saying that I'm changing the content of my posts to be more politically correct. I've always been politically correct on here. The change in tact is more of toning down the policy and procedures of the police service and instead giving my own view and angle on things..
Thanks
Street
Let me make it clear...I'm not saying that I'm changing the content of my posts to be more politically correct. I've always been politically correct on here. The change in tact is more of toning down the policy and procedures of the police service and instead giving my own view and angle on things..
Thanks
Street
WildCat said:
...I was hanging up curtains in the littlest room in the house in my younger unwiser days...... when I stood on Klo - did not put lid on it (
Oh so that's what it means when somebody says they put their foot in it!
Best wishes all,
Dave.
What a sad day when people, no matter what job they do, are forced into practical silence because the boss has had a memo from Whitehall. It'll happen on a road near you shorly.
Whatever happened to free speech.
I have only been a member for a short while but found Street to be a fine debater. Shame it's gone.
Hope you can resume normal service soon.
because the boss has had a memo from Whitehall. It'll happen on a road near you shorly. Whatever happened to free speech.
I have only been a member for a short while but found Street to be a fine debater. Shame it's gone.
Hope you can resume normal service soon.
Street, shame you can't be as vocal as you may like to be.. but at the end of the day mortgages and families to feed are important...
Your views here are still very much appreciated, and having BIBs such youself and silver on here are what make pistonheads special and valuable..
And yeah.. it really sucks that it comes down to this..
Your views here are still very much appreciated, and having BIBs such youself and silver on here are what make pistonheads special and valuable..
And yeah.. it really sucks that it comes down to this..
Gary. Thought long and hard before posting this as i have a good deal of respect for you and your job, but this is your second post requesting a group hug!
Just post what you think or dont post at all. This is a discussion board - what`s the point if you are not giving a true picture?
Sometimes a silence will say more than words. A blank post will do the job.
Steve
Just post what you think or dont post at all. This is a discussion board - what`s the point if you are not giving a true picture?
Sometimes a silence will say more than words. A blank post will do the job.
Steve
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