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[unident]

markyb_lcy said:

I suppose James Melville must know some really good "crisis actors", then?

Look how many this guy knows! Total amazing turnout for his “Dicks out for Harambe” meet

https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/76046574899320...

Amazing, I’m sure you’ll absolutely agree, as it’s posted on Twitter, so must be true.

[markyb_lcy]

unident said:

markyb_lcy said:

I suppose James Melville must know some really good "crisis actors", then?

Look how many this guy knows! Total amazing turnout for his “Dicks out for Harambe” meet

https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/76046574899320...

Amazing, I’m sure you’ll absolutely agree, as it’s posted on Twitter, so must be true.

Royal wedding.

[unident]

markyb_lcy said:

unident said:

markyb_lcy said:

I suppose James Melville must know some really good "crisis actors", then?

Look how many this guy knows! Total amazing turnout for his “Dicks out for Harambe” meet

https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/76046574899320...

Amazing, I’m sure you’ll absolutely agree, as it’s posted on Twitter, so must be true.

Royal wedding.

But he says it’s for the DOFH (whatever that is) and it’s on Twitter. I’ve provided evidence. I see you’re just swallowing the MSM pill. Open your eyes Sheeple.

[markyb_lcy]

unident said:

markyb_lcy said:

unident said:

markyb_lcy said:

I suppose James Melville must know some really good "crisis actors", then?

Look how many this guy knows! Total amazing turnout for his “Dicks out for Harambe” meet

https://twitter.com/aljwhite/status/76046574899320...

Amazing, I’m sure you’ll absolutely agree, as it’s posted on Twitter, so must be true.

Royal wedding.

But he says it’s for the DOFH (whatever that is) and it’s on Twitter. I’ve provided evidence. I see you’re just swallowing the MSM pill. Open your eyes Sheeple.

My understanding is that is what we people with a sense of humour call “a joke”. It’s not a concept I expect you to be familiar with.

[Red Devil]

unident said:

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:

The problem is you put all the people you don't agree with into the same conspiratorial bag. You then create situations where you demand evidence, but have a secret list of rules that apply to it, meaning you can disregard unless it passes your arbitrary tests of reliability.

I have to remember it's really just a load of randoms on the internet and of little practical importance in real life, my only hope is you don't spend your real life making everything so difficult.

Breadvan said he came on here to vent apparently when he was busy at work. I pop on to read and pass comment when I’m not busy. It’s a way to pass time rather than be serious. However, some on here are taking their conspiracies way too seriously.

A lot of you defend each other to the hilt no matter how bizarre the claims. This latest one is a classic example with people writing all sorts of stuff to try to prove that there was a huge protest in London despite there being zero credible evidence from anywhere. It’s not too big a leap to think that the media that opposes the government would have a field day with these protests, yet they’ve said nothing.

And yes I know that means it’s all a great big cover up.

Either there was a protest in London last weekend about Coronavirus restrictions or there wasn't. It's binary. There is no third option.
Are you denying it took place? If so, how do you explain the livestreamed video posted on here?
And please don't trot out the canard that it was the anti-Israeli one which took place in an entirely different location.
I suspect your 'credible evidence' is only what you deem it to be.

Edited by Red Devil on Tuesday 18th May 22:01

[jm doc]

NickCQ said:

jm doc said:

Can you explain why a protest on such a fundamental issue should be blocked by the BBC?

The BBC has reported on these protests on multiple occasions in the past and will probably continue to do so. I suspect this weekend they felt like the Palestine protest was a more important and interesting news story.

jm doc said:

There has been a complete removal of the human rights of the entire population for over a year.

I was not aware we had all been tortured, sold into slavery etc. Hyperbole helps nothing.

jm doc said:

All we hear from the media is about the risks we are facing from the virus. Many people think this is on the same level as the anti-vaxxers.

This is not a fair portrayal of the media's reporting. I have posted here and elsewhere a number of articles that demonstrate the progress made with vaccinations, protections against variants and so on, as well as balanced reporting from the BBC on the Great Barrington declaration. Equating that to totally fact-free vaccine opposition is nonsense.

Freedom of movement, freedom of association, the right to go to work are the most basic of human rights. Millions of people from this country have died defending these principles and quite frankly your response is an embarrasment.

I've heard nothing from the BBC's mainstream news about protests nor any analysis of the damage caused by lockdowns which may even not be effective.

The reaction to yet another variant is in a par with anti-vaxxers. It's non-science.

[markyb_lcy]

Can’t wait to hear all about how Reuters isn’t a credible source.

[Red Devil]

It is, but I made a mistake with the link. That was about one that took place previously in April. I've edited my post accordingly.

[NickCQ]

CobolMan said:

Have you read the Ofcom rules about reporting on Covid? No conspiracy theory needed for that, it's been published.

I don't know whether you are referring to this doc or whether something more recent has been published but it looks pretty vague?
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...

"However, we remind all broadcasters of the significant potential harm that can be caused by material relating to the Coronavirus. This could include:
• Health claims related to the virus which may be harmful.
• Medical advice which may be harmful.
• Accuracy or material misleadingness in programmes in relation to the virus or public policy
regarding it. We will be prioritising our enforcement of broadcast standards in relation to the above issues"

If you look at enforcement it's predominantly pretty far out stuff on faith channels like 5G / Bill Gates / Wuhan lab conspiracy theories:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/in...

[NickCQ]

jm doc said:

Freedom of movement, freedom of association, the right to go to work are the most basic of human rights. Millions of people from this country have died defending these principles and quite frankly your response is an embarrasment.

If that's what you meant then that's what you should have said. To call lockdowns a "complete removal of the entire population's human rights" is preposterous hyperbole.

[unident]

Red Devil said:

Either there was a protest in London last weekend about Coronavirus restrictions or there wasn't. It's binary. There is no third option.
Are you denying it took place? If so, how do you explain the livestreamed video posted on here?
And please don't trot out the canard that it was the anti-Israeli one which took place in an entirely different location.
I suspect your 'credible evidence' is only what you deem it to be.

Edited by Red Devil on Tuesday 18th May 22:01

I am asking for proof that it happened. Nobody has provided any. That livestream is utter garbage and could be anything from any time.

My credible evidence is ANY NEWS OUTLET ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. ANY NEWS OUTLET. I’ve said that over and over again, with only one caveat, that being that I will ridicule any link to any loony tunes website.

Surely it’s not difficult to find one respectable news outlet somewhere in the world that currently doesn’t support the government that would enjoy reporting on something like that.

markyb_lcy said:

Can’t wait to hear all about how Reuters isn’t a credible source.

Can’t wait to see the link

[CobolMan]

NickCQ said:

I don't know whether you are referring to this doc or whether something more recent has been published but it looks pretty vague?
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...

"However, we remind all broadcasters of the significant potential harm that can be caused by material relating to the Coronavirus. This could include:
• Health claims related to the virus which may be harmful.
• Medical advice which may be harmful.
• Accuracy or material misleadingness in programmes in relation to the virus or public policy
regarding it. We will be prioritising our enforcement of broadcast standards in relation to the above issues"

If you look at enforcement it's predominantly pretty far out stuff on faith channels like 5G / Bill Gates / Wuhan lab conspiracy theories:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/in...

There was a list of do's and dont's published last year that was a lot more specific than that which, as you say, is a bit vague. It was very much a case of toeing the government line.

[jm doc]

NickCQ said:

jm doc said:

Freedom of movement, freedom of association, the right to go to work are the most basic of human rights. Millions of people from this country have died defending these principles and quite frankly your response is an embarrasment.

If that's what you meant then that's what you should have said. To call lockdowns a "complete removal of the entire population's human rights" is preposterous hyperbole.

Err, which of these hasn't been removed during lockdown?

[NickCQ]

jm doc said:

Err, which of these hasn't been removed during lockdown?

The ECHR has a laundry list of what are regarded as basic human rights. These are the big ones I mentioned such as freedom from torture, slavery, unlawful killing and so on... you get my drift?

[CobolMan]

unident said:

Can’t wait to see the link

Does Yahoo news count? https://uk.news.yahoo.com/news/anti-lockdown-prote...

[RSTurboPaul]

Tell you what, unident - there's another march planned for 29th of this month, I believe.

Why don't you go and witness it yourself?

Apparently no other evidence passes your standard so perhaps your own eyes are sufficient.

[unident]

CobolMan said:

Does Yahoo news count? https://uk.news.yahoo.com/news/anti-lockdown-prote...

No It’s mainly an aggregator of news, rather than original content. It would be good to see where the original content came from though. If it’s a credible source, then I’ll believe you, if it’s one of those disinformation sites then I won’t.

RSTurboPaul said:

Tell you what, unident - there's another march planned for 29th of this month, I believe.

Why don't you go and witness it yourself?

Apparently no other evidence passes your standard so perhaps your own eyes are sufficient.

Great. We’re not discussing what might happen though. We’re discussing what has supposedly happened.

Not a chance am I going to go and watch a march, there’s paint to dry and grass to grow. I wouldn’t go to something I really believed in, as it’s not my bag.

Evidence is simple. A news outlet, any news outlet, amywhere in the world. With one caveat, if it’s a conspiracy lunatic type website then I’m ignoring. RT and their affiliates is a disinformation website. Yahoo is a news aggregator.

[unident]

anonymous said:

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@ thetugmaster

See how easy it is to play the fool.

[markyb_lcy]

unident said:

anonymous said:

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@ thetugmaster

See how easy it is to play the fool.

This could (perhaps should) be a thread in its own right

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