"We want more cameras"
Discussion
The numbers of safety camera partnerships, Gatsos, Truvelos and SPECS will continue while people keep asking for them..
West Yorkshire's Safety Camera Partnership states:
You might be surprised at how many concerned individuals, community groups and neighbourhood representatives contact us every month to ask if we can help improve local conditions by setting up safety cameras.
In all cases, we will see if the roads concerned meet the Government's criteria for the installation of fixed or mobile cameras. If they don't, there may be other engineering-based solutions that we can offer. Or we can put people in touch with useful organisations.
We are concerned to hear from anyone with a view on speed control safety cameras and road safety. It is only with consensus that we can move forward in reducing road deaths and injuries. If you disagree with what we're trying to achieve, it does matter to us and we must find a way to debate the issues fully. That is what we are trying to do with the information we issue and that we display on our website.
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West Yorkshire's Safety Camera Partnership states:
You might be surprised at how many concerned individuals, community groups and neighbourhood representatives contact us every month to ask if we can help improve local conditions by setting up safety cameras.
In all cases, we will see if the roads concerned meet the Government's criteria for the installation of fixed or mobile cameras. If they don't, there may be other engineering-based solutions that we can offer. Or we can put people in touch with useful organisations.
We are concerned to hear from anyone with a view on speed control safety cameras and road safety. It is only with consensus that we can move forward in reducing road deaths and injuries. If you disagree with what we're trying to achieve, it does matter to us and we must find a way to debate the issues fully. That is what we are trying to do with the information we issue and that we display on our website.
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safespeed said:
Trafpol still need to deal with speeders...be it following vascar checks or laser guns...
So long as you don't act like a machine, I'll be happy.
Like I said the other day....It was a 40mph zone and I was only stopping those at 50mph....
Those 45-49 got a stern look and the four finger salute...
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The four finger salute is where I hold four finger up on my left hand, thus indicating 40mph. They all seemed to understand and they winced past me
lunarscope said:
Like I said the other day....It was a 40mph zone and I was only stopping those at 50mph....
Those 45-49 got a stern look and the four finger salute...
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The four finger salute is where I hold four finger up on my left hand, thus indicating 40mph. They all seemed to understand and they winced past me
What sign do you use in a 20mph zone ?
20mph isn't enforced in law...
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safespeed said:
I was talking with a bunch of seriously mad bikers. They thought speed cameras were just great because they could ride as nutty as they wanted between them.
The kind of attitude that makes plenty of Trafpol give little if no discretion to speeding bikers.
safespeed said:
The bottom line is that the group of folk nicked by speed cameras is NOT the group who use speed dangerously - it's pretty random.
What?
Camera debate aside...Why isn't it the group that speed dangerously?
Could it be that whenever I've done people for speeding, that is the first time they've ever done it?
It's a bit like the no seat belt merchant. "I normally always wear it"...
Either I'm the luckiest police officer in the world to catch everybody the first time they commit an offence, or each of them is the unluckiest as the first time they do something wrong they get caught..
safespeed said:
Now Trafpol, by complete contrast, have a statistically proven nose for trouble. You just have to remember to use your instincts and your experience all the time.
That's all very well...but scrotes and such like don't cause that many crashes. They drive about like Miss Daisy because they don't want to draw attention. Of course, there are exceptions....
Where the vast majority of KSI collisions involve 'decent' people in 'decent' cars.....
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safespeed said:
I must be a bad one then....as I can't tell the difference 100% of the time...or even 50% of the time....
I bet you can. I bet if you see a vehicle and think there's a problem there usually will be. I bet you just have to trust your instincts more.
Absolutely..but that's for scrotes with no insurance or no licence...or wanted on warrant...or drugs in the car...etc etc....
I have an excellent record for that...and have a good reputuation in my police station...(I'm proud..as reputation are easy to come by and hard to shake in the police)..
BUT,
I can't tell when I've stopped someone for simple speeding whether or not they are a good driver or not...
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WildCat said:
You saying that these scrotes who do not have licences are "toppest drivers" Liebchen?
No I'm just saying for every scrote KSI..there are 20 KSIs involving decent people in decent cars...
WildCat said:
As for the decent folk who are unlucky enough to be involved in accident - the very people who would benefit and take note of COAST if given such advice by you if you pull them
I often do stop many people and give them advice...However, sad as it is.....people tend to learn when they're hit in the pocket.....sad but true..
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TripleS said:
I can't tell when I've stopped someone for simple speeding whether or not they are a good driver or not...
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Surely you can if you've followed them for a short while.
If you merely stop them after pointing your hair dryer at them that's rather less of a guide to their driving ability, speed limit compliance apart.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
I was really referring to the 'hairdryer' incidents...
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Mad Moggie said:
People walking around with knives in their pockets haven't caused any injuries, yet..
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And should they do - then we have deliberate intent to do harm - mens rea
You don't need any of that....ask your army of BiB, lawyer, judges, politician family members...
Don't need deliberate intent or the bandying of the term 'mens rea' it's an offence...per se!
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