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IceBoy

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2,448 posts

237 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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Hi All,

Getting of the intercity train at Paddington this morning I could'nt help notice the size of the engine on that thing !

So I ponder.....what is the largest most powerful......land based engine.....so forget all the marine stuff ?

How powerful is the intercity engine ?

IceBoy


HellDiver

5,708 posts

198 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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Intercity 125 uses a pair of Class 43 engines, each with 2250hp diesel/electric generators.

Tractive effort is a VW TDi beating 17,980lb-ft.

ZesPak

25,557 posts

212 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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IceBoy said:
Hi All,

Getting of the intercity train at Paddington this morning I could'nt help notice the size of the engine on that thing !

So I ponder.....what is the largest most powerful......land based engine.....so forget all the marine stuff ?

How powerful is the intercity engine ?

IceBoy
I asume you mean in a vehicle and fueled with petrol/diesel?

In that light, without going to things on rails, I'll start with the Terex Titan engine:
16-cylinder 169.49 l 3,300 bhp locomotive engine

Or it's smaller but more powerfull brother, the Liebherr T 282B:
90 l 3650 hp
engine weight: 10 tonnes

Edited by ZesPak on Monday 7th September 14:15

IceBoy

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2,448 posts

237 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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anything on land really, so petrol/diesel/steam/what-ever really ?? LOL

ZesPak

25,557 posts

212 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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IceBoy said:
anything on land really, so petrol/diesel/steam/what-ever really ?? LOL
There are some electric trains in switserland pumping out over 9000 hp (used for pulling other trains up slopes)...

Their size is, well, that of a really big locomotive smile.

Edit: don't mind the measly underpowered toy trains above:

http://frontierindia.net/alm/russia-develops-the-w...

I'll bet you could find trains with alledged hp double than that, as I recall some produced up to 30k hp.

Edited by ZesPak on Monday 7th September 14:21

tank slapper

7,949 posts

299 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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Huff

3,304 posts

207 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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It has to be the prime movers for turboalternators - the giant steam turbines. A 660MW generator is roughly 900,000Hp; scale from there.

ETA: that's roughly 1.5million Lb-Ft at 3000rpm...

Edited by Huff on Monday 7th September 15:41

Bish

809 posts

223 months

Monday 7th September 2009
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A bit of a shame they have re-engined all the Class 43's........Inter City.......they used to have a fantastic sounding Valenta Engine but sadly now replaced with an MTU which is quiter, cleaner, and more efficient. BOO!

matchmaker

8,795 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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The Valentas that used to be in HST's were 88 litre. A 16CSVT English Electric as used in the Class 50 is a 247 litre V16.

Somewhatfoolish

4,883 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th September 2009
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Bish said:
A bit of a shame they have re-engined all the Class 43's........Inter City.......they used to have a fantastic sounding Valenta Engine but sadly now replaced with an MTU which is quiter, cleaner, and more efficient. BOO!
The ones used on grand central are still Valentas smile

28V6

100 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th September 2009
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This is a 185.5 litre twin turbo, charge cooled 48v V12 diesel made by The English Electric Company as fitted to the EE class 37 locomotives.

It was rated by EE at over 2,000 HP (in 1960) but British Railways had them down rated to 1,750 HP @ 850 RPM to promote longer service life between overhauls. (around every 10,000 HRS).

These Locomotives are still in regular service on the main line.

Bish

809 posts

223 months

Thursday 10th September 2009
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28V6

100 posts

225 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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As it happends I'am part of the Llangollen Diesel Group & get to work on this fine machine amongst others.

Bish

809 posts

223 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Your're a lucky man. Has the Peak gone as yet??? Such a shame!

slartibartfast

4,029 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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At one time the Deltics were the most powerful.
Bring back the Deltics, nothing sounds as good.

slartibartfast

4,029 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Bish said:
lucky bast!

RizzoTheRat

26,969 posts

208 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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slartibartfast said:
At one time the Deltics were the most powerful.
Bring back the Deltics, nothing sounds as good.
The Navy still use them in the Hunt class minesweepers. Much less metal that most similarly powered engines which is a good thing when you're trying to avoid setting off magnetic detectors. Genius design on the things





I think British Gas use Spey's to pump gas around, dunno what power thiers make but the naval verison is over 25,000HP

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Tuesday 15th September 11:29

slartibartfast

4,029 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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RizzoTheRat said:
slartibartfast said:
At one time the Deltics were the most powerful.
Bring back the Deltics, nothing sounds as good.
The Navy still use them in the Hunt class minesweepers. Much less metal that most similarly powered engines which is a good thing when you're trying to avoid setting off magnetic detectors. Genius design on the things





I think British Gas use Spey's to pump gas around, dunno what power thiers make but the naval verison is over 25,000HP

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Tuesday 15th September 11:29
I've seen that before infact i've got a copy of it on my photobucket, on the left hand cylinder the exhaust and inlet are the wrong ways round.


slartibartfast

4,029 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Talking of animations, heres one I made a couple of years ago, took about 6hrs to do and isn't perfect


RizzoTheRat

26,969 posts

208 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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slartibartfast said:
I've seen that before infact i've got a copy of it on my photobucket, on the left hand cylinder the exhaust and inlet are the wrong ways round.
I wondered about that too but assumed the engine was like that so they could gang a couple of the inlets together on the top left crank, and a couple of the exhausts at the bottom. Looks like you're right though, a quick google found this cutaway showing them all the same. Also loks to be an annular inlet not a single port like the exhaust



Edited by RizzoTheRat on Tuesday 15th September 16:13