Star Wars eps. 1-3 - a change of view
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TheHeretic said:
Anyone have a little thought in the back of their heads that the jedi are actually a quite creepy sort of secret police, who get pretty miffed if you don't do as they say?
Yeah, that's how they turned out. I get the feeling that if George Orwell had written the prequels the Jedis would be the bad guys.Saw the Sith film is on, a bunch of clones stood around Kenobi. Made me recall what I thought the clone wars were back in the true SW days. A bunch of wars between clones when cloning got out of control. Which is understandable when you have multiple versions of the same individuals. Cloning caused so much chaos that it through the galaxy into turmoil and allowed an Empire to merge, and thus the moratorium on cloning.
Instead we get the 'clone wars' fought between the same clone on one side and robots on the other. Great, so why stop cloning?
Every fraking aspect of this enlarged franchise is cheesewhiz.
FourWheelDrift said:
Argh, just turned over to find the heap of st called EPIII is on and just caught the Wookies doing the Tarzan call as they swung onto an attacking droid ship. What their "vines" were attached to I don't know as everything around them was droid controlled.
Don't remember that bit. What I do remember was in RotJ during the Battle of Endor when Chewbacca swung across onto the AT-ST that they commandeered. I've always thought it was an amusing little Easter Egg.
Are you saying they bludgeoned that into RotS as well?
Ace-T said:
Ep 3 is so bad isn't it. Only seen it once before so thought I would give it another go. Poor flow, hysterically bad dialogue (worse than the originals!) and despite all the exciting music and effects quite dull. A shame.
Yet it is voted 77% on IMDB and 80% on rotten tomatoes. Noooooooooooooo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s
That's actually the funniest part.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
That's actually the funniest part.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
FourWheelDrift said:
And she names the children Luke & Leia which completely ruins the plot twists and surprise in the original films if you watch them in chronological order.
And then promptly dies, thus not allowing Leia to have remembered her. Although I suppose Leia could have been referring to Bail Organa's wife when she told Luke she remembered her mother. Also, she died because she had "lost the will to live". As if being a mum to twins wasn't reason enough to stay alive.
Also, instead of saying "Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!" why didn't Vader say "You fking liar! You tricked me! You said you could save her and now she's dead. Well fk this for a game of soldiers, 'Ahmm Ooot'".
JonRB said:
FourWheelDrift said:
And she names the children Luke & Leia which completely ruins the plot twists and surprise in the original films if you watch them in chronological order.
And then promptly dies, thus not allowing Leia to have remembered her. Although I suppose Leia could have been referring to Bail Organa's wife when she told Luke she remembered her mother. Also, she died because she had "lost the will to live". As if being a mum to twins wasn't reason enough to stay alive.
Also, instead of saying "Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!" why didn't Vader say "You fking liar! You tricked me! You said you could save her and now she's dead. Well fk this for a game of soldiers, 'Ahmm Ooot'".
FourWheelDrift said:
Noooooooooooooo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s
That's actually the funniest part.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SMMQvRAhAk&fea...That's actually the funniest part.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
JonRB said:
And then promptly dies, thus not allowing Leia to have remembered her. Although I suppose Leia could have been referring to Bail Organa's wife when she told Luke she remembered her mother.
No, I think it's a glaring error, given that in ROTJ Luke says 'do you remember your mother? Your REAL mother?' Leia makes it out as a very distant memory and it's clear she knew all along that she was adopted. Another sign of the prequels' content being badly ordered and sequenced.Watched the last fight. I think I realised the reason why I hold the Yoda/Emperor fight as the only one worth watching in the prequels. It is is down to the backstory and choreography.
They're both characters from the originals, so we know who they are, what makes them tick, they have depth. They're both played by decent actors who actually act, and the fight is fierce. There is no baton twirling 'I'm a big ballet dancer type fanny prancing around like it's Christmas.' Juxtapose it with the Mace Windu fight from earlier where we get the fannying around, twirling, turning your back to you opponent in some choreographed X-Factor type dance. Yoda/Emps are just straight into it trying to tt each other as quickly as possible.
Also I think because we learn more about characters, like Emps unwillingness to engage Yoda at first, and then going slightly nuts as he waxes his power. And Yoda actually kicking arse.
They're both characters from the originals, so we know who they are, what makes them tick, they have depth. They're both played by decent actors who actually act, and the fight is fierce. There is no baton twirling 'I'm a big ballet dancer type fanny prancing around like it's Christmas.' Juxtapose it with the Mace Windu fight from earlier where we get the fannying around, twirling, turning your back to you opponent in some choreographed X-Factor type dance. Yoda/Emps are just straight into it trying to tt each other as quickly as possible.
Also I think because we learn more about characters, like Emps unwillingness to engage Yoda at first, and then going slightly nuts as he waxes his power. And Yoda actually kicking arse.
Halb said:
Watched the last fight. I think I realised the reason why I hold the Yoda/Emperor fight as the only one worth watching in the prequels. It is is down to the backstory and choreography.
They're both characters from the originals, so we know who they are, what makes them tick, they have depth. They're both played by decent actors who actually act,
Hate to break it you but Yoda isn't real. They're both characters from the originals, so we know who they are, what makes them tick, they have depth. They're both played by decent actors who actually act,
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