No yellow line but still fined Help Please
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Good Morning Gents
Wondering if anyone can point me in the right location to find the definitive requirements(laws)related to the actual markings and signage legally required to enforce no parking restrictions
Basically my son parked in a side road near his office which he has done several times (without any problems), however he has now received PCN as the photos clearly show there are signs in place that indicate that there are timed restrictions, however there are no actual road marking that indicate where the restriction actually applies
I have contested the fine and been told that he is still liable to pay penalty despite me asking for clarification regarding the need for clear and visible lines
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers
Wondering if anyone can point me in the right location to find the definitive requirements(laws)related to the actual markings and signage legally required to enforce no parking restrictions
Basically my son parked in a side road near his office which he has done several times (without any problems), however he has now received PCN as the photos clearly show there are signs in place that indicate that there are timed restrictions, however there are no actual road marking that indicate where the restriction actually applies
I have contested the fine and been told that he is still liable to pay penalty despite me asking for clarification regarding the need for clear and visible lines
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers
Edited by Simon Brooks on Monday 8th February 12:38
Simon Brooks said:
SonicShadow said:
IIRC, a restricted zone doesn't require lines.
am I not right in thinking that the road markings are required to indicate where the restriction starts and stops, otherwise the restriction in theory is endlessSonicShadow said:
No, they use signs to mark where the restriction starts and ends.
Page 54 : https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...I was under the impression these sort of zones were specifically introduced to allow yellow line not to be necessary. I know there's been stories in the local rag specifically about this.
For example this article
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/councils-urged-...
Supports that.
For example this article
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/councils-urged-...
Supports that.
marshalla said:
SonicShadow said:
No, they use signs to mark where the restriction starts and ends.
Page 54 : https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...blueg33 said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but I have a related question.
Single yellow line on a side road in Birmingham, but no signage at all regarding restrictions. Can I park or not?
Probably in the CPZ - http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cpzSingle yellow line on a side road in Birmingham, but no signage at all regarding restrictions. Can I park or not?
For the OP, there are signs up stating there are parking restrictions on the road in question so none should be too surprised a ticket has been issued. What's not to understand? My guess is one or more local residents were getting sick and tired of people using the road where they live as a free car park. I know parking's a real pain these days but that's probably the reason. As frustrating as it seems, it's a fair cop. Pay the fine.
[quote=Kyodo]My guess is one or more local residents were getting sick and tired of people using the road where they live as a free car park. I know parking's a real pain these days but that's probably the reason. quote]
Yep, that or the on-road parking is causing an obstruction to buses or dustcarts, fire engines, or simply other "normal" traffic etc. This isn't meant to sound arsey but they won't (or certainly SHOULDN'T) introduce a CPZ just because locals don't like others parking on the road. There will be a reason for it - in an industrial area it will be to prevent vans, trucks etc parking on all the footways for days on end.
Yep, that or the on-road parking is causing an obstruction to buses or dustcarts, fire engines, or simply other "normal" traffic etc. This isn't meant to sound arsey but they won't (or certainly SHOULDN'T) introduce a CPZ just because locals don't like others parking on the road. There will be a reason for it - in an industrial area it will be to prevent vans, trucks etc parking on all the footways for days on end.
Jobbo said:
blueg33 said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but I have a related question.
Single yellow line on a side road in Birmingham, but no signage at all regarding restrictions. Can I park or not?
Probably in the CPZ - http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cpzSingle yellow line on a side road in Birmingham, but no signage at all regarding restrictions. Can I park or not?
blueg33 said:
Ta. Its just in the outer zone, so you can park in pay and display bays. I assume you cant park on a single yellow? Surely if that's the case they should be double yellow as that would take away any confusion
Single yellow means you can park at some times, not others - but the problem is that is shown on the CPZ sign when you enter the zone. I parked on a single yellow on Waterloo Street one Sunday about 10 years ago, got a ticket and appealed because I'd found a way into the CPZ which didn't pass any CPZ signs. They might be a bit more thorough now with the signage.Good luck!
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