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Simpo Two

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89,234 posts

281 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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I was recently given a collection of bric-a-brac, amongst which are two intriguing items. Google hasn't thrown up any clues.

First off is a brass cartridge case, which I'm pretty sure is a .303, but intricately carved in what appears to be an Indian style. It's 56mm high:



With a bit of jiggling I can show you all the carving like this:



Next to it in the box is a tiny 'stand' just 26mm high with a carved and polished agate base and possibly silver carved top in Corinthian style:



Interestingly the diameter of the hole in this is exactly the same as that in the top of the cartridge case (approx 8mm), so I wonder if it originally contained the bullet.

Has anyone seen anything like this before, or have an idea of any value?

Chairman LMAO

666 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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close to £100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 i'd say.

Jasandjules

71,138 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Never seen anything like that before, but it's stunning.

Henry Hawthorne

6,452 posts

232 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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That cartridge case is very, very cool.

BigLepton

5,042 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Intricately carved pieces of bone or shell cases usually done by prisoners of war are collectively known as 'Scrimshaw' and I think that's what your .303 case is. Might help in your search.

Simpo Two

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89,234 posts

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Tuesday 10th March 2009
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BigLepton said:
Intricately carved pieces of bone or shell cases usually done by prisoners of war are collectively known as 'Scrimshaw' and I think that's what your .303 case is. Might help in your search.
That's a good point. I'd only thought of it being by Napoleonic seamen, but I guess it happens in all wars.

I wonder what nationality the prisoner was, and where he was?

Swilly

9,699 posts

290 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Simpo Two said:
I was recently given a collection of bric-a-brac, amongst which are two intriguing items. Google hasn't thrown up any clues.

First off is a brass cartridge case, which I'm pretty sure is a .303, but intricately carved in what appears to be an Indian style. It's 56mm high:



With a bit of jiggling I can show you all the carving like this:



Next to it in the box is a tiny 'stand' just 26mm high with a carved and polished agate base and possibly silver carved top in Corinthian style:



Interestingly the diameter of the hole in this is exactly the same as that in the top of the cartridge case (approx 8mm), so I wonder if it originally contained the bullet.

Has anyone seen anything like this before, or have an idea of any value?
Seal (as in wax seal) and melting pot

BigLepton

5,042 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Simpo Two said:
BigLepton said:
Intricately carved pieces of bone or shell cases usually done by prisoners of war are collectively known as 'Scrimshaw' and I think that's what your .303 case is. Might help in your search.
That's a good point. I'd only thought of it being by Napoleonic seamen, but I guess it happens in all wars.

I wonder what nationality the prisoner was, and where he was?
If it's a .303 (does it say anything on the blunt end?) it could be anywhere between 1889 and the presnt day pretty much. So, Boer war, WW1, various Irish conflicts, pretty much any part of the empire (India, Malaysia, far east etc, etc) or even WW2. Lots of internment and POW action in most of those.

The design looks a bit Japanese to me.

Simpo Two

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89,234 posts

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Tuesday 10th March 2009
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BigLepton said:
If it's a .303 (does it say anything on the blunt end?) it could be anywhere between 1889 and the presnt day pretty much. So, Boer war, WW1, various Irish conflicts, pretty much any part of the empire (India, Malaysia, far east etc, etc) or even WW2. Lots of internment and POW action in most of those. The design looks a bit Japanese to me.
The blunt end has the central area carved (I forgot to photograph that) and the surrounding area is plain - no ID marks. My hunch is Far East. Family memories are getting hazy now but I also have a silk escape map of French Indo-China which I think is WW2 and may well have come from the same person. Thanks for the thoughts.

lady topaz

3,855 posts

270 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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If he is not too busy upsetting people with his sharp tongue, then Paul, unrepentant on here is your man for antiques.