Train Station Question: What's this for?
Train Station Question: What's this for?
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oobster

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7,445 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Good evening.

Does anyone know what this is on the (very small) image below?



I have noticed several of these all along train stations where the platform meets the tracks. There are no cables attached to them and I can't work out what the numbers or the sliders mean.

Thank you.

Mag1calTrev0r

6,481 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I've wondered that for years...

TheEnd

15,370 posts

204 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I remember plates with CANT on them too, which were highly amusing to school children.

kit80

4,764 posts

203 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I would have to switch it and see biggrin

marshalla

15,902 posts

217 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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It'll be here ( http://railfoto.fotopic.net/ ) somewhere

911DM

4,619 posts

203 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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marshalla said:
It'll be here ( http://railfoto.fotopic.net/ ) somewhere
I recall seeing those things - aren't they on the underground though, not the mainline?

I'm curious now too!

Dogwatch

6,328 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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I assumed that they set the height of the track for ballasting crews so that train floors were at about the right height for passengers to get on and off without needing climbing gear.
No idea if this is right but you only see these things below platforms. They only appeared locally in the 90's and we seemed to survive until then without them.

MitchT

16,776 posts

225 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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They're everywhere. I asked a Network Rail employee what they were once and got the definitive answer... but I can't remember exactly what it is now. I believe the red slider is positioned at a height equal to the top of the railhead. In the event of these devices being on a banked curve it's placed relative to the height of the highest railhead... but I could be wrong!

DrTre

12,955 posts

248 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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What's a railhead?

grumbledoak

32,151 posts

249 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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DrTre said:
What's a railhead?
I never did find that out, but 'slippery rail head' formed part of the useless buggers' excuse when they stranded me for hours due to what could, if generous, be described as 'a bit of frost'. I answered that it sounded like their employees were having a bloody sight more fun than their paying customers, which they didn't seem to like...

muckymotor

2,364 posts

237 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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DrTre said:
What's a railhead?
The head of the rail.

MitchT

16,776 posts

225 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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DrTre said:
What's a railhead?
The top of the rail itself, ie, the bit that the wheels of the train are actually in contact with.

FarleyRusk

1,036 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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<thread moved form The Lounge>

We have a railways forum? laugh
I never spotted it before. But now its in my notebook redface

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

271 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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What's a railway station...?

Driller

8,310 posts

294 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Dogwatch said:
I assumed that they set the height of the track for ballasting crews so that train floors were at about the right height for passengers to get on and off without needing climbing gear.
No idea if this is right but you only see these things below platforms. They only appeared locally in the 90's and we seemed to survive until then without them.
Yeah that's what I always thought, they look like they are there to be adjusted height wise rather than be connected to something electrical.

MitchT

16,776 posts

225 months

Saturday 5th September 2009
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Driller said:
Yeah that's what I always thought, they look like they are there to be adjusted height wise rather than be connected to something electrical.
Yeah, the red square is a little slider that can be pushed up and down and indicates the height of the highest railhead. The number '0' near the bottom of the white square in the OP's pic varies and, I think, indicates the difference between the height of the higher railhead and the lower one in the event of a banked curve. Could be wrong about that though, and not sure what the four digit number at the top of the white square indicates.

AJS-

15,366 posts

252 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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FarleyRusk said:
<thread moved form The Lounge>

We have a railways forum? laugh
I never spotted it before. But now its in my notebook redface
I was actually surprised to see there is no public transport forum. Perhaps divided by region.

Ross1988

1,234 posts

199 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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Theres are called Datum Plates

They are used on the railway as a means of informing maintenance crews what the track should be like.

The red block means that the track is not to design, sometimes there is a green block this means it is to current design.

The top left empty sections would usually indicate the structure and number. For example if if that was 30 metres down the platform (They are spaced every 10 meters) it would be number 3. They also have numbering for plates of of platforms, eg. Gantrys, Over Bridges, Underbridges and other places.

The number 1023 would indicate how far away the block is away from the outside edge of the rail. Its in millimetres.

The red squares with the letters indicate what line it is referring to, UF means up fast, so i would assume the station your in has 4 lines?

If your interested its always referenced to a up U or down D railway line. There's main,fast,slow,goods,loop,relief and some other names for lines.

The 0 indicates that the cant or super elevation of the track is 0.

Cant for anyone interested is the difference in height from one rail to the other, with a maximum of a 150 mm cant.

The number next to the cross on the left indicates the hight of the block.

Hope that helps

Zad

12,858 posts

252 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
What's a railway station...?
I wonder at what point people started calling railway stations, train stations?

oobster

Original Poster:

7,445 posts

227 months

Sunday 6th September 2009
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Ross1988 said:
Theres are called Datum Plates

They are used on the railway as a means of informing maintenance crews what the track should be like.

The red block means that the track is not to design, sometimes there is a green block this means it is to current design.

The top left empty sections would usually indicate the structure and number. For example if if that was 30 metres down the platform (They are spaced every 10 meters) it would be number 3. They also have numbering for plates of of platforms, eg. Gantrys, Over Bridges, Underbridges and other places.

The number 1023 would indicate how far away the block is away from the outside edge of the rail. Its in millimetres.

The red squares with the letters indicate what line it is referring to, UF means up fast, so i would assume the station your in has 4 lines?

If your interested its always referenced to a up U or down D railway line. There's main,fast,slow,goods,loop,relief and some other names for lines.

The 0 indicates that the cant or super elevation of the track is 0.

Cant for anyone interested is the difference in height from one rail to the other, with a maximum of a 150 mm cant.

The number next to the cross on the left indicates the hight of the block.

Hope that helps
Thanks for the info folks, especially Ross1988 - kinda makes sense now. The station I was at only has 2 lines, and the plates seemed to be every 2M (roughly) though.