roger waters Amused To Death LP wanted
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Have you read "Inside Out" by Nick Mason yet? My brother and I got it for my Dad for Christmas, needless to say I pilfered it straight away and read it straight through.
It sort of kills the mystique, akin to the saying that says you should never meet your idols! Still very interesting though.
It sort of kills the mystique, akin to the saying that says you should never meet your idols! Still very interesting though.
A.C.E said:Better recorded? I doubt that, unless the LP was cut from the GEN1 master as opposed to the CD which was not?
because the LP is better recorded, and besides, analogue IS better than cd.
But I guess the LP will sound warmer, if played on some half decent kit.
Have you tried any online emporiums? Other than that, US E-Bay may turn up a belter for you. Pros and Cons is the populists Waters choice, as it was all but the next 'Floyd album after The Final Cut.
if there was the master recording on vinyl available, it would cost a small fortune. vinyl can be warmer than digital, but, with analogue, no digital nasties. i have it on cd, sounds great, but vinyl will sound better.(imo)
been on american e-bay, nothing as yet. mailed some vinyl stores, just have to wait now.
thanks for your help
edited to add:-
on american, its 150 dollars, with 7 days remaining!
>> Edited by A.C.E on Thursday 6th January 21:06
been on american e-bay, nothing as yet. mailed some vinyl stores, just have to wait now.
thanks for your help
edited to add:-
on american, its 150 dollars, with 7 days remaining!
>> Edited by A.C.E on Thursday 6th January 21:06
A.C.E said:
because the LP is better recorded, and besides, analogue IS better than cd.
Normally I would agree, but modern vinyl is pressed on paper-thin records. I haven't come across a good sounding piece of vinyl since anything after the 70's.
Have you tried Mobile Fidelity labs? They might have done it.
So to wedge it on vinyl in the first place, they take the tapes from the studio, which have been produced the way the artist/producer want it to sound. Then it gets mastered such that it will actually *play* on vinyl without the needle jumping out of the groove etc, and surprise surprise, it sounds different.
Now, for any given piece of music that might sound subjectively "better" or subjectively "worse" on CD versus vinyl, it is pretty likely that it probably doesn't sound how the producer originally set it all up. It is, however, likely that the CD is much closer to the original sound of the studio masters than the vinyl since it hasn't had (out of necessity) to go through all sorts of sonic compomises in order to be playable.
Additionally, factor into the equation the fact that mastering is the phase where the mastering engineer gets to fix (or go some way towards fixing) mistakes made in the studio, since the mastering engineer usually has a much more faithful listening environment than most studios (it's their job to). The vinyl mastering was probably done by one engineer ages ago, the CD mastering by another engineer much more recently, each with differing views on what sounds good.
What I'm trying to say is that it's probably not the medium that makes the difference to what you hear, but the mastering engineer(s). Couple that with the unseemly scramble that took place to re-release stuff on CD and you've probably got a situation where a well mastered vinyl release gets stacked up against a cheaply/poorly mastered CD release.
I'll get me coat...
>> Edited by Marshy on Thursday 6th January 22:56
Now, for any given piece of music that might sound subjectively "better" or subjectively "worse" on CD versus vinyl, it is pretty likely that it probably doesn't sound how the producer originally set it all up. It is, however, likely that the CD is much closer to the original sound of the studio masters than the vinyl since it hasn't had (out of necessity) to go through all sorts of sonic compomises in order to be playable.
Additionally, factor into the equation the fact that mastering is the phase where the mastering engineer gets to fix (or go some way towards fixing) mistakes made in the studio, since the mastering engineer usually has a much more faithful listening environment than most studios (it's their job to). The vinyl mastering was probably done by one engineer ages ago, the CD mastering by another engineer much more recently, each with differing views on what sounds good.
What I'm trying to say is that it's probably not the medium that makes the difference to what you hear, but the mastering engineer(s). Couple that with the unseemly scramble that took place to re-release stuff on CD and you've probably got a situation where a well mastered vinyl release gets stacked up against a cheaply/poorly mastered CD release.
I'll get me coat...
>> Edited by Marshy on Thursday 6th January 22:56
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