Mini engines - all BMW's own?
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New to this part of the forum so please be gentle!
Girlfriends father is looking at a Mini for his OH and was told by a BMW salesman that some of the engines are Peugeot units? Another told him they were all BMW units which I thought was correct. Could someone clarify who makes which engines in the range please?
Thanks in advance.
Girlfriends father is looking at a Mini for his OH and was told by a BMW salesman that some of the engines are Peugeot units? Another told him they were all BMW units which I thought was correct. Could someone clarify who makes which engines in the range please?
Thanks in advance.
Rob. said:
New to this part of the forum so please be gentle!
Girlfriends father is looking at a Mini for his OH and was told by a BMW salesman that some of the engines are Peugeot units? Another told him they were all BMW units which I thought was correct. Could someone clarify who makes which engines in the range please?
Thanks in advance.
Chyrsler ? Girlfriends father is looking at a Mini for his OH and was told by a BMW salesman that some of the engines are Peugeot units? Another told him they were all BMW units which I thought was correct. Could someone clarify who makes which engines in the range please?
Thanks in advance.
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The new 1.6-litre engine is one of a number of all-new petrol units that have been developed by PSA Peugeot Citroen and the BMW Group.
PSA manufactures the components and builds their engines in Douvrin, France — whilst BMW use the same source for components and build their engines for MINI at Hams Hall, near Birmingham.
We have just seen two versions of these new 'co-operative' 1.6-litre petrol units in the new MINI. One is a non-turbo 120bhp unit for the Cooper, and the other is a twin-scroll turbocharger and intercooler 175bhp engine for the latest Cooper S.
Peugeot uses another version of the engine for the 207 GT. This has the same 1.6-litre capacity with a twin-scroll turbocharger but has no intercooler and generates 150bhp.
The forthcoming Peugeot 207 GTi — due next year and scheduled to make its public debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March — will use the same 175bhp unit as the MINI Cooper S.
Next year Peugeot will also replace their own aging 1.6-litre petrol engine with the new PSA/BMW 1.6-litre non-turbo, 120bhp unit as
used for the MINI Cooper. At the same time, Peugeot will offer an automatic transmission option for 207 models fitted with this engine.
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Quote from http://www.motorbar.co.uk/207gt.htm, but these are widely know details..
Hope this answers your questions..
The new 1.6-litre engine is one of a number of all-new petrol units that have been developed by PSA Peugeot Citroen and the BMW Group.
PSA manufactures the components and builds their engines in Douvrin, France — whilst BMW use the same source for components and build their engines for MINI at Hams Hall, near Birmingham.
We have just seen two versions of these new 'co-operative' 1.6-litre petrol units in the new MINI. One is a non-turbo 120bhp unit for the Cooper, and the other is a twin-scroll turbocharger and intercooler 175bhp engine for the latest Cooper S.
Peugeot uses another version of the engine for the 207 GT. This has the same 1.6-litre capacity with a twin-scroll turbocharger but has no intercooler and generates 150bhp.
The forthcoming Peugeot 207 GTi — due next year and scheduled to make its public debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March — will use the same 175bhp unit as the MINI Cooper S.
Next year Peugeot will also replace their own aging 1.6-litre petrol engine with the new PSA/BMW 1.6-litre non-turbo, 120bhp unit as
used for the MINI Cooper. At the same time, Peugeot will offer an automatic transmission option for 207 models fitted with this engine.
[Quote]
Quote from http://www.motorbar.co.uk/207gt.htm, but these are widely know details..
Hope this answers your questions..
Edited by The Loose Goose on Tuesday 14th July 20:50
The Loose Goose][Quote said:
The new 1.6-litre engine is one of a number of all-new petrol units that have been developed by PSA Peugeot Citroen and the BMW Group.
PSA manufactures the components and builds their engines in Douvrin, France — whilst BMW use the same source for components and build their engines for MINI at Hams Hall, near Birmingham.
We have just seen two versions of these new 'co-operative' 1.6-litre petrol units in the new MINI. One is a non-turbo 120bhp unit for the Cooper, and the other is a twin-scroll turbocharger and intercooler 175bhp engine for the latest Cooper S.
Peugeot uses another version of the engine for the 207 GT. This has the same 1.6-litre capacity with a twin-scroll turbocharger but has no intercooler and generates 150bhp.
The forthcoming Peugeot 207 GTi — due next year and scheduled to make its public debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March — will use the same 175bhp unit as the MINI Cooper S.
Next year Peugeot will also replace their own aging 1.6-litre petrol engine with the new PSA/BMW 1.6-litre non-turbo, 120bhp unit as
used for the MINI Cooper. At the same time, Peugeot will offer an automatic transmission option for 207 models fitted with this engine.
[Quote]
Quote from http://www.motorbar.co.uk/207gt.htm, but these are widely know details..
Hope this answers your questions..
I think they offer the choice at the moment, at least in older models, my Mum's 08 308 has the 120bhp 1.6 as found in the MINI Cooper, Peugeot call the engines VTI units, the 1.4VTi(90) Peugeot 207 & 308/Citroen C4/MINI One 1.6VTi(120) Peugeot 207, 308, 3008/Citroen C4/MINI CooperPSA manufactures the components and builds their engines in Douvrin, France — whilst BMW use the same source for components and build their engines for MINI at Hams Hall, near Birmingham.
We have just seen two versions of these new 'co-operative' 1.6-litre petrol units in the new MINI. One is a non-turbo 120bhp unit for the Cooper, and the other is a twin-scroll turbocharger and intercooler 175bhp engine for the latest Cooper S.
Peugeot uses another version of the engine for the 207 GT. This has the same 1.6-litre capacity with a twin-scroll turbocharger but has no intercooler and generates 150bhp.
The forthcoming Peugeot 207 GTi — due next year and scheduled to make its public debut at the Geneva Motor Show in March — will use the same 175bhp unit as the MINI Cooper S.
Next year Peugeot will also replace their own aging 1.6-litre petrol engine with the new PSA/BMW 1.6-litre non-turbo, 120bhp unit as
used for the MINI Cooper. At the same time, Peugeot will offer an automatic transmission option for 207 models fitted with this engine.
[Quote]
Quote from http://www.motorbar.co.uk/207gt.htm, but these are widely know details..
Hope this answers your questions..
Edited by The Loose Goose on Tuesday 14th July 20:50
Edited by Waugh-terfall on Wednesday 15th July 16:18
Should add...
If you can afford it, this is only MINI to have, the new JCW with the (BMW built!) 208 bhp engine (as I said, same engine but the Pug one can't/doesn't deliver this power output!
I have driven all types of cars - mundane to performance - over the years, but imo this is the best 'small'-engined 'production' performance car in the world - nothing touches it! It states top speed at 147mph - it will probably do more.
I have read lots of reviews about this car, many sum up what it's like to drive, but this reviewer has it spot on.
A hot hatch: Try supercar
With a six-speed manual, and perfect gear ratios, swift progress in a JCW is an understatement. Progress is eye-bulgingly rapid and every driving skill you've acquired over the years that makes you an 'above-average' driver goes out the window. In a JCW Mini, you instantly become a hoon, a chav, a freshly-licenced hyperactive teen with ADD. Driving respectfully is almost impossible, because the 6.5secs sprint to 100kph feels like about 2secs in such a small car, and the level of grip through the corners - once you've overpowered the torque steer is astounding.
There is understeer, of course, and lashings of it, but very few cars turn in as instantly and as precisely as the JCW. Depending on 260Nm of torque also makes for brutal highway speeds, as acceleration in top gear from 100kph gets you to 160kph dangerously fast, and is especially perilous to your speeding-fine budget. An M3 is a fast car, a Carrera S is a great car and an Evo X is the best all-rounder we've tried all year, but a Mini JCW uppercuts the lot on value, and then jabs them in the kidneys with its fun factor. But, buy one, and it's bye-bye to your licence.
That's exactly how I feel in mine...
I'd go as far as to say it could see off any car (production wise) on the road.
And do you know what's so really good... it's not losing any of it's value - probably get more!
(should add, still got my - clean - licence, though!)
If you can afford it, this is only MINI to have, the new JCW with the (BMW built!) 208 bhp engine (as I said, same engine but the Pug one can't/doesn't deliver this power output!
I have driven all types of cars - mundane to performance - over the years, but imo this is the best 'small'-engined 'production' performance car in the world - nothing touches it! It states top speed at 147mph - it will probably do more.
I have read lots of reviews about this car, many sum up what it's like to drive, but this reviewer has it spot on.
A hot hatch: Try supercar
With a six-speed manual, and perfect gear ratios, swift progress in a JCW is an understatement. Progress is eye-bulgingly rapid and every driving skill you've acquired over the years that makes you an 'above-average' driver goes out the window. In a JCW Mini, you instantly become a hoon, a chav, a freshly-licenced hyperactive teen with ADD. Driving respectfully is almost impossible, because the 6.5secs sprint to 100kph feels like about 2secs in such a small car, and the level of grip through the corners - once you've overpowered the torque steer is astounding.
There is understeer, of course, and lashings of it, but very few cars turn in as instantly and as precisely as the JCW. Depending on 260Nm of torque also makes for brutal highway speeds, as acceleration in top gear from 100kph gets you to 160kph dangerously fast, and is especially perilous to your speeding-fine budget. An M3 is a fast car, a Carrera S is a great car and an Evo X is the best all-rounder we've tried all year, but a Mini JCW uppercuts the lot on value, and then jabs them in the kidneys with its fun factor. But, buy one, and it's bye-bye to your licence.
That's exactly how I feel in mine...
I'd go as far as to say it could see off any car (production wise) on the road.
And do you know what's so really good... it's not losing any of it's value - probably get more!
(should add, still got my - clean - licence, though!)
Rob. said:
New to this part of the forum so please be gentle!
Girlfriends father is looking at a Mini for his OH and was told by a BMW salesman that some of the engines are Peugeot units? Another told him they were all BMW units which I thought was correct. Could someone clarify who makes which engines in the range please?
Thanks in advance.
Notwithstanding that he is getting at least partway near the reality, something tells me that first blokey isn't going to last long in a BMW / MINI Dealership Girlfriends father is looking at a Mini for his OH and was told by a BMW salesman that some of the engines are Peugeot units? Another told him they were all BMW units which I thought was correct. Could someone clarify who makes which engines in the range please?
Thanks in advance.
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