beef brisket

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Urban_Ninja

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1,885 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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saturday I desided that the next day I will have a roast, Dont seem to have that many of late as they take so long to do and I get really annoyed with having to wait for hours for the meat to cook, I want it now god damn it!

anyway, Went out and got some beef brisket and a few veg.


basically, wacked the beef into a glass pot, stuck some veg round it, put a small amount of water in the bottom to keep moisture and so as the fat/juice comes out of the meat, can use that liquid for a gravy.


ended up with beef, onions, carrots, parsnips, and new potato's in the pot with a bit of water, in the oven for 5-5 an a half hours at 90 for 5 hours and 120 for the last 30 mins.

of course the oblicotory[sp] roast tatties and york pud's.

turned out really well, the meat took the flavor of the vegs aswell as making the veg taste a bit meaty.

just thought I would let FD&R know

If anyone knows of a better way, im open to idea's.


as you were

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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That's definitely the way to do Brisket IMO. yes

OllieWinchester

5,659 posts

193 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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Just out of interest, doesn't the veg suffer being cooked for that long? I envisage it being all mushy and overcooked, like my grandma used to cook it....hurl

Urban_Ninja

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1,885 posts

190 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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not really, the carrots still had a crunch and so did the rest of the veg.

was quite tasty, but next time I might leave out the onions

Pferdestarke

7,184 posts

188 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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A good piece of brisket is very enjoyable. You may also like pale bone which is the other end of the rib on a fore-rib of beef.

It's a similar flavour/texture to brisket but doesn't require such long cooking.

Watch-Collector

256 posts

196 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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I tend to cook Brisket in just good beef boullion and a cut up onion and a few Garlic cloves, make sure the joint is imersed and then sowly cook it. You can also do the same with Top -side which in my opinion is the best way to cook that as well!!
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mikez328

243 posts

199 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy.

However, every summer I make my own beefburgers for the BBQ. I buy a 3-4kg joint of brisket. I mince it through a food processor (thick setting), add 4-5 finely chopped onions, 6 eggs, loads of black pepper with a dash of sea salt, mix it all together then use a tiny non-stick baking tin to produce 6-8 ounce burgers. A few cuts of non-stick baking paper between them & straight into the freezer...

Much better than the supermarkets - or even your local butcher - can produce. You need the fat that brisket has for both the cooking & the flavour.

SwanJack

1,912 posts

273 months

Thursday 5th March 2009
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mikez328 said:
.......Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy. ........
Why? Because its cheap?

TheMighty

584 posts

212 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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mikez328 said:
Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy.
Brisket maybe fairly cheap because of the fat content, but that just means it takes longer to prepare and cook. It doesn't mean its a bad cut and that its not servable to your friends. I usually serve a big brisket to about 40 friends during summer, done in the Texas BBQ style and after 2 days marinating and then 14 hours in the oven, the fat renders down to absolutely nothing and its the most tender piece of meat you'll ever eat and its much tastier than some much more expensive cuts.

mikez328

243 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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SwanJack said:
mikez328 said:
.......Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy. ........
Why? Because its cheap?
Exactly. But as TheMighty said, if you buy a VERY large joint & slow cook it for several hours, using the fat for home made roast potatoes you won't get better tastes. However, I buy brisket joints purely to go through the mincer on a coarse grind to make beefburgers. I do this twice a year & fill the freezer for summer BBQ's... They taste better than expensive Rib-Eye steaks.

Bear in mind that a good burger will be almost 40% fat - that's what gives it flavour - & shrink to half it's size if cooked well. I like the blood to be dripping onto the bun & give salty flavour.

TubbyRutter

2,070 posts

207 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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mikez328 said:
SwanJack said:
mikez328 said:
.......Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy. ........
Why? Because its cheap?
Exactly. But as TheMighty said, if you buy a VERY large joint & slow cook it for several hours, using the fat for home made roast potatoes you won't get better tastes. However, I buy brisket joints purely to go through the mincer on a coarse grind to make beefburgers. I do this twice a year & fill the freezer for summer BBQ's... They taste better than expensive Rib-Eye steaks.

Bear in mind that a good burger will be almost 40% fat - that's what gives it flavour - & shrink to half it's size if cooked well. I like the blood to be dripping onto the bun & give salty flavour.
So you wouldn't serve it to your worst enemy but you serve it to your friends? idea

mikez328

243 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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TubbyRutter said:
mikez328 said:
SwanJack said:
mikez328 said:
.......Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy. ........
Why? Because its cheap?
Exactly. But as TheMighty said, if you buy a VERY large joint & slow cook it for several hours, using the fat for home made roast potatoes you won't get better tastes. However, I buy brisket joints purely to go through the mincer on a coarse grind to make beefburgers. I do this twice a year & fill the freezer for summer BBQ's... They taste better than expensive Rib-Eye steaks.

Bear in mind that a good burger will be almost 40% fat - that's what gives it flavour - & shrink to half it's size if cooked well. I like the blood to be dripping onto the bun & give salty flavour.
So you wouldn't serve it to your worst enemy but you serve it to your friends? idea
'Fraid not. I & my wife will happily eat some of it then freeze the rest. My "friends" "neighbours" etc. will only be served thick rump/sirloin steaks. I have a reputation pal!! A BBQ is quite different by the pool...

Percy Flage

1,770 posts

223 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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mikez328 said:
'Fraid not. I & my wife will happily eat some of it then freeze the rest. My "friends" "neighbours" etc. will only be served thick rump/sirloin steaks. I have a reputation pal!! A BBQ is quite different by the pool...
So your friends aren't good enough for fillet?

riojamille

3 posts

185 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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Chefs will tell you that it is the cheapest cuts of meat, prepared well, that often deliver great results.

Beef Brisket, Blade or whatever you want to call it gives a great meal.

A professional will tie and roll the meat (like a Swiss Roll) - your butcher might do this - and then wrap in clingfilm to create a consistent shape - twisting the ends of the clingfilm to make it really tight. Refrigerate for a few hours so that the meat takes the shape before cooking.

When the meat is cut after cooking you can cut it to the same shape and size as a nice larder cut fillet steak. the difference being that the meat just falls apart. Any fat/gristle is rendered down leaving the meat incredibly moist.

Top restaurants use these cheap cuts - food cost is low - but prep time is high (labour costs).

Don't dismiss.



Papoo

3,690 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2009
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mikez328 said:
TubbyRutter said:
mikez328 said:
SwanJack said:
mikez328 said:
.......Brisket is one of the cheapest cuts of beef & would not serve it to my worst enemy. ........
Why? Because its cheap?
Exactly. But as TheMighty said, if you buy a VERY large joint & slow cook it for several hours, using the fat for home made roast potatoes you won't get better tastes. However, I buy brisket joints purely to go through the mincer on a coarse grind to make beefburgers. I do this twice a year & fill the freezer for summer BBQ's... They taste better than expensive Rib-Eye steaks.

Bear in mind that a good burger will be almost 40% fat - that's what gives it flavour - & shrink to half it's size if cooked well. I like the blood to be dripping onto the bun & give salty flavour.
So you wouldn't serve it to your worst enemy but you serve it to your friends? idea
'Fraid not. I & my wife will happily eat some of it then freeze the rest. My "friends" "neighbours" etc. will only be served thick rump/sirloin steaks. I have a reputation pal!! A BBQ is quite different by the pool...
A rump, however, manages to contain a worse texture to most other cuts and worse flavour than a brisket, in burger form or otherwise.. I don't follow you..