Mis-spaces plate

[xjay1337]

HantsRat said:

In all seriousness:

A - A VDRS where you have 14 days to get a proper legal plate fitted, form signed and stamped by MOT station and post back to police
B - £100 fine (No points)
C - £100 fine + Referall to DVLA to have the private plate revoked - Usually used in those circumstances where they've had multiple fines and still commit the offence. Think rich super car owners.

Edited by HantsRat on Tuesday 20th August 09:34

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

[av185]

But anyone with even half a brain cell knows that doesn't spell BOLD at all.

It spells 8OLD.

Unless you are in the deluded thicko/retard camp and entirely dyslexic.

Which all Chavplaters clearly must be by definition.

[Deranged Rover]

av185 said:

But that doesn't spell BOLD at all.

It spells 8OLD.

^^^This exactly^^^

I've checked the OED and "eightold" doesn't appear to be a word, so I'm a bit confused.

[av185]

xjay1337 said:

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

Because it is illegal.

And even worse it is a crime committed by a Chav purely for vanity reasons due to their major insecurities.

[Le Controleur Horizontal]

underwhelmist said:

Request accepted

[xjay1337]

av185 said:

xjay1337 said:

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

Because it is illegal.

And even worse it is a crime committed by a Chav purely for vanity reasons due to their major insecurities.

I know it's "illegal".

So I decide to take the risk and the fine.

But my point is that I don't understand why the DVLA would make a plate that says for example C1 OAK and claim it says CLOAK but it actually says CL OAK (Colin Lees and you sell OAK trees?)
But if you space it to say C1OAK but then you get a fine.
That seems stupid - the plate can still be read by people, cameras (despite the "ANPR CAN'T READ IT!1!one" bridgade).

Who cares if it's for vanity, many people do things for vanity, who cares?

Seems just like a rule for rules sake and another way to just continue the war on the motorist.
The joke is , the fine for FAILING TO DISPLAY A PLATE AT ALL is the same as simply removing a SPACE
How DUMB is that.

And before you go "it's illegal" so is doing 75 mph , but I bet you do that without trying to take the moral high ground

[av185]

xjay1337 said:

av185 said:

xjay1337 said:

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

Because it is illegal.

And even worse it is a crime committed by a Chav purely for vanity reasons due to their major insecurities.

I know it's "illegal".

So I decide to take the risk and the fine.

But my point is that I don't understand why the DVLA would make a plate that says for example C1 OAK and claim it says CLOAK but it actually says CL OAK (Colin Lees and you sell OAK trees?)
But if you space it to say C1OAK but then you get a fine.
That seems stupid - the plate can still be read by people, cameras (despite the "ANPR CAN'T READ IT!1!one" bridgade).

Who cares if it's for vanity, many people do things for vanity, who cares?

Seems just like a rule for rules sake and another way to just continue the war on the motorist.

And before you go "it's illegal" so is doing 75 mph , but I bet you do that without trying to take the moral high ground

[Exige77]

xjay1337 said:

HantsRat said:

In all seriousness:

A - A VDRS where you have 14 days to get a proper legal plate fitted, form signed and stamped by MOT station and post back to police
B - £100 fine (No points)
C - £100 fine + Referall to DVLA to have the private plate revoked - Usually used in those circumstances where they've had multiple fines and still commit the offence. Think rich super car owners.

Edited by HantsRat on Tuesday 20th August 09:34

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

All manor of strange car modifications are all a matter of taste. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but number plates are there to identify the vehicle.

Any tampering (chavwitery) should be “terminated with extreme prejudice”.

If you want a nice plate, buy one and don’t make your own.

[selym]

av185 said:

xjay1337 said:

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

Because it is illegal.

And even worse it is a crime committed by a Chav purely for vanity reasons due to their major insecurities.

43 posts on the reg plate thread! It must really annoy you.

[av185]

xjay1337 said:

av185 said:

xjay1337 said:

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

Because it is illegal.

And even worse it is a crime committed by a Chav purely for vanity reasons due to their major insecurities.

I know it's "illegal".

So I decide to take the risk and the fine.

But my point is that I don't understand why the DVLA would make a plate that says for example C1 OAK and claim it says CLOAK but it actually says CL OAK (Colin Lees and you sell OAK trees?)
But if you space it to say C1OAK but then you get a fine.
That seems stupid - the plate can still be read by people, cameras (despite the "ANPR CAN'T READ IT!1!one" bridgade).

Who cares if it's for vanity, many people do things for vanity, who cares?

Seems just like a rule for rules sake and another way to just continue the war on the motorist.

And before you go "it's illegal" so is doing 75 mph , but I bet you do that without trying to take the moral high ground

Ah the old speeding chestnut again!

AS for the DVLA they can be viewed as closet Chavplaters themselves as I agree they actively encourage the misspacing and bdisation of plates by appealing to those buyers with Chav pretensions to inflate their low ego and eroded esteem by breaking the law and displaying a Chavplate.

Why would the DVLA act in such an underhand way?

Money. And a huge amount of it £££ generated by the sale of these Chavplates to those sections of the Chav community which Chavplates are clearly aimed at.

[HantsRat]

xjay1337 said:

I know you are a member of the fifty but I do fail to see why number plate mis spacing is picked upon by some coppers.

Because it's against the law..?
The same way someone nicking something from the shop is against the law. It's all dealt with.

If I'm on patrol on the lookout for offences whether that's someone on their phone, tail gating or dodgy plates, they get dealt with. It's not like I'm out there just looking for dodgy plates. We're looking for all offences. Likewise if I'm en-route to a burglary and see a dodgy plate, it gets ignored.

A much simpler solution is not to put illegal plates on the car?

[silverfoxcc]

If you say it, it sounds like a very posh way of telling someone off Eight old ( or in normal language I told) although the rest of the plate makes that stament complete rubbish in English

OR he is a 'friend' of Jules and Sandy you are Bold Mr Horne, isn't he bold Jules?'


You have to be of a certain age to get that!!

[xjay1337]

HantsRat said:

Because it's against the law..?
The same way someone nicking something from the shop is against the law. It's all dealt with.

If I'm on patrol on the lookout for offences whether that's someone on their phone, tail gating or dodgy plates, they get dealt with. It's not like I'm out there just looking for dodgy plates. We're looking for all offences. Likewise if I'm en-route to a burglary and see a dodgy plate, it gets ignored.

A much simpler solution is not to put illegal plates on the car?

Right, but many things are against the law - Those things are often ignored. So I don't understand, the only thing I can thing of is that it's an easy way to ticket and generate revenue.
Let's face it a plate without a space is literally not hurting anyone nor are they going to cause the plate not to be seen. It's an archaic law that sometimes is policed in an archaic way.

The comparison with the theft is that often thefts are not properly investigated, or they are "caught" with the stolen goods but due to the unique way the law works, can't be prosecuted for the theft for a myriad of reasons - but a motorist speeding who is "caught" or otherwise doing something "illegal" is ALWAYS penalised.

There is a war on the motorist for sure.

av185 said:

Ah the old speeding chestnut again!

AS for the DVLA they can be viewed as closet Chavplaters themselves as I agree they actively encourage the misspacing and bdisation of plates by appealing to those buyers with Chav pretensions to inflate their low ego and eroded esteem by breaking the law and displaying a Chavplate.

Why would the DVLA act in such an underhand way?

Money. And a huge amount of it £££ generated by the sale of these Chavplates to those sections of the Chav community which Chavplates are clearly aimed at.

What is it with you and "chav" or "chav plate"?

You seem a very angry person - Did someone with an illegal plate upset you? You certainly have a lot to say on the matter.
I think the speeding point is fair, you claim the moral high ground saying it's illegal and "chav" but then so is speeding , but I'm sure you do that.

[NS66]

HantsRat said:

Because it's against the law..?
The same way someone nicking something from the shop is against the law. It's all dealt with.

If I'm on patrol on the lookout for offences whether that's someone on their phone, tail gating or dodgy plates, they get dealt with. It's not like I'm out there just looking for dodgy plates. We're looking for all offences. Likewise if I'm en-route to a burglary and see a dodgy plate, it gets ignored.

A much simpler solution is not to put illegal plates on the car?

Absolutely right - its just asking for trouble. Likewise the trend of having the front number plate in the windscreen just screams pull me over and while your there check I have my modifications declared to the insurance!!

[HantsRat]

xjay1337 said:

Right, but many things are against the law - Those things are often ignored. So I don't understand, the only thing I can thing of is that it's an easy way to ticket and generate revenue.

Let's face it a plate without a space is literally not hurting anyone nor are they going to cause the plate not to be seen. It's an archaic law that sometimes is policed in an archaic way.

The comparison with the theft is that often thefts are not properly investigated, or they are "caught" with the stolen goods but due to the unique way the law works, can't be prosecuted for the theft for a myriad of reasons - but a motorist speeding who is "caught" or otherwise doing something "illegal" is ALWAYS penalised.

There is a war on the motorist for sure.

Number plates have standards set for a reason. To answer your last question, Theft has lots of different points to prove for a prosecution. Having an illegal plate is a black and white offence. It's either illegal or it isn't.

It's not a war against the motorist, 99.9% of cars on the road have legal plates on and don't get stopped.

Again, simple solution is don't put an illegal plate on your car.

If you think the law is wrong and needs changing, I suggest you write to your local MP to lobby a change in parliament. Until then, it's illegal and will get dealt with. Granted not by all officers but certainly by traffic officers.

[av185]

xj337 you have admitted several times that you realise your mispaced Chavplate to be illegal.

So why do you feel the need to display it in such an illegal format?

Is it purely for your own vanity and egotistical reasons?

Why do you feel you are above the law in this regard whilst law abiding motorists have to comply with it?

[xjay1337]

HantsRat said:

xjay1337 said:

Right, but many things are against the law - Those things are often ignored. So I don't understand, the only thing I can thing of is that it's an easy way to ticket and generate revenue.

Let's face it a plate without a space is literally not hurting anyone nor are they going to cause the plate not to be seen. It's an archaic law that sometimes is policed in an archaic way.

The comparison with the theft is that often thefts are not properly investigated, or they are "caught" with the stolen goods but due to the unique way the law works, can't be prosecuted for the theft for a myriad of reasons - but a motorist speeding who is "caught" or otherwise doing something "illegal" is ALWAYS penalised.

There is a war on the motorist for sure.

Number plates have standards set for a reason. To answer your last question, Theft has lots of different points to prove for a prosecution. Having an illegal plate is a black and white offence. It's either illegal or it isn't.

It's not a war against the motorist, 99.9% of cars on the road have legal plates on and don't get stopped.

Again, simple solution is don't put an illegal plate on your car.

If you think the law is wrong and needs changing, I suggest you write to your local MP to lobby a change in parliament. Until then, it's illegal and will get dealt with. Granted not by all officers but certainly by traffic officers.

Yes, cos you can "lobby" a change like that with all of the other things going on at the moment - NOTHING will ever change, it is very naive to think otherwise unfortunately.

I take the risk and also take the fine. That's my choice. So I agree with your saying simply have a legal plate.

We can get into a debate about "the reason" why they have to have a "standard" - the fact of the matter is that when the "rules" were made 30 years ago that the equipment is different (IE cameras etc).
So it makes NO difference to visibility if you don't have a space in a plate. It is simply a law for no reason. I agree stupid plates with weird characters, but a normal plate without a space doesn't hurt anyone and it's just an excuse to fine someone.

Ironically it was a panda office who pulled me for my plate (deciding to nearly crash into me in an attempt to get me to stop , he was so intent on giving me a fine).

Traffic don't seem to care, maybe I have just been lucky with the police in my area who perhaps have better things to do .

[PorkInsider]

xjay1337 said:

Let's face it a plate without a space is literally not hurting anyone nor are they going to cause the plate not to be seen. It's an archaic law that sometimes is policed in an archaic way.

Where would you draw the line, though? other than at the top of a 1 to make it look like a T

Unfortunately people seem unable to just abide by the existing regulations, imagine if they were relaxed...

I'm not sure what you think is archaic about it. I could understand that argument if it was related to how technology has moved on but in this case we're all still relying on the same Mk1 eyeball that we've always used to read plates.

[xjay1337]

av185 said:

xj337 you have admitted several times that you realise your mispaced Chavplate to be illegal.

So why do you feel the need to display it in such an illegal format?

Is it purely for your own vanity and egotistical reasons?

Why do you feel you are above the law in this regard whilst law abiding motorists have to comply with it?

Not talking to you until you stop trying to communicate like a child by using chav 15 times in every sentence.

[xjay1337]

PorkInsider said:

xjay1337 said:

Let's face it a plate without a space is literally not hurting anyone nor are they going to cause the plate not to be seen. It's an archaic law that sometimes is policed in an archaic way.

Where would you draw the line, though? other than at the top of a 1 to make it look like a T

Unfortunately people seem unable to just abide by the existing regulations, imagine if they were relaxed...

I'm not sure what you think is archaic about it. I could understand that argument if it was related to how technology has moved on but in this case we're all still relying on the same Mk1 eyeball that we've always used to read plates.

I guess you could say that

I just don't think you should be penalised for taking a space out of a number plate as long as the gaps between the rest of the letters are fine and the plate is normal size ETC.

I was thinking with regards to ANPR camera quality advances , 30 years ago for example they are much harder to read plates than modern day.

Many other countries have much more relaxed plate laws and UK could maybe learn some stuff from them.