Gran Turismo 6....Official thread.
Discussion
Darkdice said:
f
k me there are some misrable tts on here.
We could pick holes in anything in life, nothing is perfect. Especially when trying to please 10 million plus people.
Whilst gt5 has its faults, the driving is pretty dam good. Yes there are better sims (iracing etc, but all are on pc) yes ive tried forza and its ok, again has its faults and each to their own.
Gt6 on ps3 - makes perfect sense to me. 3 and 4 both on ps2 1 and 2 on the original 1.
I do agree that this was an opportunity to get rid of the mass duplication in 5 and keep the best of breeds.
However, read things from gtp and Jordan's brief go concluded that the physics have moved on again.
As for the sound, there are one or two cars I think are poo in 5 but the majority are fine. Have you played with the theatre settings make a huge difference as does your sound set up.
AI have been useless in most games for the past 20 years and to be frank I couldn't care about offline. Give me the cas and tracks and we'll run our own races. For me that's what modern games should be about. Whether that's a quick blast with some mates or a championship on a weekly basis - yes I conceded the online for some isn't the best but look for a league of like minded fellows and its brilliant.
I don't care if 6 turns out to be 5.5 I'm happy y with that.
couldnt have said it better myself, most modern games are moving towards the online experience as thats what people want and tbh AI in general are hopeless.k me there are some misrable tts on here. We could pick holes in anything in life, nothing is perfect. Especially when trying to please 10 million plus people.
Whilst gt5 has its faults, the driving is pretty dam good. Yes there are better sims (iracing etc, but all are on pc) yes ive tried forza and its ok, again has its faults and each to their own.
Gt6 on ps3 - makes perfect sense to me. 3 and 4 both on ps2 1 and 2 on the original 1.
I do agree that this was an opportunity to get rid of the mass duplication in 5 and keep the best of breeds.
However, read things from gtp and Jordan's brief go concluded that the physics have moved on again.
As for the sound, there are one or two cars I think are poo in 5 but the majority are fine. Have you played with the theatre settings make a huge difference as does your sound set up.
AI have been useless in most games for the past 20 years and to be frank I couldn't care about offline. Give me the cas and tracks and we'll run our own races. For me that's what modern games should be about. Whether that's a quick blast with some mates or a championship on a weekly basis - yes I conceded the online for some isn't the best but look for a league of like minded fellows and its brilliant.
I don't care if 6 turns out to be 5.5 I'm happy y with that.
My main reason for not liking GT5 for the career is it moving too heavily to needing slicks on road cars, on race tracks.
I'm certain GT4 was more flexible in that regard so you could still progress nicely using lesser cars because the Performance Point system made you get more reward.
Multiplayer really made me struggle. To use cars I had to own them, and that meant buying them even though I never wanted to use them in career mode. Generally it was really good since I really like to drive with a wheel etc then my desktop is the best place for it.
Problem is my PS3 does a 'household' duty at the TV for BBC on demand, Blu Ray etc, so moving it back and forth was annoying.
The best thing that could happen to GT6 for me would be for it to come out on the PC and I'd probably play it a bit every day!
Dave
I'm certain GT4 was more flexible in that regard so you could still progress nicely using lesser cars because the Performance Point system made you get more reward.
Multiplayer really made me struggle. To use cars I had to own them, and that meant buying them even though I never wanted to use them in career mode. Generally it was really good since I really like to drive with a wheel etc then my desktop is the best place for it.
Problem is my PS3 does a 'household' duty at the TV for BBC on demand, Blu Ray etc, so moving it back and forth was annoying.
The best thing that could happen to GT6 for me would be for it to come out on the PC and I'd probably play it a bit every day!
Dave
Richyvrlimited said:
y2blade said:
It's not..the cars feel and handle completely different with a wheel.
A Force-Feedback Wheel transforms the handling dynamics of the game completely.
try one.
Have done, it's pointless when the single player and AI are so pathetic.A Force-Feedback Wheel transforms the handling dynamics of the game completely.
try one.
pmjg66 said:
Richyvrlimited said:
y2blade said:
It's not..the cars feel and handle completely different with a wheel.
A Force-Feedback Wheel transforms the handling dynamics of the game completely.
try one.
Have done, it's pointless when the single player and AI are so pathetic.A Force-Feedback Wheel transforms the handling dynamics of the game completely.
try one.
t....just clunky and long winded compared to forza and XBL 
GT5 handling, with forza sounds ...on XBL interface would be superb
Mr Whippy said:
My main reason for not liking GT5 for the career is it moving too heavily to needing slicks on road cars, on race tracks.
I'm certain GT4 was more flexible in that regard so you could still progress nicely using lesser cars because the Performance Point system made you get more reward.
GT4s point system was brilliant and really would be nice if it came back. It gave you something extra to keep playing single player. I'm not so fussed about the AI, most game from racing to FPS has crap AI so its not just a GT5 thing.I'm certain GT4 was more flexible in that regard so you could still progress nicely using lesser cars because the Performance Point system made you get more reward.
WeirdNeville said:
But will they have learnt their lesson from GT5, or do they feel they are on the right track and people just haven't caught up with their excellence yet?
I feel that the whole game is basically a pet project, and if you don't like it that's your fault and not Yamauchi-sans problem.
I wouldn't care so much apart from I've loved GT since GT1 (failed my A-levels because of that sodding game!) and I just hate the waste of potential. Sadly,I think they've gotten worse with every iteration.
However, what I would LOVE to see in GT6 would be:
Absolutely agree on every point. There is a decent game lurking under there but they would have been far better off polishing the core gameplay and interface rather than trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at it. Yes it ended up with a lot of content, ideas and cars but the majority of them are half baked at best and just ended up extending the development time needlessly I bought my PS3 soon afer launch because Polyphony had announced GT5, little did I know I'd be waiting 5 years for a game which even then after all that time wasn't finishedI feel that the whole game is basically a pet project, and if you don't like it that's your fault and not Yamauchi-sans problem.
I wouldn't care so much apart from I've loved GT since GT1 (failed my A-levels because of that sodding game!) and I just hate the waste of potential. Sadly,I think they've gotten worse with every iteration.
However, what I would LOVE to see in GT6 would be:
- Proper progression. A career that grabs you and pulls you through, with logical and fair progression. If they could find a way to make you guide your destiny a tad (do you end up a NASCAR driver, in F1, a top GT driver, you choose by way of the series you take on etc) then that would be pretty sweet.
- Cars of a consistent standard in modelling. Sorry, the "non premium" car models have no place in a current gen driving game. Bin them, re-scan them, but don't just lump them in for old times sake. They lower the tone of the entire game. I KNOW the detail in the premium models having dicked about in photo mode, but the across the board models of Forza put them to shame. Likewise, the generic blank cockpit was a total immersion killer.
- Proper tuning. No brake upgrades? Srsly? That has to be about the most BASIC tuning upgrade to code into a game, and it's one of the first thngs you do track prepping a car in real life.
- A return to what made GT1 great: The feeling of starting out at grass roots and doing it from scratch. Hunting for a turbo silvia or an underpriced impreza or the lightest civic in used car lots so you could go racing, saving for an upgrade for the next series, tyres being costly but the best thing to buy... GT5 swung from being too easy and boring, to being STUPID UNFAIR hard (licence tests, the odd race), to just being impossible. Like the series race that basically demanded you buy a chapell fan car to be competetive. It just smacks of lack of attention to detail and poor gameplay polish. With the karting it had the PERFECT inroads to making a great driving sim career. It ballsed it up from there.
- Less bullst. Car washes? Really? Focus people.
- It felt like amy features were poorly implemented. It evidently had some real tricks up it's sleeeve - Rallying, rain effects (bloody amazing rain effects), "real weather", day/night cycles. Why were they saved for tiny corner missions or one off races? Do it properly or don't do it. I'd love races with random weather, races in the evening, proper rally series. Put it in the game! I want more of that! If you can do it, make it work in the game!
- B spec mode needs to die. I can get a driver to run races for me, to earn money for me... I'm getting the computer to play my own driving game. Someone somewhere should have spotted the flaw in logic that makes that mode seem like a good idea. IT was boring as hell and frustrating as hell and it has no place in a driving sim on a console.
- Meh, a whole list of other stuff that I won't even bother typing because I know they're not going to fix it.
The problem with having one person in charge of a pet project is that there is usually no one man enough to say "No that's a stupid idea, stop faffing around with useless crap and spend more time making the core game better"
The GT series has always had a decent offline mode which you could spend hours getting lost in, GT5's single player is inconsistent at best and downright frustrating\boring at worst. Yes I agree that online is where it's at now but they couldn't even get that right without releasing some major (4GB plus) patches and even then it became adequate at best (not talking about the gameplay, more the clunky matchmaking and lobby mechanics)
In short GT5 has to rank as one of the biggest gaming disappointments for me as a long time GT series fan. Needless to say I won't be bitten twice and I refuse to get excited about GT6 until it's in the shops and real people have had a change to play it. I just hope someone at Polyphony\Sony has the b*lls to stand up to Yamauchi-san this time and tell him where he is going wrong.
Guvernator said:
I just hope someone at Polyphony\Sony has the b*lls to stand up to Yamauchi-san this time and tell him where he is going wrong.
The highest selling Playstation exclusive franchise and the series that has sold the most units on every PS system so far, I don't think anyone at Sony will be having a word him. pmjg66 said:
ow did you find the online experience with your friends ?
Tried it once, but I'm not a fan of multiplayer, hence why I've not commentated about the online aspect.Don't start banging on about how it makes the game amazing, I've zero inclination to play it online, I like single player games, it's marketed as a single player game - with an online aspect. The single player experience is frankly quite rubbish.
RobGT81 said:
Guvernator said:
I just hope someone at Polyphony\Sony has the b*lls to stand up to Yamauchi-san this time and tell him where he is going wrong.
The highest selling Playstation exclusive franchise and the series that has sold the most units on every PS system so far, I don't think anyone at Sony will be having a word him. I actually wish GT5 had tanked to be honest as it really didn't deserve all the success it had and it MIGHT have caused them to step back and review what Yamauchi-san had been doing. I partly blame what I can only think of as a conspiracy by most of the major magazines which gave it glowing reviews plus it was always going to have the weight of the previous games in the series behind it, it really couldn't fail with that kind of kudos behind it and by the time a lot of people realised it was a lemon, it was too late.
Richyvrlimited said:
pmjg66 said:
ow did you find the online experience with your friends ?
Tried it once, but I'm not a fan of multiplayer, hence why I've not commentated about the online aspect.Don't start banging on about how it makes the game amazing, I've zero inclination to play it online, I like single player games, it's marketed as a single player game - with an online aspect. The single player experience is frankly quite rubbish.
billy no mates
Sounds can be really good, iracing recently updated the external sounds on their C6R..
Real C6R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bor-tA9ir04
iRacing C6R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVswCMI5iAw
For me the two things that really stood out with Gran Turismo were the selection of cars and the graphics. GT6 looks great but my current favourite has to be Assetto Corsa.
http://www.virtualr.net/assetto-corsa-new-ferrari-...
Real C6R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bor-tA9ir04
iRacing C6R
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVswCMI5iAw
For me the two things that really stood out with Gran Turismo were the selection of cars and the graphics. GT6 looks great but my current favourite has to be Assetto Corsa.
http://www.virtualr.net/assetto-corsa-new-ferrari-...
WeirdNeville said:
The problem is many people, myself included, bought PS3's in anticipation of GT5.
It was a long wait and a massive let down.
I think they know this, and I think this is why GT6 is a PS3 title on the cusp of the launch of the PS4. People (if they have half a brain) will NOT buy a PS4 in anticipation of the next big GT title. They got burned once, they'll be cautious next time.
While I agree with most of that, I still think I would have preferred it if they'd made this a PS4 title albeit not necessarily a launch title. I just don't think the PS3 can hack it any more in terms of pure hardware power and a lot of the racing sims available for the PC are now far superior to anything you can do on the consoles.It was a long wait and a massive let down.
I think they know this, and I think this is why GT6 is a PS3 title on the cusp of the launch of the PS4. People (if they have half a brain) will NOT buy a PS4 in anticipation of the next big GT title. They got burned once, they'll be cautious next time.
y2blade said:
pmjg66 said:
Richyvrlimited said:
y2blade said:
It's not..the cars feel and handle completely different with a wheel.
A Force-Feedback Wheel transforms the handling dynamics of the game completely.
try one.
Have done, it's pointless when the single player and AI are so pathetic.A Force-Feedback Wheel transforms the handling dynamics of the game completely.
try one.
t....just clunky and long winded compared to forza and XBL GT5 handling, with forza sounds ...on XBL interface would be superb
k.marctwo said:
Project C.A.R.S. is coming to PS3 in November in case GT turns out to be disappointing.
Another reason for 6 to be on ps3. Imagine if cars becomes the new GT, where would Sony and pd be once the ps4 is out! Saying that, there's one thing gt hasn't had, decent competition.
Darkdice said:
Another reason for 6 to be on ps3. Imagine if cars becomes the new GT, where would Sony and pd be once the ps4 is out!
Saying that, there's one thing gt hasn't had, decent competition.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthusia_Profession...Saying that, there's one thing gt hasn't had, decent competition.
I'd say this was half decent shame its so forgotton about would of loved to see some sequals
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