ok folks, what are your views on this then......

ok folks, what are your views on this then......

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silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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Following SC's exit stage left I have a choice to make.....

I am joining the safety camera partnership....
ok ok, only pulling the collective leg...sorry Gary if you are there, no offence meant towards you.

But I do have a dilemma.

In short I have seen the force MO who has told me that the injuries built up over the years mean I am staring down the barrel of a discharge on medical grounds. I have fought this tooth and nail as I really do not want the easy way out and enjoy the job.

The injuries aren't that bad in my view but the job has a duty of car bla bla, in other words doesnt want to be sued if I go pear shaped on duty etc.
Injuries have been obtained through years of playing rugby and generally being involved in as many human pile ups as possible.

3 discs squashed in my neck - meaning I have a few lurch moments.
Numerous broken ribs
Dislocated shoulder that gives me jip,
Arthritic knees that pop and tend to jam.....

Now, the knees can be dealt with by way of copperslip but I do have a dilemma.
I have been offered a Sgt's job in the control room which still means shifts which I like, and you are still on the operational side of things, or a desk pilots job which really isn't me.

Or.........my cunning plan is maybe to transfer into the MOD police. I do have a military background, have good knowledge of firearms, and don't mind service life....The downsides are they can post me anywhere in the country, which would be a shame as my kids are doing well here in brizzle. I know I would pass the fitness tests, not being big headed but I am quite fit. But would they have access to my medical records I wonder. And what did the doc put in there, I specifically asked him to put as little as possible as I can manage my dodgy body.

The control room job would be ok, at least for a while as an experienced police officer in there can make a difference to ground units, and decisions being made, but I can't see me staying for my remaining 15 yrs.

Bit of a dilemma really. The medical side of things are immovable, no operations etc....

Hmmm...what to do eh....

This isn't an attention grabbing post, feel free to throw flak or deflect it from sc's post

I'm not a loafing git but have to think a bit sensibly for a change, and yes I have given up the rugby
If this doesn't make sense I apologise.

Ps. The lads have offered to buy me a stannah stair lift.....bstards.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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Don't really want to leave the job to be honest puggit, it has so much to offer. However I don't have the skills for accident investigation....Never fancied CID, and certainly not into kissing grannies or playing a cuddly type role.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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dazren said:
Got to be the sergeants job in the control room. At least all of your experience to date will make a difference and help those BiB out on the streets. Less of a boredom factor than the desk job and keeps the kids happy staying at the same school, with their friends etc.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Thursday 7th April 16:04


Must admit, I am very tempted. Even if it's not for ever.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Whats your length of service?

Does 27 and half and Med Discharge you will get your 30 year full pension and instantly Index linked as opposed to waiting until 55 still apply? Also if it is a work related injury additional coppers?

Go for that desk job to ease out of the service with max benefits........

DVD


15 years to do DVD, so in the middle.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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Thanks for the replies - very valid points being raised by all....including being shot for being knackered

I don't intend leaving the job (or ph) and do tend to agree that the MOD plod would be a complete change and after these years in a civil police force. But having a service background I have been on the receiving end and wasn't that struck. Plus I am sure that medical records would have to be inspected for which I would probably be penalised...However I am cheaper to take on than someone fresh out of the box

The kids are 7 and 2 so uprooting them would be a bit of a nightmare, plus my wife works in the MOD locally.

Funny thing is that this only came about as I was transferring to the dog handling section when my knee went wobbly. Prior to that I had just completed tactical defense instructor training. which was no problem.

It isn't the end of the world, and I can understand the job protecting itself. I can't sign a caveat that states that I wouldn't hold the police responsible if I get injured as a result of my existing injuries as the old "duty of care" buzzwords become evident.

No, I can't do a desk job, don't have the patience for it and although not qualified yet have been in the role of acting sgt for about 18months, so maybe the control room job is the best option for the time being. This may open up other things later on (as stated by many of us posters). I honestly can't think of anything I can do other than the police....funny situation to be in really...However, as stated, not the end of the world, I will still be under the operational umbrella and able to make decent decisions from the control room. I'll keep you posted with any decisions I make.

Ta folks.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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wedge girl said:
I have no idea if this is possible, but could you transfer to a training role?


>> Edited by wedge girl on Thursday 7th April 19:35


I could do, with no problem, but its a bit 'rear echelon' for me at the moment. Mind you, if I obtained some training qualifications it could help me later on.....Think it's a bit soon for me and I like thinking on my feet, hence the ops room thoughts.. good suggestion though.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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Or if anyone on here can offer me a decent job, maybe breaking in members of staff, or personal security consultant to a billionaire. I'm yours, big, ugly and easy to keep




silverback mike

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Pies said:
I'd skip the MOD,take the job in the control room. Too many ifs on the MOD front.Eldest child is at the age where stability is important (i.e schooling and life long friends) Plus your 15 years into a pension leaving now could severly damage the payout.

Take the control room job sit back and take the time to evaluate if its for you or if there is another job in the force you fancy

AIMHO

or just set up your own car dealership


All making sense.......including the last bit....

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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I agree, its a funny feeling being in the middle. I personally think I will be fine, and certainly don't want to be classified as being put out to graze, but see the points raised by the doctor about efficiency.....I have never been a sick note and don't intend starting now....weird...hope you find a happy medium.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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"Honest Mikes quality PX corner".

You're on mate.

silverback mike

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Thursday 7th April 2005
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At least my snags are pretty simple obvious breakages so to speak, I hope the news isn't too bad. Maybe the GP is keeping his/her options open rather than presuming or assuming the worst.

Can't keep a good man down.

silverback mike

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Friday 8th April 2005
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gemini said:
Hello Mike - desk job man here
What is the desk job youve been offered?

As for control room - thgats a strong possibility

MOD will want your medical records and IMO will not want the burden of your pension and early retirement!
And there is also the factthat its a dull job! You dont get to investigate the good stuff unless youre SiB or similar - you could getto be posted to the shitiest corner of some god forsaken territiory!

Take either he desk job or the control room and mull over options in a more timely manner.

Good luck whatever



Hi Richard,
They initially offered a job in new bridewell, as file checking decision maker If it was up to me everyone would go to court so I guess I buggered that one up

The control room sounds the best option, they have said that it wouldn't have to be permanent, so as you (and others) have said, if I get in there and get my fingers into a few pies then we can take it from there....

silverback mike

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Friday 8th April 2005
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Zod said:
How about driver training? There are planty of companies that offer advanced driver training and I'm sure thye's value an experienced Police driver.

I've been going with a group of mates to Germany for BMW Driver Training in Germany and Austria for the last few years. Their Chief Instructor is a former German traffic cop.


Can't do driver training in the Police as I am not currently in traffic......Hadn't thought about outside the police though, maybe something to mull over. I have completed all the driving courses, and an evasive driving course when in N.I. All helps I suppose....

Can't see me teaching 17yr olds in micras

GO ON SON, GIVE IT SOME, TIME FOR A J TURN

silverback mike

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Friday 8th April 2005
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Good points off again - I have spoken to a few police officers in the control room, it seems to be quite a stressful job (on times) which involves a lot of quick thinking (on times!) I think this suits me as I am not a great one for protracted enquiries.....I suppose the stress is not the same stress that may involve personal injury, but the potential that the officers that are going to that or those particular jobs that you are sending them to, may suffer injury as a result of your decision. I suppose that is worse in a way as a wrong decision could put other peoples lives at risk. Must admit, there are some comms ops that I wouldn't listen to if they were stood in front of me, and others that I would trust implicitly. Experience on the street definately counts, and despite what people say, local knowledge does as well.

I rang the local MOD plod office in abbey wood earlier, funny old thing but even they said not to join.....grass is always greener scenario

I reckon decision is made really. Thanks for all the pointers folks, will let you know how things pan out.

Guess I need to get a punchbag now.

hmmm, nightmare, I'll have to work with lots of young girlies.

>> Edited by silverback mike on Friday 8th April 09:51

silverback mike

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Friday 8th April 2005
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gemini said:
join the club - 80% female - 50% of those single -


silverback mike

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Friday 8th April 2005
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havoc said:

silverback mike said:
hmmm, nightmare, I'll have to work with lots of young girlies.


Well why didn't you say that before?!?!? God, there we were, scratching our chins as to the best thing for you, and the answer was staring us in the chest...sorry, face!




PMSL @ Mike's story...having visions of Shrek and the princess now!!!