Cool Apollo photographs
Discussion
Parrot of Doom said:
I put this on a 'Lounge' thread, but probably better here. Hubble piccies, including the 'Deep Field':http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/hubble_sp...
The Boston Globe 'Big Picture' is one of my favourite sites, I could look through the pics for hours and hours.....
Awesome, the height of human endeavour to date. For some reason we seem to have lost the will to be bold and daring as a race and as a result we have yet to capitalise on what was learned in a very short period of time 40 years ago.
I wasn't even born when this happened or indeed for some time after, but it still gives me chills to think that we did this, despite the danger, the costs, the engineering difficulties and the politics it got done. It will be a long time before man ever does anything else so wonderful, I just hope I'm here to see it.
I wasn't even born when this happened or indeed for some time after, but it still gives me chills to think that we did this, despite the danger, the costs, the engineering difficulties and the politics it got done. It will be a long time before man ever does anything else so wonderful, I just hope I'm here to see it.
Eric Mc said:
Don't hold your breath.
It looks very likely that Obama will postpone America's return to the moon indefinitely
Let's wait and see what the Augustine II Commission have to say. It looks very likely that Obama will postpone America's return to the moon indefinitely
Obama's new leadership for NASA just got confirmed by the Senate.
I suspect BO will go with whatever Augustine and Lori Garver suggest, or rather provide the funds to do it, to a greater or lesser extent.
I've seen so many space iniatives stumble and falter because of administration changes over the years that I am now naturally pessimistic that any can survive a new President.
I hope that he doesn't axe any of teh Ares/Constellation programme - but my hunch is that the moon landing element will be put on a much longer timetable, if it isn't axed completely.
I hope that he doesn't axe any of teh Ares/Constellation programme - but my hunch is that the moon landing element will be put on a much longer timetable, if it isn't axed completely.
Eric Mc said:
I've seen so many space iniatives stumble and falter because of administration changes over the years that I am now naturally pessimistic that any can survive a new President.
I hope that he doesn't axe any of teh Ares/Constellation programme - but my hunch is that the moon landing element will be put on a much longer timetable, if it isn't axed completely.
Ares as we know it is almost certainly dead. This is a very good thing. I hope that he doesn't axe any of teh Ares/Constellation programme - but my hunch is that the moon landing element will be put on a much longer timetable, if it isn't axed completely.
I suspect the end solution will be a smaller heavy lifter, reusing more of the shuttle hardware in an unchanged state than the current plan. It could be either be sidemount (shuttle c) or inline (DIRECT/Jupiter/Ares V mini). Sidemount may be easier for cargo, but a sidemount Orion could well be a showstopper.
Whatever happens, Commercial space to ISS will continue/get a boost. This could well be complimented by modifing one of the EELV fleet (most probably Delta-IV Heavy) to have a secondary Orion launch capacity. This is more likely if a sidemount option is chosen, but the guys pushing for the inline architecture also want the EELV option.
There is a lot of completed work on manrating the EELV fleet from the aborted OSP project. It would bring the gap in US manned space flight down somewhat, and safeguards against the inevitable delays in the manned SpaceX programme.
bobthemonkey said:
Eric Mc said:
I've seen so many space iniatives stumble and falter because of administration changes over the years that I am now naturally pessimistic that any can survive a new President.
I hope that he doesn't axe any of teh Ares/Constellation programme - but my hunch is that the moon landing element will be put on a much longer timetable, if it isn't axed completely.
Ares as we know it is almost certainly dead. This is a very good thing. I hope that he doesn't axe any of teh Ares/Constellation programme - but my hunch is that the moon landing element will be put on a much longer timetable, if it isn't axed completely.
I suspect the end solution will be a smaller heavy lifter, reusing more of the shuttle hardware in an unchanged state than the current plan. It could be either be sidemount (shuttle c) or inline (DIRECT/Jupiter/Ares V mini). Sidemount may be easier for cargo, but a sidemount Orion could well be a showstopper.
Whatever happens, Commercial space to ISS will continue/get a boost. This could well be complimented by modifing one of the EELV fleet (most probably Delta-IV Heavy) to have a secondary Orion launch capacity. This is more likely if a sidemount option is chosen, but the guys pushing for the inline architecture also want the EELV option.
There is a lot of completed work on manrating the EELV fleet from the aborted OSP project. It would bring the gap in US manned space flight down somewhat, and safeguards against the inevitable delays in the manned SpaceX programme.
The trouble is, if they keep changing their minds mid-stream, nothing ends up getting done.
The Augustine Report will point the way forward - if there is a way forward. I would hate to think that five years work already carried out will go to waste.
I once came across a book a couple of years ago full of photos that probably included some of these. It was about 8 inches square and hardcover, and I think it was just called 'Moon'. Stupidly I didn't buy it when I saw it, but now wish I had. Does anyone know what i'm talking about and if you can still buy it? Amazon didn't yield anything.
I love that photo of Armstrong after they'd got back into the LM. He seems to have a combination of elation and tiredness, as you probably would.
Can someone explain why there is a photo of the command module apparently between the LM and the moon's surface? I don't understand why they would have separated and then gone 'up', when their desination was 'down'.
I love that photo of Armstrong after they'd got back into the LM. He seems to have a combination of elation and tiredness, as you probably would.
Can someone explain why there is a photo of the command module apparently between the LM and the moon's surface? I don't understand why they would have separated and then gone 'up', when their desination was 'down'.
Edited by RDE on Thursday 16th July 22:14
RDE said:
Can someone explain why there is a photo of the command module apparently between the LM and the moon's surface? I don't understand why they would have separated and then gone 'up', when their desination was 'down'.
Image 35? Reading it a few times, I think that's the LM from the command module.RDE said:
I once came across a book a couple of years ago full of photos that probably included some of these. It was about 8 inches square and hardcover, and I think it was just called 'Moon'. Stupidly I didn't buy it when I saw it, but now wish I had. Does anyone know what i'm talking about and if you can still buy it? Amazon didn't yield anything.
I love that photo of Armstrong after they'd got back into the LM. He seems to have a combination of elation and tiredness, as you probably would.
Can someone explain why there is a photo of the command module apparently between the LM and the moon's surface? I don't understand why they would have separated and then gone 'up', when their desination was 'down'.
Rendesvous and docking is a complicated act to perform with the counter-intuitive manouevers required to allow the two spacecraft to catch up with each other. One spacecraft acts as chaser and the other acts as target. I'm pretty sure, because it carried more fuel reserves) it was the Command Module which would have "chased" the Linar Module which would have meant that it needed to "catch" the LM. This usually entails dropping down to a sllightly lower orbit. Once lower, the spacecraft speeds up and starts to overhaul the target. It then moves ahead of the target, raises the orbit to match the target's and then the two craft use small thrusters to nudge towards each other.I love that photo of Armstrong after they'd got back into the LM. He seems to have a combination of elation and tiredness, as you probably would.
Can someone explain why there is a photo of the command module apparently between the LM and the moon's surface? I don't understand why they would have separated and then gone 'up', when their desination was 'down'.
Edited by RDE on Thursday 16th July 22:14
Also, before final docking, both craft flew around each other so they could inspect their exteriors for damage etc.
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