The Running Thread Vol 2

[fiatpower]

tim2100 said:

I am really struggling with post-marathon blues. Anybody else get this?

I 'ran' Manchester Marathon on Sunday. Despite a few injuries my training went pretty well and my speed and endurance have been fantastic at the moment. Including taking over 90 seconds off my parkrun time.

4 weeks prior to the marathon I had a back injury, which when it went ended up being a really painful hip problem, however it didn't stop me running. with my 2nd fastest parkrun time (taking it easy) the day before Manchester.

I was aiming for a sub 4hr. ideally around 3:50. Went out comfortably running at 5:15 per km which would have given me a time cushion for when my pace inevitably dropped towards the end of 26.2. However after mile 15 my hip had become agony and i had to run / walk and then mostly walk to finish ending up with 4:15 (still a 14 minute marathon PB), but barely able to walk at the end.

I should be really happy with this marathon time but I cannot help to feel I have let this opportunity go so i am really pissed off about the whole but cannot get myself out of this slump.

Maybe look for a marathon in 2 - 3 months. You've got most of the fitness there now. Get the hip right and use the training you've done to date to get the sub 4.

Do you know why your hip hurt?

[joshcowin]

tim2100 said:

I am really struggling with post-marathon blues. Anybody else get this?

I 'ran' Manchester Marathon on Sunday. Despite a few injuries my training went pretty well and my speed and endurance have been fantastic at the moment. Including taking over 90 seconds off my parkrun time.

4 weeks prior to the marathon I had a back injury, which when it went ended up being a really painful hip problem, however it didn't stop me running. with my 2nd fastest parkrun time (taking it easy) the day before Manchester.

I was aiming for a sub 4hr. ideally around 3:50. Went out comfortably running at 5:15 per km which would have given me a time cushion for when my pace inevitably dropped towards the end of 26.2. However after mile 15 my hip had become agony and i had to run / walk and then mostly walk to finish ending up with 4:15 (still a 14 minute marathon PB), but barely able to walk at the end.

I should be really happy with this marathon time but I cannot help to feel I have let this opportunity go so i am really pissed off about the whole but cannot get myself out of this slump.

First well done on finishing, that must have been really tough mentally!

Make a plan of how you are going to recover from the injury then how you are going to get quicker.

[smn159]

Picked up my race pack from the Excel this afternoon, so all set for London now.

[tim2100]

fiatpower said:

Maybe look for a marathon in 2 - 3 months. You've got most of the fitness there now. Get the hip right and use the training you've done to date to get the sub 4.

Do you know why your hip hurt?

I am now on a training plan for a 70.3 triathlon in July, to take advantage of the training. Good idea to look at another though.

No idea what has happened. It started with a bank sprain last month, but then 'moved' onto my hip. Osteopath has looked but doesn't seem concerned about it, so hopefully just muscular.

joshcowin said:

First well done on finishing, that must have been really tough mentally!

Make a plan of how you are going to recover from the injury then how you are going to get quicker.

Thank you. current plan is a week and half off running, just Gym / cycle / swim and then a weekend in the lakedistrict.

Edited by tim2100 on Thursday 20th April 09:32

[MesoForm]

First race of 2023 for me last night - a 5 mile race along the promenade in Great Yarmouth. Snuck in under 42 minutes which is fine, but as it's a 3 race series I'll see if I can get that under 40 minutes in 4 weeks time... Was really windy last night so it might be possible and I've got a 10k and 10 mile race coming up before the last one (yes, I went a bit race-entry happy) so who knows what the extra distance will do.
5 mile is a fun race distance that I've never done before, not that common (and doesn't have a PB slot on Strava :/ ) but being more than the "long effort" of a 5k and not needing as much prep as a 10k it's something I'll be looking out for a bit more in the future.

[joshcowin]

smn159 said:

Picked up my race pack from the Excel this afternoon, so all set for London now.

What's the aim?

[smn159]

joshcowin said:

smn159 said:

Picked up my race pack from the Excel this afternoon, so all set for London now.

What's the aim?

Still prevaricating. Trained for 3:30, which should just be achievable on a good day, but missed a chunk of training with the flu and then injury. My current pacing plan comes out at 3:42 so likely to go with that. Got an ongoing toe issue that may or may not cause a problem on the day, but planning for success!

[joshcowin]

smn159 said:

Still prevaricating. Trained for 3:30, which should just be achievable on a good day, but missed a chunk of training with the flu and then injury. My current pacing plan comes out at 3:42 so likely to go with that. Got an ongoing toe issue that may or may not cause a problem on the day, but planning for success!

All the best mate! Hope the toe holds up! Let us know how you got on!

[smn159]

joshcowin said:

smn159 said:

Still prevaricating. Trained for 3:30, which should just be achievable on a good day, but missed a chunk of training with the flu and then injury. My current pacing plan comes out at 3:42 so likely to go with that. Got an ongoing toe issue that may or may not cause a problem on the day, but planning for success!

All the best mate! Hope the toe holds up! Let us know how you got on!

Thanks - will do

[boholoblanka]

First Half Marathon of the year done over lunch. 1 hour 52 mins ave pace 5.19 per/km. will take that.

[joshcowin]

boholoblanka said:

First Half Marathon of the year done over lunch. 1 hour 52 mins ave pace 5.19 per/km. will take that.

Nice running!

[Randy Winkman]

I guess that anyone taking part in the LM is there on the line and ready to go - but anyway, good luck.

[Inspire]

I hope it’s all gone well for people today. The weather looks to have been kind.

The ballot for 2024 is open until Friday. Link here:

https://www.tcslondonmarathon.com/enter/how-to-ent...

Thanks

Rob

[Muzzer79]

What a run from Sifan Hassan in the women’s elite race

First official marathon

Stopped twice for a few seconds at around the hour mark to stretch out and deal with a niggle

Kept missing feed stations

Caught back up to the leaders

Outkicked them all to win

Coming into The Mall with the top three all in a group was great stuff

Awesome run from Kiptum in the men’s too

[Austin_Metro]

Although it’s London marathon day, I’m thinking about doing my first half marathon.

I normally run 20 to 25 km a week. Usually a couple of ten and a bit k runs. Occasionally a park run with a top up either side to make 10k. I struggle to fit anything more in.

I’m late 40s, run sub 50 for 10k, and I’m 22 and a bit mins for 5k. Built more like a maxi, than a metro though.

I’ve often got injured soon after doing 14k plus, when moving to that slightly longer distance. But have upped my stretching and that seems to have helped.

I’m not planning to enter a race, just up my distance to 14, 16, 18k and then slip in a 21km one day.

Any thoughts on my plan … I don’t want to end up injured and out for 3 months … and in particular on “fuelling” don’t bother for 14km.

Thanks, Austin.

[grumbledoak]

Austin_Metro said:

Although it’s London marathon day, I’m thinking about doing my first half marathon.

I normally run 20 to 25 km a week. Usually a couple of ten and a bit k runs. Occasionally a park run with a top up either side to make 10k. I struggle to fit anything more in.

I’m late 40s, run sub 50 for 10k, and I’m 22 and a bit mins for 5k. Built more like a maxi, than a metro though.

I’ve often got injured soon after doing 14k plus, when moving to that slightly longer distance. But have upped my stretching and that seems to have helped.

I’m not planning to enter a race, just up my distance to 14, 16, 18k and then slip in a 21km one day.

Any thoughts on my plan … I don’t want to end up injured and out for 3 months … and in particular on “fuelling” don’t bother for 14km.

Thanks, Austin.

That was me a year or two ago. I've done several halfs since.

It's perfectly achievable. I would book myself a nice little half marathon and get a little medal for it.

No real need to "fuel" for a half, especially given your aim is "finish".

[ch37]

What sort of injuries are we talking about beyond 14k? My knees couldn't cope with long distance road events but I then went and did 30k off-road without any drama. Since then I moved fully to trail events and touch wood it seemed to have solved any issues. It does mean hills (867m of ascent on Saturday, that was a little extreme), but although I hate them at that time I tell myself they're probably good for me!

[Otispunkmeyer]

ch37 said:

What sort of injuries are we talking about beyond 14k? My knees couldn't cope with long distance road events but I then went and did 30k off-road without any drama. Since then I moved fully to trail events and touch wood it seemed to have solved any issues. It does mean hills (867m of ascent on Saturday, that was a little extreme), but although I hate them at that time I tell myself they're probably good for me!

I'm looking at, I think, the Erewash canal half which is run down the canal paths in long Eaton. So mostly flat and a bit of softer ground to run on. Though it's going to be bang in the height of summer....

[Gargamel]

Muzzer79 said:

What a run from Sifan Hassan in the women’s elite race

First official marathon

Stopped twice for a few seconds at around the hour mark to stretch out and deal with a niggle

Kept missing feed stations

Caught back up to the leaders

Outkicked them all to win

Coming into The Mall with the top three all in a group was great stuff

Awesome run from Kiptum in the men’s too

Was a deeply impressive performance. With a little more experience, better pacers and the right conditions the Womens record is under serious threat from Hassan. She made it past a top class field (last years winner and the Olympic Champ) so it was really something special.

[Austin_Metro]

ch37 said:

What sort of injuries are we talking about beyond 14k? My knees couldn't cope with long distance road events but I then went and did 30k off-road without any drama. Since then I moved fully to trail events and touch wood it seemed to have solved any issues. It does mean hills (867m of ascent on Saturday, that was a little extreme), but although I hate them at that time I tell myself they're probably good for me!

Thanks for all the replies.

Managed to do both Achilles tendons after one muddy 14k, that took a while to fix, but I now stretch before and after every run.

Had pain in the bones of my feet - but like plantar but wasn’t - podiatrist sorted out custom insoles which I think help.

Got shin splints - seems to have gone … so it’s just niggly stuff.

My right knee is not great … so Off road sounds like a reasonable idea …

On fuelling, nowt at all?!