Apprentices and training for post 24 yr old's
Discussion
I am currently researching alternative career paths and am particularly interested in the trades.
However, looking around, I only see college apprenticeships available for 16-24yr olds.
Does anyone have any experience of learning a trade post 24 and how it can be done?
ETA - It appears you can do it but have to fund it yourself?
However, looking around, I only see college apprenticeships available for 16-24yr olds.
Does anyone have any experience of learning a trade post 24 and how it can be done?
ETA - It appears you can do it but have to fund it yourself?
Edited by Gravy on Sunday 19th April 17:07
There is nothing from stopping you from taking up a new Apprenticeship.
Go to http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/
You'll have to register to be able to apply for the vacancies posted.
You wont qualify for funding from the LSC but if you get in touch with the Learning Provider ( College, training centre ) that is posting the advert they will be able to point you to your local authority and may be able to provide you with some funding.
also try LearnDirect.
HTH
Good luck
Go to http://www.apprenticeships.org.uk/
You'll have to register to be able to apply for the vacancies posted.
You wont qualify for funding from the LSC but if you get in touch with the Learning Provider ( College, training centre ) that is posting the advert they will be able to point you to your local authority and may be able to provide you with some funding.
also try LearnDirect.
HTH
Good luck
jeoff82 said:
nascarrules; im 26 and want to learn electrical installation but didnt think apprenticeships were an option for me so im going to do a advanced BTEC in electrical installation and eventually 17th wiring regs, any comments on this course?
My apprenticeship is spread across 4 years. We follow this structure:Year 1: 5 days a week at college, 1 day spent on BTEC National Award in Manufacturing Engineering, other 4 days spent doing practical work,
i.e. 1st day was domestic electrical installation and testing.
2nd day electronics i.e. designing and building circuits using soldering irons and testing with multimeters and oscilloscopes.
3rd day was fitting work.
4th day was welding.
We also used to spend time doing Performing Engineering Operations NVQ Level 2 which involved questions and answers. Also had to do key skills in communication.
Year 2: Day release to college 1 day a week to continue on with the BTEC National Award in Manufacturing Engineering. Also started Performing Engineering Operations NVQ Level 3 at work. This involves having different units on regulations, using drawings and documents, handing over on completing of maintnenance activities, fault diagnosis on mechanical and electrical equipment, maintaining electrical equipment, modifying and rewiring, testing and carrying out planned maintenance.
Year 3: Day release to college 1 day a week for HNC in Manufacturing Engineering. Continue on with Performing Engineering Operations NVQ Level 3.
Year 4: Same as Year 3
This results in me getting a modern apprenticeship. We dont do the 17th edition or part p because we only work on the employees site doing breakdown and planned maintenance work, there are possible plans for us to do the 17th edition.
A local college would be the best place to start for help on courses. At our college companies looking to recruit generally asked college tutors if there were people who were interested in an apprenticeship, companies also stuck job adverts up for apprentices at college.
I realise you might think your too old for an apprenticeship but they are good if your keen and have someone good to teach you.
Hope this helps and all the best.
From our very rubbish website FAQ's....
Do I have to pay anything to become an apprentice?
No. Whilst you are on an Apprenticeship, your employer pays you a salary and supports you whilst you undertake your training - much of which is in the work place but some of which may take place with a training provider.
The Learning and Skills Council (LSC) will pay the full cost of your training if you are aged 16 - 18. Your employer may be expected to contribute to your training cost if you are older.
Do I have to pay anything to become an apprentice?
No. Whilst you are on an Apprenticeship, your employer pays you a salary and supports you whilst you undertake your training - much of which is in the work place but some of which may take place with a training provider.
The Learning and Skills Council (LSC) will pay the full cost of your training if you are aged 16 - 18. Your employer may be expected to contribute to your training cost if you are older.
jeoff82 said:
Just been researching on the internet and it seems that even if you go down the route of paying for yourself to get qualified yet dont have any working experience you will find it hard to get a job with a company.
I'm not sure how you intended that to be taken, but thats always been the case and true of almost every qualification and more so for the hands on engineering/tecky jobs.It's no good being able to talk the talk if you've never even tried walking the walk.
Try running away to sea.
The Merchant Navy Training Board site has details of all the UK companies offering cadetships for school leavers, mature entrants, undergrads and postgrads. You get paid a (shite) wage while you're a cadet, but after qualifying you can get promoted and be earning quite a lot v.quick(if you're deepsea, you don't pay tax; get extra money and give Alistair Darling the finger at the same time!), and most things are paid for by the training company.
The Merchant Navy Training Board site has details of all the UK companies offering cadetships for school leavers, mature entrants, undergrads and postgrads. You get paid a (shite) wage while you're a cadet, but after qualifying you can get promoted and be earning quite a lot v.quick(if you're deepsea, you don't pay tax; get extra money and give Alistair Darling the finger at the same time!), and most things are paid for by the training company.
Edited by hidetheelephants on Thursday 21st May 00:52
jeoff82 said:
Just been researching on the internet and it seems that even if you go down the route of paying for yourself to get qualified yet dont have any working experience you will find it hard to get a job with a company.
http://www.jib.org.uk/hlw080910.htmWAGES 2009
From and including 5th January 2009 the JIB hourly rates for Job Employed operatives shall be:
(i) National Standard Rates (exc london rates)
Transport Provided / Own Transport
Electrician £11.86/ £12.60
Electrical Improver £10.67/ £11.35
Labourer £9.42/ £10.11
Senior Graded Electrical Trainee £10.67/ £11.35
Adult Trainee £9.42/ £10.11
Training can be done to some level before you try for a job- certainally in contracting you would find it harder to get a job with no practical experience
Quite a few of the labourers where I work now ( well till I'm made redundant in two weeks) have gone back to college at night to gain the qualifications
although jtl provide the main of the training for electrical contractor apprenticeships I'm not sure what they do with adult learners, might be worth an email to see if they can point you in the right direction of the training providers if this is what you are thinking about doing
http://www.jtltraining.com/youngpeople/home.php
eta link
Edited by Brite spark on Thursday 21st May 18:53
http://www.opito.com/index.php?option=com_content&...
http://www.ecitb.org.uk/
something a bit different if you fancy it?
http://www.ecitb.org.uk/
something a bit different if you fancy it?
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