Herts Police.... odd.....??
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got followed by herts plod off a roundabout earlier.. was expecting a stop check.. but nothing... just followed me to 50yds from my house , turned around and disappeared....
thought nothing more of it, though a bit odd... (follow was a good few minutes)
10 mins later.. 1 plod on doorstep, 2 looking at car,
plod asks 'can i speak with mrs something or other?'
i reply 'who?'
plod ' mrs something or other'
me 'well that could be anyone, so no'
plod' well the owner or the blue cougar'
me 'its not blue'
plod 'yes it is'
me' no its not' (its black)
plod ' ok then the owner of the dark coloured cougar'
at this point mrs death joins.....
mrs d ' problem officer?'
plod 'is this your car?'
mrs d ' yes why?'
plod ' i may have got this wrong, but i followed this car unsure if it was stolen of if you were drink driving, but saw kids walk up the road when i saw you park up'
me ' so why didnt you stop us earlier then??'
plod ' i just wanted to make sure first'
me 'sure of what? if you was unsure why not just stop me?'
plod , why have you parked next door?'
me 'cos nobody lives there yet, so it looks like someone does, thus reducing the liklehood of a break in'
plod ' so why are the garage lights on?'
me ' estate agent left them on'
plod ' oh ok'
WHAT????????????????
clearly this copper was a complete TW@T
why did he not stop me sooner (i was driving)
why did it need 3 plod?
why had he the memeory of a goldfish? ( forgot name of vehicle owner between car and front door)
strange???
thought nothing more of it, though a bit odd... (follow was a good few minutes)
10 mins later.. 1 plod on doorstep, 2 looking at car,
plod asks 'can i speak with mrs something or other?'
i reply 'who?'
plod ' mrs something or other'
me 'well that could be anyone, so no'
plod' well the owner or the blue cougar'
me 'its not blue'
plod 'yes it is'
me' no its not' (its black)
plod ' ok then the owner of the dark coloured cougar'
at this point mrs death joins.....
mrs d ' problem officer?'
plod 'is this your car?'
mrs d ' yes why?'
plod ' i may have got this wrong, but i followed this car unsure if it was stolen of if you were drink driving, but saw kids walk up the road when i saw you park up'
me ' so why didnt you stop us earlier then??'
plod ' i just wanted to make sure first'
me 'sure of what? if you was unsure why not just stop me?'
plod , why have you parked next door?'
me 'cos nobody lives there yet, so it looks like someone does, thus reducing the liklehood of a break in'
plod ' so why are the garage lights on?'
me ' estate agent left them on'
plod ' oh ok'
WHAT????????????????
clearly this copper was a complete TW@T
why did he not stop me sooner (i was driving)
why did it need 3 plod?
why had he the memeory of a goldfish? ( forgot name of vehicle owner between car and front door)
strange???
So.
He got the colour wrong under sodium lights perhaps?
Or there is a blue one flagged on the PNC as 'of interest' which has a similar number to yours? Or maybe even your number cloned?
And perhaps said vehicle is used by some sort of itinerant group who move from empty house to empty house living free and earning money from the removal of fixtures and fittings.
Who knows? Stranger things have happened.
My local supermarket has a small washroom area for the use of customers. Whenever they hear there are certain types of people in the vicinity of the village they lock them up until the people have departed. If they don't they und up having to replace all the copper piping and fittings. I have heard of similar things with empty houses - heating systems and fireplaces disappear in no time at all.
We need to be suspicious of everything don't you know? You may end up with a bomb making factory next to you rather than the empty house you think it is.
Etc.,
He got the colour wrong under sodium lights perhaps?
Or there is a blue one flagged on the PNC as 'of interest' which has a similar number to yours? Or maybe even your number cloned?
And perhaps said vehicle is used by some sort of itinerant group who move from empty house to empty house living free and earning money from the removal of fixtures and fittings.
Who knows? Stranger things have happened.
My local supermarket has a small washroom area for the use of customers. Whenever they hear there are certain types of people in the vicinity of the village they lock them up until the people have departed. If they don't they und up having to replace all the copper piping and fittings. I have heard of similar things with empty houses - heating systems and fireplaces disappear in no time at all.
We need to be suspicious of everything don't you know? You may end up with a bomb making factory next to you rather than the empty house you think it is.
Etc.,
well you may draw your own conclusions, but i did quote the actual words said by the officer. i know it only takes a few mins to do a PNC, but to forget the vehicle owners name before the front door is opened is hardly conducive to a professional approach to things is it?
that is unless.... he wasnt a professional policeman....(asbestos suit on)
for whatever reason, i am sure things could have been dealt with better, and indeed he was a young chap as well...
maybe as previously said, a probationer
ah well... game over
that is unless.... he wasnt a professional policeman....(asbestos suit on)
for whatever reason, i am sure things could have been dealt with better, and indeed he was a young chap as well...
maybe as previously said, a probationer
ah well... game over
Sounds to me like they thought that you, the driver was pissed. For whatever reason he couldn't stop you at the time you were driving (for various reasons already mentioned). The sheer fact that the car was parked next door to them looks like the driver was pissed and either a) forgot where he lived or b) was trying to be clever.
He summonsed assistance just in case you were pissed (smell alcohol on your breathe, speech slurry etc) when you opened the door. The fact that you weren't probably confused him and he felt like a prat for dragging 2 colleagues over when clearly there wasn't a problem.
It is strange though and does smack of inexperience IMO.
He summonsed assistance just in case you were pissed (smell alcohol on your breathe, speech slurry etc) when you opened the door. The fact that you weren't probably confused him and he felt like a prat for dragging 2 colleagues over when clearly there wasn't a problem.
It is strange though and does smack of inexperience IMO.
purpleheadedcerb said:
Sounds to me like they thought that you, the driver was pissed. For whatever reason he couldn't stop you at the time you were driving (for various reasons already mentioned). The sheer fact that the car was parked next door to them looks like the driver was pissed and either a) forgot where he lived or b) was trying to be clever.
He summonsed assistance just in case you were pissed (smell alcohol on your breathe, speech slurry etc) when you opened the door. The fact that you weren't probably confused him and he felt like a prat for dragging 2 colleagues over when clearly there wasn't a problem.
It is strange though and does smack of inexperience IMO.
Could he actually have done anything about it though if the person who opened the door had been pissed? It was sometime later and they could have consumed any amount of alcohol after they'd parked up and gone into their home.
Not condoning D&D in ANY shape or form - I firmly believe in 12hrs between bottle and throttle - just interested.
DrDeAtH said:
both of us were stone cold sober, and how much alcohol can you realistically consume in 10 mins?
Sorry if you thought I was insinuating you had been drinking - that wasn't my intention at all and I believe you said so in one of your earlier posts.
But someone had suggested that the BiB 'might'have suspected you had been but unqualified/unable to do anything about it.
I was just wondering what they could have done 10 minutes later, after you had entered your home and could have been quite legally drinking.
Most people I know could, if pushed, certainly drink enough in 10 minutes to put them over the limit. Let's assume you could and did such a thing on that night and when you answered the door the BiB smelt alcohol - what could he have done about it at that point was my question?
I suspect very little, which makes it stranger that he bothered to come knocking in the first place.
OK. In certain circumstances, the Police have a power of entry (bash your door in if necessary) in order to arrest you/breathalise you, but I seem to remember they have to be in immediate pursuit of you.
The softly softly knock on the door would be because they aren't in immediate pursuit. I'd be happy to be corrected as after 5 years out, your brain gets a bit sketchy on the finer points! If the officer had asked you, "Have you had a drink in the last 10 minutes?" and you had replied, "No." If he then suspected alcohol and was satisfied that you were the person he saw driving, then he could require you to provide a breath test.
Obviously if he you said that you had just downed a bottle of whiskey then he hasn't got a hope in hell of proving you were intoxicated whilst driving.
By the way, I know that you said you were sober. I'm just talking hypothetically here!
Scott
The softly softly knock on the door would be because they aren't in immediate pursuit. I'd be happy to be corrected as after 5 years out, your brain gets a bit sketchy on the finer points! If the officer had asked you, "Have you had a drink in the last 10 minutes?" and you had replied, "No." If he then suspected alcohol and was satisfied that you were the person he saw driving, then he could require you to provide a breath test.
Obviously if he you said that you had just downed a bottle of whiskey then he hasn't got a hope in hell of proving you were intoxicated whilst driving.
By the way, I know that you said you were sober. I'm just talking hypothetically here!
Scott
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