What does "advanced driving" teach you?

What does "advanced driving" teach you?

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jamoor

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Saturday 15th March 2008
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Well, does it teach you how to control a slide at 30mph, or is it just common sense, much like the pass plus and regular driving test?

jamoor

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Saturday 15th March 2008
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Sounds wishy washy to me, essentially it sounds like, make progress, plan as far advance as you can.

jamoor

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Saturday 15th March 2008
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14 quid, is there a website with the basics on there?

jamoor

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Sunday 16th March 2008
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WeirdNeville said:
jamoor said:
Sounds wishy washy to me, essentially it sounds like, make progress, plan as far advance as you can.
Jamoor, have you ever experienced a drive out with a truly advanced driver?

It's a bit like a very good musician, or sportsman. The less appears to be happening, the more is going on beneath the surface.

I would define "Advanced Driving" as the ability to use a systematic approach to driving, in order to make maximum safe progress.

It's not necessarily about mastering every technique, much more about a frame of mind which means that you are using all the information available to make sound judgements and putting them into practice by accurate use of the vehicles controls.

Try and get a lift with an IAM observer or a police advanced driver and perhaps you'll get more of an insight of what all drivers should aspire to.
Common sense then?

Bieng able to guess what drivers are like and anticipate what they are most likely to do and adjusting your own driving to suit, "looking" 8 cars ahead on the motorway to check if any of them brake and trying to break the ripple effect? Knowing that the person in the driving lane is very likely to pull out due to rapidly approaching a lorry, that kind of thing?

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 16th March 22:20

jamoor

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Sunday 16th March 2008
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vonhosen said:
The thing about common sense is, that it is not all that common.
Is it possible to pick it up naturally, or must you be taught it, or will it come naturally given experience?

Can anyone give me a link to a decent resource with information?

Thanks biggrin

jamoor

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Monday 17th March 2008
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JamesFiesta said:
WeirdNeville said:
Try and get a lift with an IAM observer or a police advanced driver and perhaps you'll get more of an insight of what all drivers should aspire to.
This would be a good insight. I got the opportunity to work with a Traffic Officer in my tutorship as a Special (he is an Advanced ticket holder). It was one of the most interesting driving experiences I've had... a truly fantastic driver. Everything is smooth, calm and calculated. Nothing was rushed or last-minute, never saw anything that was even close to excessive.
It was a real eye-opener to see that the visible movements are very calm and planned, but he was thinking about everything, checking side-roads, looking ahead, watching his position/speed and so on. His attitude was totally different too... we got cut up on a roundabout during a response run... I did the 'oh ffs' type thought process, but he didn't appear to be phased by it at all.

When driving, we 'made progress', whilst keeping the car balanced (noted OP's comment about sliding) and safe.

It's why I've become interested in doing IAM, to change my attitude, improve observation skills and become safer. The guy is a model driver, it was impressive stuff.
I am surprised that people can drive WITHOUT doing all of that!
Essentially drive with the assumption that noone can see you.

jamoor

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Tuesday 18th March 2008
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WeirdNeville said:
Jamoor, not to sound trite, but it sounds like you missing one of the vital elements to advanced driving: An open mind.

You have to accept that your driving is less than perfect, but that it can be improved, before you will gain any benefit from "advanced driving" tuition.

If you're writing advanced driving off as "common sense" and "I do that already" without any first hand experience then you may as well go back you your cars eyes wide shut, pootle over your 20,000 miles and 0.3 accidents a year and never be any the wiser. That's why I suggested trying to find an advanced driver in order to learn what it is about. You might be surprised, or it may simply confirm what you already seem to know: You're the best driver on the face of the planet.
I guess I should, one of my dads friends is an IAM motorist, I ought to hitch a ride with him some time, thing is these things are one of the things that you meant o do, but never actually get round to doing frown