Forza Horizon 4

[TommoAE86]

Drew106 said:

I thought the races paid out the same, regardless of how many times you run them?

I like creating long road or rally circuit races, 10+ laps, something like that. They pay out quite a bit.

Yeah this is what I did on FH3, that round the map race, 10 laps / various perks / XP bonus FH car to max the number of wheelspins I get, but that's it if you want a meaningful hit of cash to buy lots of fun cars and tune them etc. But going back and doing a championship which pays out between 20 & 70k leads to an off-balance grind, which leads to this:

Mastodon2 said:

To put into perspective how long it takes to save up cash in this game, lets look at the colossus race, which I think is the most efficient race for cash grinding. It takes about 7 minutes to complete depending on the class of car you use, it can be done faster if you use the very top tier of performance cars but I'd say 7 minutes is a reasonable average. For that level, with highly skilled drivatars and no assists you'll get about 70,000 credits for a first place finish. If you want to get the 10,000,000 credits for a Porsche Pink Pig, you'll need to complete that race 143 times, which will take about 16.5 hours. Ok you can probably get one from the auction house for half the price, but that still means 8 hours of racing, using the most efficient race.

Bold and last paragraph are exactly the issue with alot of games, not just Forza, not just racing games but lots of games just don't have the endgame fun the old ones used to.

Mastodon2 said:

I still think there are fun things in the game, such as car collecting all of the stuff I want, but other than gambling Forzathong points on super wheelspins there doesn't seem to be an easy way to generate cash. I wonder what that is? Oh right, it's a deliberate design choice to keep players coming on to keep the servers busy and the game alive. I understand that if you give everything away too quickly you'll kill the game, but the devs have got the balance wrong here. I've been given way too many free cars I don't give a st about and not enough money to get the cars I actually want. If I could turn my free car rewards back into cash at even half of the full value of the car that would be a start.

The game is designed to push you towards buying the loot boxes. Call it a wheelspin if you must, but it's a loot box. The game wants to get you hooked into seeing the wheels spin around, hoping that your dream car will come out, but it probably won't, so you'll keep playing. This is the reason that the cash earnings in this game are so pitiful.

[tsp]

The smooth driving rubber banding is very noticable. I hadn't noticed a lot of the other issues you mentioned Mastodon2 but now you have I completely agree with them.

But still I am nowhere near bored or close to completing the game.

[xjay1337]

Mastodon2 said:

To put into perspective how long it takes to save up cash in this game, lets look at the colossus race, which I think is the most efficient race for cash grinding. It takes about 7 minutes to complete depending on the class of car you use, it can be done faster if you use the very top tier of performance cars but I'd say 7 minutes is a reasonable average. For that level, with highly skilled drivatars and no assists you'll get about 70,000 credits for a first place finish. If you want to get the 10,000,000 credits for a Porsche Pink Pig, you'll need to complete that race 143 times, which will take about 16.5 hours. Ok you can probably get one from the auction house for half the price, but that still means 8 hours of racing, using the most efficient race. And that doesn't include loading times or sitting through the reward screens. To be fair, you will get a few wheelspins along the way which might offer you some money, but it's no guarantee and the loot boxes do seem to be designed to give you st like horns, clothes and 5000 credit rewards more often than not so I wouldn't factor these in as being a big saving on the voerall time it would take to grind that cash out.

I think you are (perhaps purposefully?) ignoring the fact there are loads of other ways to earn money.
Buy the Ford Focus Hoonigan thing
Max out your skill points in the car for all the combo, x7 thing etc
Buy Porsche 964 Turbo...use skill points to unlock 200,000cr or something

Easy

I've put maybe 15-20 hours into the game and I have well over 6million without any sort of grinding at all.

Also not forgetting the drift pack cars (I think everyone gets them?) also give you free money and there are like 8 of them which is well over 1m.

[Mastodon2]

xjay1337 said:

I think you are (perhaps purposefully?) ignoring the fact there are loads of other ways to earn money.
Buy the Ford Focus Hoonigan thing
Max out your skill points in the car for all the combo, x7 thing etc
Buy Porsche 964 Turbo...use skill points to unlock 200,000cr or something

Easy

I've put maybe 15-20 hours into the game and I have well over 6million without any sort of grinding at all.

Also not forgetting the drift pack cars (I think everyone gets them?) also give you free money and there are like 8 of them which is well over 1m.

I'm not ignoring it, there is about 4,000,000 credits tied up in various cars in the game. Once you've raided that piggy bank there's nothing left in it. That's not a huge amount of money when you consider that by the time you own 250 cars, your total garage value will probably exceed 70,000,000 in value. And that value is all tied up and can't be converted back into useful currency easily.

[Pommy]

Mastodon2 said:

xjay1337 said:

I think you are (perhaps purposefully?) ignoring the fact there are loads of other ways to earn money.
Buy the Ford Focus Hoonigan thing
Max out your skill points in the car for all the combo, x7 thing etc
Buy Porsche 964 Turbo...use skill points to unlock 200,000cr or something

Easy

I've put maybe 15-20 hours into the game and I have well over 6million without any sort of grinding at all.

Also not forgetting the drift pack cars (I think everyone gets them?) also give you free money and there are like 8 of them which is well over 1m.

I'm not ignoring it, there is about 4,000,000 credits tied up in various cars in the game. Once you've raided that piggy bank there's nothing left in it. That's not a huge amount of money when you consider that by the time you own 250 cars, your total garage value will probably exceed 70,000,000 in value. And that value is all tied up and can't be converted back into useful currency easily.

Mine is 550 cars with a value of about 200million. You can only sell modern day HyperCars for anything like their market sale value - no one wants the old stuff.

[Mr E]

ajprice said:

Winter time. Blasted through 3 of the 4 weekly forzathon parts, didn't get the 10 trading paints done because there weren't any cars around to hit . Spent some forzathon points on the 911 and Skyline LM

I have a tune for a 1000bhp jag suv that is “amusing”. Stupid, stupid thing

[Cledus Snow]

Pommy said:

Mastodon2 said:

xjay1337 said:

I think you are (perhaps purposefully?) ignoring the fact there are loads of other ways to earn money.
Buy the Ford Focus Hoonigan thing
Max out your skill points in the car for all the combo, x7 thing etc
Buy Porsche 964 Turbo...use skill points to unlock 200,000cr or something

Easy

I've put maybe 15-20 hours into the game and I have well over 6million without any sort of grinding at all.

Also not forgetting the drift pack cars (I think everyone gets them?) also give you free money and there are like 8 of them which is well over 1m.

I'm not ignoring it, there is about 4,000,000 credits tied up in various cars in the game. Once you've raided that piggy bank there's nothing left in it. That's not a huge amount of money when you consider that by the time you own 250 cars, your total garage value will probably exceed 70,000,000 in value. And that value is all tied up and can't be converted back into useful currency easily.

Mine is 550 cars with a value of about 200million. You can only sell modern day HyperCars for anything like their market sale value - no one wants the old stuff.

I do. I’d much rather have old stuff. I keep being outbid on the auction house too so i’m Not the only one.

[Jader1973]

Cledus Snow said:

I do. I’d much rather have old stuff. I keep being outbid on the auction house too so i’m Not the only one.

Same here. I’m building a collection of nice older cars (auction house is very useful). I’d rather have a highly tuned classic than a Lamborghini or McLaren.

[Pommy]

Jader1973 said:

Cledus Snow said:

I do. I’d much rather have old stuff. I keep being outbid on the auction house too so i’m Not the only one.

Same here. I’m building a collection of nice older cars (auction house is very useful). I’d rather have a highly tuned classic than a Lamborghini or McLaren.

I'm not saying they're not subjectively wanted by people but on the Auction House the old stuff rarely sells for near list price but things like the McLaren F1 GT, F40, F50 etc pretty much sell for list

[goforbroke]

In FH3 I used to hate it when you ended up with 2 or more of the same car, but couldn't sell them. The only thing you could do other than keep them was to delete them.

What I'm finding in 4 though is that if I like a car, I'll have 2 or 3 of them, but spec them up for different seasons. Currently running around in a great winter/rally spec Lotus Carlton.

I think if they offered you 10% of the cars value when you remove it from your garage would be better. At least you don't feel like you're throwing it away.

[Shappers24]

New expansion announced... fortune island. Apparently their biggest forza horizon expansion to date.

[smithyithy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=83&amp...

[RB Will]

Well my Speed 12 won’t be much use there

[smithyithy]

Looks like it should be great for <300bhp cars, my little Anglia will be great round there

[xu5]

Looks like it is based on the Isle of Skye, can't wait!

[Mr Whippy]

This looked really interesting but then once it was out and videos all over YT it's clear that the roads are all about 6 car widths wide at least, and you just nail it everywhere.

Are there actually loads of 'normal' UK roads? Or is it mostly just arcade style stuff?

[The_Jackal]

All the roads are far from 6 cars wide.
Sounds like you wouldn't be happy with the game anyway.

[Mr Whippy]

I’d definitely need to run it on my PC with a wheel... but it sounds like an arcade racer so yeah possibly not my bag.

But TDU1 was great. I liked NFS4 a lot too.

Had it worked on Win7 I’d have tried it by now.

[Billy.RS]

Ooooooo that expansion looks fun

Finally gonna start to reap the rewards of the Ultimate Edition... don't forget they promised two expansions for this one as well

Re the 'big' roads - Some of them are a little bigger than IRL, but there are some cracking little back roads in this game, and finding them is the fun of it for me. Anything sub 250hp is a hoot!

[bloomen]

Mr Whippy said:

I’d definitely need to run it on my PC with a wheel... but it sounds like an arcade racer so yeah possibly not my bag.

But TDU1 was great. I liked NFS4 a lot too.

Had it worked on Win7 I’d have tried it by now.

I don't think it's wheel fodder really.