Car and cyclist meet

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FourGears

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Tuesday 8th November 2022
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https://twitter.com/azb2019/status/158845631742937...

Apologies if this has already been posted.

But crikey the driver should have come to a stop and the dad should have told his kid to stop.

Cyclist has right of way as already overtaking parked cars?

FourGears

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super7 said:
But.... if I was that Dad, my 5 year old son would be nowhere near any of those cars!!
I agree . Absolutely bonkers I thought

FourGears

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Tuesday 15th November 2022
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bobbo89 said:
The Focus should have slowed and or stopped. Do they want to run over a child?

The dad should have listened to his kid. Does he want his child run over.

The kids great the dad and driver are pillocks

FourGears

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Tuesday 15th November 2022
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Bonefish Blues said:
Well balanced assessment

FourGears

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Julian Scott said:
You are right, no question. But the victim mentality is matched at least pound-for-pound by the entitlement mentality by some drivers.

Alas, the latter is more dangerous and has far greater chance to cause serious injury or death.

FWIW, I'm an avid cyclist that abhors the superiority complex some cyclist possess - often the helmet-cam brigade - but whilst they are a pathetic annoyance, the aggression mixed with dire driving we see on the roads is the aspect that is dangerous.

I did a 120km loop on Sunday, all on quiet roads. I got almost knocked off twice (my having to take immediate evasive action to avoid it) - both times I caught up with the driver, both times the driver simply hadn't seen me (and my 3 friends) - all friendlily addressed and apologised, but it does demonstrate the danger on the road.
I wonder what thr solution is to stop the driver and cyclist stand off?

I do get frustrated with cyclists at times as an example we were driving along a national speed limit country road and came across a cyclist. Now I was well under the limit and saw him well in advance. If I had rounded a corner at 60 and he was in front that would have been quite nasty.

Also I had the pleasure of following him at 15mph for a few miles as he didn't want to slow down at some of the passing points so I could overtake him. I was surprised by that as a little swere to the left a quick dab on the brakes and I would have been past. Perhaps he felt safer with a car behind him?


FourGears

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Wednesday 16th November 2022
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Julian Scott said:
SteveStrange said:
Julian Scott said:
FourGears said:
Julian Scott said:
You are right, no question. But the victim mentality is matched at least pound-for-pound by the entitlement mentality by some drivers.

Alas, the latter is more dangerous and has far greater chance to cause serious injury or death.

FWIW, I'm an avid cyclist that abhors the superiority complex some cyclist possess - often the helmet-cam brigade - but whilst they are a pathetic annoyance, the aggression mixed with dire driving we see on the roads is the aspect that is dangerous.

I did a 120km loop on Sunday, all on quiet roads. I got almost knocked off twice (my having to take immediate evasive action to avoid it) - both times I caught up with the driver, both times the driver simply hadn't seen me (and my 3 friends) - all friendlily addressed and apologised, but it does demonstrate the danger on the road.
I wonder what thr solution is to stop the driver and cyclist stand off?

I do get frustrated with cyclists at times as an example we were driving along a national speed limit country road and came across a cyclist. Now I was well under the limit and saw him well in advance. If I had rounded a corner at 60 and he was in front that would have been quite nasty.

Also I had the pleasure of following him at 15mph for a few miles as he didn't want to slow down at some of the passing points so I could overtake him. I was surprised by that as a little swere to the left a quick dab on the brakes and I would have been past. Perhaps he felt safer with a car behind him?
Two small points. If you'd rounded a corner, you have adjusted your speed to be able to stop in the distance you could see. What if around this mystical blind corner on a NSL road there has been a stationary truck. Or ambulance tending to an RTA?

Secondly, you followed the cyclist at 15mph for 'a few miles'? Really?? You wilfully sat behind a cyclist for over 12 minutes, with no opportunity to overtake on a road safe enough to be a 60/NSL? And a 60 limit/NSL road with passing places? Really?

I appreciate that your journey was more important, and that he should have therefore broken his cadence and effort to allow you past - but maybe he thought you would have the driver skill to pass a slow moving cyclist on a NSL single carriageway road, unless you were drivng a steam-roller?
Why are all the pro-cycling gang always so supercilious? Do you think using such condescending language helps your case?

And regarding the overtake, if the cyclist has adopted the "primary position" then they can pretty much dictate when someone can overtake, by removing/minimising the required 1.5m gap the responsible motorist is obliged to leave. Unless you're suggesting this gap should be reduced at will?
It was sarcasm....the suggestion that the cyclist should have pulled in to let the driver past, and the anger that they didn't deserves sarcasm.

If..IF...IF...still dosen't explain how and why a driver would wilfully stay behind a cyclist for over 12 minutes on a road suitable to be a NSL/60 limit road.
Hello sorry had not realised there had been replies.

It was a country lane so only wide enough for 1 vehicle aside from the odd spots where you can pull in to let another car past coming the opposite way.

Edit: i see my error from the previous post where I said road instead of lane. Apologies for the mis-description


Edited by FourGears on Wednesday 16th November 13:40

FourGears

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Wednesday 16th November 2022
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Loads of country lanes near me are narrow enough to warrant passing places, ie a single car width wide, but are also NSL. As NSL is the default limit.

On those lanes I’ll be riding in primary because the road is too narrow for any vehicle to overtake me safely. And I’ll decide when it’s safe for them to come past. Wouldn’t willing ride past a load of passing places though the best place for a car is in front of me where I can see it.

You get the odd dhead who comes screaming up behind at 60 ‘because NSL’ but fk ‘em. I’ve got radar so I know they’re coming and there’s a camera on the back of the bike.
Perhaps that's the answer. The rider I met did not deem it safe for me to overtake?