How to change springs - do it yourself?
How to change springs - do it yourself?
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CM954

Original Poster:

532 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Hi All,

Bought a 2011 Mx5 that has Eiback springs on.
Moved to somewhere with terrible roads and need to put original springs back on for more ground clearance.

Garage charged my girlfriend £345 to change 4 springs.
Now wondering if I'd known it would be that much whether it would have been easier/cheaper to buy a tool and do it myself.

How hard can it be.......?

(I might change back at some point so it has *some* relevance to current situation!)

CM954

Original Poster:

532 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Should mention - had both sets of springs. No other work required as cups (or whatever they're called) are the same size.

Codswallop

5,256 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Check out some of the links on the MX5 forum; https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=393431

Be really careful when using spring compressors and dealing with a compressed spring. It could literally kill you if you get it wrong.

parabolica

6,885 posts

200 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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If you get a decent (safe) spring compressor it's an easy job, assuming you have the space to work, and the other tools such as a jack, axle stands, spanners for the relevant bolts. Would suggest searching youtube for a guide - there will be tons for all variants of the MX5.

LuS1fer

42,628 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I have changed many springs, both in struts and otherwise. It takes time winding them and you need to buy decent compressors - I note Edd China's have twin jawed clamps as opposed to cheaper hook types which can slip. The main trick is to wrap masking tape around the grip area or the compressor slowly slides round.

The other tricky part is finding the right place and angle to accommodate the main screw as it compresses. Just be careful as slippage can hurt or cause serious injury.

Colonel D

631 posts

88 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Codswallop said:
Be really careful when using spring compressors and dealing with a compressed spring. It could literally kill you if you get it wrong.
^^ spring clamps are lethal if you make a mistake.

Gilhooligan

2,220 posts

160 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I helped a mate fit Eibach springs to his mk3 mx5. (Which totally ruined the handling, looked cool though laugh ). Which I assume is the same model as yours. The rears are very easy to swap due to the multi link setup.
However the fronts are much harder due to the double wishbones. We had to undo the drop links and split the ballpoints. Even then, the spring compressors we used didn’t fit through the centre of the wishbone. We ended up doing the (even more) dangerous tactic of taking the load off the springs and cutting them.

Edited by Gilhooligan on Tuesday 16th April 16:47

CM954

Original Poster:

532 posts

201 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Cheers All,

Suddenly £345 doesn't look quite so bad - a bit more involved than I thought.

Prizam

2,443 posts

157 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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CM954 said:
Cheers All,

Suddenly £345 doesn't look quite so bad - a bit more involved than I thought.
Not too bad if it all goes to plan, 1 rusted up bolt and you will soon see the value of a few hundred quid.

Diversion

20 posts

76 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JjxXN_TxhY

I have seen a clearer version but cant find it.

Stand on the spring undo the nut with an impact gun, watch the shock shoot out of the garage !

ian_cab28

207 posts

233 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Did this once never again....the slight of a compressor bolt sliding around to meet all the others and the spring going like a banana is one I won't forget!! and the impact gun to tension them all up in sequence. Bloody lethal activity without the proper straight framed finger plate compressor tool (see Monroe vid on youtube, ok with one of these)


anonymous-user

70 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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I've found that the 'claw' type compressors don't work too well on many modern springs, which taper towards the ends. Not too bad on 'straight sided' types.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

97 months

Thursday 23rd May 2019
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LuS1fer said:
I have changed many springs, both in struts and otherwise. It takes time winding them and you need to buy decent compressors - I note Edd China's have twin jawed clamps as opposed to cheaper hook types which can slip. The main trick is to wrap masking tape around the grip area or the compressor slowly slides round.

The other tricky part is finding the right place and angle to accommodate the main screw as it compresses. Just be careful as slippage can hurt or cause serious injury.
This is about the best bit of advice here.

The only thing I would add to this is to never, ever, ever put your face in front of the main screw and to wear eye protection.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

125 months

Thursday 23rd May 2019
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sgtBerbatov said:
LuS1fer said:
I have changed many springs, both in struts and otherwise. It takes time winding them and you need to buy decent compressors - I note Edd China's have twin jawed clamps as opposed to cheaper hook types which can slip. The main trick is to wrap masking tape around the grip area or the compressor slowly slides round.

The other tricky part is finding the right place and angle to accommodate the main screw as it compresses. Just be careful as slippage can hurt or cause serious injury.
This is about the best bit of advice here.

The only thing I would add to this is to never, ever, ever put your face in front of the main screw and to wear eye protection.
Wear a helmet

PaulKemp

979 posts

161 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Bluezed said

springs are relatively easy to change and a good DIY job. I wouldn't recommend learning on a car that needs all 4 changed though. Better to learn on a car with a single snapped spring and you're replacing like for like. That way you are doing 1 job instead of 4, and you're not forced to replace the rest of the springs to have the car handling reasonably.

It’s never good to change just once side as 1 will be new and the other older and probably softer with time.

As your changing harder springs to standard you have to do all 4.

If you have double wishbone suspension then is usually easier than MacPherson struts.

The worst springs to compress are the ones that are thinner top and bottom, I’ve ended up using 3 compressors for 1 spring.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

97 months

Wednesday 29th May 2019
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PaulKemp said:
Bluezed said

springs are relatively easy to change and a good DIY job. I wouldn't recommend learning on a car that needs all 4 changed though. Better to learn on a car with a single snapped spring and you're replacing like for like. That way you are doing 1 job instead of 4, and you're not forced to replace the rest of the springs to have the car handling reasonably.

It’s never good to change just once side as 1 will be new and the other older and probably softer with time.

As your changing harder springs to standard you have to do all 4.

If you have double wishbone suspension then is usually easier than MacPherson struts.

The worst springs to compress are the ones that are thinner top and bottom, I’ve ended up using 3 compressors for 1 spring.
I don't get that advice. Only change one spring on a car that needs one replacing, but then you should only ever do them in a pair?

I changed all 4 shocks on my Corolla for the first time, I did one at a time, and made mistakes in terms of forgetting bump stops or dust covers etc. But - touch wood - it is an easy job as long as you respect them and dont put your face anywhere near a place on the spring where it would shoot off and kill you.

And wear a helmet

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th May 2019
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Found this on the internet, brave!

E-bmw

11,121 posts

168 months

Friday 31st May 2019
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james_gt3rs said:
Found this on the internet, brave!
Clearly someone who doesn't value fingers & toes & has never seen a multi-hundred lb/in spring let go!

njw1

2,483 posts

127 months

Friday 31st May 2019
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james_gt3rs said:
Found this on the internet, brave!

Brave? F'kin stupid more like! Not the first time he did it either judging by the scrape mark on the ground.