Warped discs & Tracking out

[Bluebell1976]

I’m so sorry if the warped disc thing has been done to death - I’m a clueless woman on this stuff !

I sold my sons car (fiesta) 2 weeks ago, with 11 months MOT - no advisories. Lady came, test drove and bought the car. Now she has messaged to say that there was some juddering when she brakes so after taking the car to a garage she has been told that the cost is £300 and she would appreciate it if I paid half. She also said that when she test drove it she noticed the tracking was out, which is subsequently due to the discs.

Is this right ? Tracking out causes warped discs ? Or warped discs caused tracking to be out ? Either was we noticed no juddering and had the car MOT’d and inspected for sale.

[Bluebell1976]

Sorry hadn’t finished !

I’m wondering if a garage is having her over or whether this could actually happen. We genuinely have Ben driving the car for over a year without either of these problems !

Thank you in advance if anyone can offer any advice.

[SlimJim16v]

NO, she wouldn't have noticed tracking out on test drive.
Faulty discs have nothing to do with tracking.
She is trying it on.

For more info https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by SlimJim16v on Wednesday 6th March 19:17

[GreenV8S]

If this was a private sale the terms would normally be 'sold as seen' and it is good practice to put that explicitly on the bill of sale.

In that case the seller provides no warranty of the condition of the car, the buyer takes responsibility for doing any inspection necessary to assure themselves of the condition, and by agreeing to complete the sale has accepted the car in whatever condition it was in.

In other words, once they leave your property with their car, anything that happens to it after that (including pre-existing faults they discover later) is not your problem.

[tapkaJohnD]

If you need more support, Bluebell, see Honest John on private sales: https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/keywords/?word=...

John (the other one)

[Bluebell1976]

Thank you

[Coilspring]

If they had contacted you the same day, or even the next with some concerns, then you might have a different response.

But 2 weeks later, how many kerbs have been hit, potholes, etc.

[E-bmw]

As above, total chancer with a "little information" causing the expected issues, tell them to "jog on" & try harder next time.

[Bluebell1976]

I have said that
1. We had never noticed any juddering while braking or when we went with them for the test drive.
2. The private road they test drove it on probably wasn’t the best place to tell whether tracking was out or not as it isn’t a very level road at all.
3. I drove the car several times and can’t say I ever noticed it pulling to one side.
4. Either way faulty discs have nothing to do with tracking,
5. I’ve checked with the garage that MOT’d it. They found no issues with the brakes, and there was no advisories on the MOT. The only thing they found wrong was a tyre so we asked them to put a new one on.
6. Maybe they could get a second opinion, and price as that seems a lot for brakes to be done on a fiesta.
7. We had the car MOT’d, checked over and sold it as described. They were welcome to have it checked over yourself before purchasing but were happy with the car after looking at it and test driving it.
8. I’m afraid it’s not now down to Us to pay £150 towards a problem that has now arisen, which we didn’t experience at all whilst owning the car.

[GreenV8S]

Point 7 is the only one that matters. Arguably, the other points weaken your argument since they seem to be implying that you might have been liable under other circumstances and just give them options to refute something you say.

Sold as seen is all you need to say, end of story.

[Bluebell1976]

True....just wanted to point a few things out though. She hasn’t replied.

[tapkaJohnD]

Bluebell,
you're not alone - another seller has a similar story, told on another forum of this site:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

John

[NotBenny]

Bluebell1976 said:

I should have said that
1. We had never noticed any juddering while braking or when we went with them for the test drive.
2. The private road they test drove it on probably wasn’t the best place to tell whether tracking was out or not as it isn’t a very level road at all.
3. I drove the car several times and can’t say I ever noticed it pulling to one side.
4. Either way faulty discs have nothing to do with tracking,
5. I’ve checked with the garage that MOT’d it. They found no issues with the brakes, and there was no advisories on the MOT. The only thing they found wrong was a tyre so we asked them to put a new one on.
6. Maybe they could get a second opinion, and price as that seems a lot for brakes to be done on a fiesta.
7. We had the car MOT’d, checked over and sold it as described. They were welcome to have it checked over yourself before purchasing but were happy with the car after looking at it and test driving it.
8. I’m afraid it’s not now down to Us to pay £150 towards a problem that has now arisen, which we didn’t experience at all whilst owning the car.
The car was described accurately and sold as seen.

there, fixed that for you.

Don't make a rod for your own back by talking too much in these circumstances - you don't need to justify yourself providing you have accurately described the car and are not a trader.