'Cycling' cafe owner launches raod rage attack at cyclist
Discussion
RemyMartin said:
p1stonhead said:
The fact that these days a personal argument between two people can potentially ruin someones business due to one person filming it and putting it online is not a great situation is it?
The driver was a t
t but the cyclist was too.
I love that fact. The driver was a t
t but the cyclist was too.Actions and consequences. I hope he goes bust!
All because a cyclist didn't simply brake to avoid a car that was a tad too close for comfort?
I'm not saying the cyclist is at fault here, but if he simply hit the brake a touch and held back he could have avoided it all. Or simply take the incident on the chin and show the footage to his mates while laughing at the bloke down the pub?
Instead he decides to make as much fuss as possible without thinking about his own actions (bit like the LR driver in the first place) he potentially will cause another fellow human financial ruin. All for what? his 15 mins of internet fame? Pathetic.
What makes you think its one moment, especially when, as you say, all it took was a cyclist to not dab a brake?
How do you know that he won't do far worse next time? Whats he going to do next time a road user makes a genuine error in front of him?
He needs to be banned until he can show he has his anger under control.
How do you know that he won't do far worse next time? Whats he going to do next time a road user makes a genuine error in front of him?
He needs to be banned until he can show he has his anger under control.
spats said:
Are you really saying you hope from a single moment of madness...
It's never a "single moment of madness" though. Nasty people with nasty attitudes get by in life with others covering up and making excuses for them, or they lose the plot away from cameras and independent witnesses and get away with it. Only this time, he didn't get away with it, and his nasty, spiteful "personality" has outed itself.It's like when "otherwise law abiding citizens" get drunk and beat other people up. Alcohol doesn't alter a personality, it simply reduces inhibitions. I saw it a lot in the military. Genuine nice blokes get smashed, and fall asleep, or want to hug everyone and sing Karaoke. Nutters get pissed and want to smash some random stranger's face into a wall. Why? because that's the kind of person they are, they just hide it well enough (those pesky inhibitions again) whilst sober that they can function in a civilised society.
Looking at Mr Brew's face during that clip leads me to believe that he's an unpleasant piece of work, who under normal circumstances can conceal his nasty streak in order to function as a business owner and member of society. Who knows why he lost it that day? Maybe he'd had some bad news, maybe his wife had left him for someone packing more heat? It doesn't matter, because no matter what the circumstances, the conventions of society and the laws by which we consent to be governed preclude this kind of aggression from becoming acceptable. The more times he gets away with low-level thuggery, the more likely he is to move up a league. I've met his sort before, and gave one of them a valuable lesson once. It only took one challenge to his thuggery to bring about a change in his behaviour, maybe the same will be true of 'Mr Brew'?
yellowjack said:
It's never a "single moment of madness" though. Nasty people with nasty attitudes get by in life with others covering up and making excuses for them, or they lose the plot away from cameras and independent witnesses and get away with it. Only this time, he didn't get away with it, and his nasty, spiteful "personality" has outed itself.
It's like when "otherwise law abiding citizens" get drunk and beat other people up. Alcohol doesn't alter a personality, it simply reduces inhibitions. I saw it a lot in the military. Genuine nice blokes get smashed, and fall asleep, or want to hug everyone and sing Karaoke. Nutters get pissed and want to smash some random stranger's face into a wall. Why? because that's the kind of person they are, they just hide it well enough (those pesky inhibitions again) whilst sober that they can function in a civilised society.
Looking at Mr Brew's face during that clip leads me to believe that he's an unpleasant piece of work, who under normal circumstances can conceal his nasty streak in order to function as a business owner and member of society. Who knows why he lost it that day? Maybe he'd had some bad news, maybe his wife had left him for someone packing more heat? It doesn't matter, because no matter what the circumstances, the conventions of society and the laws by which we consent to be governed preclude this kind of aggression from becoming acceptable. The more times he gets away with low-level thuggery, the more likely he is to move up a league. I've met his sort before, and gave one of them a valuable lesson once. It only took one challenge to his thuggery to bring about a change in his behaviour, maybe the same will be true of 'Mr Brew'?
But still my point stands, whether it was a one off, or the fact is he's a total grade A cock socket, the internet shouldn't be personally attacking him, digging into his past and posting pictures up for everyone to see.It's like when "otherwise law abiding citizens" get drunk and beat other people up. Alcohol doesn't alter a personality, it simply reduces inhibitions. I saw it a lot in the military. Genuine nice blokes get smashed, and fall asleep, or want to hug everyone and sing Karaoke. Nutters get pissed and want to smash some random stranger's face into a wall. Why? because that's the kind of person they are, they just hide it well enough (those pesky inhibitions again) whilst sober that they can function in a civilised society.
Looking at Mr Brew's face during that clip leads me to believe that he's an unpleasant piece of work, who under normal circumstances can conceal his nasty streak in order to function as a business owner and member of society. Who knows why he lost it that day? Maybe he'd had some bad news, maybe his wife had left him for someone packing more heat? It doesn't matter, because no matter what the circumstances, the conventions of society and the laws by which we consent to be governed preclude this kind of aggression from becoming acceptable. The more times he gets away with low-level thuggery, the more likely he is to move up a league. I've met his sort before, and gave one of them a valuable lesson once. It only took one challenge to his thuggery to bring about a change in his behaviour, maybe the same will be true of 'Mr Brew'?
The cyclist wasn't helping things stay calm and was just as mental sounding at some points. As has been pointed out the guy trying to calm them both looked like he was going to get a thump for either cyclist or LR driver!
I'm also not saying the LR driver should be allowed to get away with it, the cyclist had footage and could have got statements from witnesses and taken it to the police. But instead he puts it online and enjoys his 15 mins of internet fame. Meanwhile a persons life is picked apart by people sat at their keyboards who have nothing better to do nor actually have anything to do with the incident.
spats said:
But still my point stands, whether it was a one off, or the fact is he's a total grade A cock socket, the internet shouldn't be personally attacking him, digging into his past and posting pictures up for everyone to see.
The cyclist wasn't helping things stay calm and was just as mental sounding at some points. As has been pointed out the guy trying to calm them both looked like he was going to get a thump for either cyclist or LR driver!
I'm also not saying the LR driver should be allowed to get away with it, the cyclist had footage and could have got statements from witnesses and taken it to the police. But instead he puts it online and enjoys his 15 mins of internet fame. Meanwhile a persons life is picked apart by people sat at their keyboards who have nothing better to do nor actually have anything to do with the incident.
15 minutes of fame? He's anonymous. The cyclist wasn't helping things stay calm and was just as mental sounding at some points. As has been pointed out the guy trying to calm them both looked like he was going to get a thump for either cyclist or LR driver!
I'm also not saying the LR driver should be allowed to get away with it, the cyclist had footage and could have got statements from witnesses and taken it to the police. But instead he puts it online and enjoys his 15 mins of internet fame. Meanwhile a persons life is picked apart by people sat at their keyboards who have nothing better to do nor actually have anything to do with the incident.
The police have been involved and have done nothing regarding his using his vehicle as a weapon or for blocking the road off.
The bloke is mental and is in charge of 2 tonnes of machinery. Why wouldn't people get involved, before he kills somebody?
heebeegeetee said:
15 minutes of fame? He's anonymous.
The police have been involved and have done nothing regarding his using his vehicle as a weapon or for blocking the road off.
The bloke is mental and is in charge of 2 tonnes of machinery. Why wouldn't people get involved, before he kills somebody?
So the cyclist isn't even stepping up himself? says more about him really. If the police have done nothing, maybe that should of been the end of it? If everyone takes the law into their own hands where does that land us. The police have been involved and have done nothing regarding his using his vehicle as a weapon or for blocking the road off.
The bloke is mental and is in charge of 2 tonnes of machinery. Why wouldn't people get involved, before he kills somebody?
The people that aren't involved in this but are enjoying ripping this bloke apart are in the wrong now. Approaching cyber bullying really. Sat safe behind their keyboards potentially destroying a business over a spat on a road. NO one was hurt during the incident, but now the internet is hurting this guy, and his family, and what about the people that work for him?
Are you really going to defend the attack that could leave totally innocent people out of work? Could be extreme I realise, but some people seem to really want that to happen, and that's more mental than even Mr LR driver can muster!
Pachydermus said:
If he'd walked down a busy street lunging at people with a knife would you be saying the same thing? If not then what is the difference?
Still wondering how it would be fair and just to attack this persons business, costing totally innocent people their jobs?Put the boot on the other shoe. Your boss is the LR driver. Due to the keyboard bullies digging up the fact he has a small member and the damage done to the business hes having to close the office and you loose your job. Still fair by the cyclist?
spats said:
Are you really saying you hope from a single moment of madness that the LR driver should be publically humiliated, have people hunt him down on the internet, post pictures up of his house and have his business fail which would not only effect him, but his family, his employees and god knows who else?
All because a cyclist didn't simply brake to avoid a car that was a tad too close for comfort?
I'm not saying the cyclist is at fault here, but if he simply hit the brake a touch and held back he could have avoided it all. Or simply take the incident on the chin and show the footage to his mates while laughing at the bloke down the pub?
Instead he decides to make as much fuss as possible without thinking about his own actions (bit like the LR driver in the first place) he potentially will cause another fellow human financial ruin. All for what? his 15 mins of internet fame? Pathetic.
The cyclist might well have been able to avoid the confrontation, but let's face it, any man with a penis as small as that of the driver was always likely to end up in a situation like this, the poor chap.All because a cyclist didn't simply brake to avoid a car that was a tad too close for comfort?
I'm not saying the cyclist is at fault here, but if he simply hit the brake a touch and held back he could have avoided it all. Or simply take the incident on the chin and show the footage to his mates while laughing at the bloke down the pub?
Instead he decides to make as much fuss as possible without thinking about his own actions (bit like the LR driver in the first place) he potentially will cause another fellow human financial ruin. All for what? his 15 mins of internet fame? Pathetic.
spats said:
Still wondering how it would be fair and just to attack this persons business, costing totally innocent people their jobs?
Put the boot on the other shoe. Your boss is the LR driver. Due to the keyboard bullies digging up the fact he has a small member and the damage done to the business hes having to close the office and you loose your job. Still fair by the cyclist?
I don't have a problem with it at all. His behaviour was extreme, and he shouldn't be driving, its as simple as that. I'd like him stopped before he hurts someone, and other similar people need to know that bullying with your 4x4 and screaming at people (over nothing) can get you into serious trouble now. Put the boot on the other shoe. Your boss is the LR driver. Due to the keyboard bullies digging up the fact he has a small member and the damage done to the business hes having to close the office and you loose your job. Still fair by the cyclist?
His business probably would have been fine had the police taken action.
spats said:
Pachydermus said:
If he'd walked down a busy street lunging at people with a knife would you be saying the same thing? If not then what is the difference?
Still wondering how it would be fair and just to attack this persons business, costing totally innocent people their jobs?Put the boot on the other shoe. Your boss is the LR driver. Due to the keyboard bullies digging up the fact he has a small member and the damage done to the business hes having to close the office and you loose your job. Still fair by the cyclist?
He made direct and specific threats to kill. "Cut your throat, push your teeth down your throat, I will kill you. Etc"
I am still unsure if the cyclist hit his mirror, or the driver pulled in sufficiently into the cyclist space so that contact was made. - Don't know.
Agree the cyclist is absolutely as bad, with the hysterical shrieking and language.
No one looks good here, but the trial by social media thing can be easily avoided, by not being a tool.
I am reminded of the wool shop owner and the parking incident in Bath....
heebeegeetee said:
I don't have a problem with it at all. His behaviour was extreme, and he shouldn't be driving, its as simple as that. I'd like him stopped before he hurts someone, and other similar people need to know that bullying with your 4x4 and screaming at people (over nothing) can get you into serious trouble now.
His business probably would have been fine had the police taken action.
Yes his behaviour was extreme, and so was the cyclists. He wasn't a saint during the incident was he? Now hes could be responsible for the fall of another bloke livelihood, I hope its worth it.His business probably would have been fine had the police taken action.
Pachydermus said:
if my boss had acted like that I'd expect him to be sacked. If it was his company then I wouldn't want to have anything to do with it.
That's fine if you can afford to choose to do that, but hardly fair if you cant. The cyclist has effectively started a hate campaign whether he wanted to or not, which has far wider effects than a skirmish at the side of the road which should have ended there.Gargamel said:
He made direct and specific threats to kill. "Cut your throat, push your teeth down your throat, I will kill you. Etc"
I am still unsure if the cyclist hit his mirror, or the driver pulled in sufficiently into the cyclist space so that contact was made. - Don't know.
Agree the cyclist is absolutely as bad, with the hysterical shrieking and language.
No one looks good here, but the trial by social media thing can be easily avoided, by not being a tool.
I am reminded of the wool shop owner and the parking incident in Bath....
Lets be clear, I totally believe the LR driver was a total tool. The cyclist did not help matters at all, and imoa came out looking quite silly too but clearly not to the levels of the LR driver.I am still unsure if the cyclist hit his mirror, or the driver pulled in sufficiently into the cyclist space so that contact was made. - Don't know.
Agree the cyclist is absolutely as bad, with the hysterical shrieking and language.
No one looks good here, but the trial by social media thing can be easily avoided, by not being a tool.
I am reminded of the wool shop owner and the parking incident in Bath....
My sole issue is why is it now appropriate to delve into a strangers life in such a way to effect his business, his family and cause him far more damage than the incident did in the first place?
I have no issue shaming the LR driver by showing the video, but when did this cyber hate become acceptable? I've watched the video, and made a judgement from that, is that not enough? I certainly don't find it acceptable that its fine to dig out pictures of his todger and post it up when it has zero to do with anyone or anything.
Its a sad sad world if that's the norm now....
spats said:
Meanwhile a persons life is picked apart by people sat at their keyboards who have nothing better to do nor actually have anything to do with the incident.
Sorry... but if you go around threatening to kill people, driving like a berk ... while posting pictures of your tiny cock on twitter ( for the general public to view (( i don't think anyone stole these images from his personal com-putting device )) ) while running a business wearing a gimp-suit , well expect some interest if you get caught acting like that . Regards having nothing better to do, maybe people are sick to death of prats like this while out enjoying a bike ride.Have you even watched the video ? do you think thats normal behaviour ??, do you really think he's never ever ever done this before? ever..
Regards Brew cafe, his wife/biz partner can run it without him no problem ( its a cake shop FFS ) , and going on the reports from staff members , seems a better choice.
If you feel so upset, maybe go and work for the poor victim? selling cakes and making tea?
Edited by superkartracer on Wednesday 3rd June 16:51
superkartracer said:
Sorry... but if you go around threatening to kill people, driving like a berk ... while posting pictures of your tiny cock on twitter ( for the general public to view ) while running a business wearing a gimp-suit, well expect some interest if you get caught acting like that . Regards having nothing better to do, maybe people are sick to death of prats like this while out enjoying a bike ride.
Have you even watched the video ? do you think thats normal behaviour ??, do you really think he's never ever ever done this before? ever..
Regards Brew cafe, his wife/biz partner can run it without him, and going on the reports from staff members , seems a better choice.
If you feel so upset, maybe go and work of the poor victim?
See my previous post, the blokes got issues clearly. Im not defending him in the slightest! I also don't feel upset for him either, I'm just concerned people are far too quick to go the extra mile hoping his business goes under without thinking of the other innocent people it will effect. No ones hoping Alton Towers shuts for good even though 4 people have been hurt on their rides. Whereas one cyclist gets riles up a mental and suddenly its a free for all for anyone whos had anything to do with him?Have you even watched the video ? do you think thats normal behaviour ??, do you really think he's never ever ever done this before? ever..
Regards Brew cafe, his wife/biz partner can run it without him, and going on the reports from staff members , seems a better choice.
If you feel so upset, maybe go and work of the poor victim?
spats said:
See my previous post, the blokes got issues clearly. Im not defending him in the slightest! I also don't feel upset for him either, I'm just concerned people are far too quick to go the extra mile hoping his business goes under without thinking of the other innocent people it will effect. No ones hoping Alton Towers shuts for good even though 4 people have been hurt on their rides. Whereas one cyclist gets riles up a mental and suddenly its a free for all for anyone whos had anything to do with him?
I don't hope his business goes under, but if it does, it's entirely his own fault.superkartracer said:
Doubt anyone wants his business to go down, but the man can't go around acting like that, and defo needs to stop posting images of his cock.
Agreed! Its almost as bad as that ebay auction where the guy took a picture of his highly polished kettle while in the buff.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff