Biggest plot holes in films (spoilers)
Discussion
Halb said:
according to Wikipedia, anyway - "U-boats were required to spend most of their time surfaced running on diesel engines, diving only when attacked or for rare daytime torpedo strikes.
A fact that is evident if you watch that great movie Das Boot, the sub was more efficient when moving on the surface and it used that surface time to charge up the batteries, underwater they used the electric motors for hunting or, more usually, evasion of surface ships. At the start of Vertigo who the hell, and more importantly HOW the hell is Jimmy Stewart's character rescued dangling from roof guttering seconds from certain death ?
In the force awakens, starkiller base shoots several planets at once and can be seen doing so from the random planet that Han and co are on. Is starkiller base in the same planetary system as all of the other planets of interest? Are all planets of the republic in the same system? They're all about the same distance away...light lag?
Hyperspace travel must a bit "tense" with so many planets close by to hit. In fact, its redundant as you can fly there in half an hour at sublight.... oh I've gone cross-eyed.
JJ you absolute c unit! read a book on space ffs. Then fling your useless carcass into the cold hard vacuum of space. I am sure Musk will expedite you into oblivion if you pay him your ill-gotten gains from the s
te you've squeezed out over the years.
He did the same st in startrek with Spock watching Vulcan be consumed from Vulcan's moon. Vulcan has no moon. Even Spock told you that you prick.
Hyperspace travel must a bit "tense" with so many planets close by to hit. In fact, its redundant as you can fly there in half an hour at sublight.... oh I've gone cross-eyed.
JJ you absolute c unit! read a book on space ffs. Then fling your useless carcass into the cold hard vacuum of space. I am sure Musk will expedite you into oblivion if you pay him your ill-gotten gains from the s
te you've squeezed out over the years. He did the same s
t in startrek with Spock watching Vulcan be consumed from Vulcan's moon. Vulcan has no moon. Even Spock told you that you prick.
Catatafish said:
In the force awakens, starkiller base shoots several planets at once and can be seen doing so from the random planet that Han and co are on. Is starkiller base in the same planetary system as all of the other planets of interest? Are all planets of the republic in the same system? They're all about the same distance away...light lag?
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THat really annoyed me at the time, it was so stupid (like a lot in that film). Everyone could see the weapon and explosion, forget same system, it was like it was inn the atmosphere! A lot of film pundits say that JJ doesn't understand space. I believe them..
I think (not sure) but everyone also knew what had happened in that films, as if there was a universe twitter stream, or they had all read the script.
Star Wars Ep IV...
During the opening battle, when C3PO and R2D2 do a runner, the Star Destroyer crew spot their escape pod and comment:
“There goes another one” implying several are jettisoned during the seizure of the rebel ship.
Couple of scenes later, Vader is briefed “During the battle, an escape pod was jettisoned”
How/why was the one the two droids were aboard singled out?
During the opening battle, when C3PO and R2D2 do a runner, the Star Destroyer crew spot their escape pod and comment:
“There goes another one” implying several are jettisoned during the seizure of the rebel ship.
Couple of scenes later, Vader is briefed “During the battle, an escape pod was jettisoned”
How/why was the one the two droids were aboard singled out?
Don’t get me started on Bond....
Where does his DB5 come from in skyfall?
Is it the one he won in casino Royale?
Why does it have the same number plate as the one from gold finger?
If it is the car from gold finger how did he get it back after crashing it?
Did goldfinger give it back?
If it’s the one from casino Royale. Who fitted the weapons? Q? He only just met him and the car looked as though it had been in storage in his garage for ages.
Do all double 0 agents get their personal cars modified for free?
In spectre: The undercover 007 has a extremely tight time scale to make it to a Rome. Why does he decide to drive?
If he’s going to drive why a prototype Aston?
I imagine the car spotters, you tubers, school boys and PistonHeads members would have had a field day on the Eurostar. Pictures of the DB10 with a PistonHeads number plate the next day. They wouldn’t need that stuff they injected to track him.
In Spectre: why do MI6 leave the boats under the building that is about to be demolished?
Why do they leave the keys in them? A kid could have got in their or something.
In Quantum of solace: why does the hotel have hydrogen fuel cells in the wall of each room? If they were going to use fuel cells as power supply for a hotel in the desert (which make absolutely no sense at all) they wouldn’t have one in each room. Pumping hydrogen around a hotel may cause explosions..
How can baddie Alfa 159s and Landrovers keep up with Bonds Aston? Is he an old lady? Is miss daisy in the back?
I could go on all day. The bond movies have more holes than a tramps vest (mixing my metaphors there)
Where does his DB5 come from in skyfall?
Is it the one he won in casino Royale?
Why does it have the same number plate as the one from gold finger?
If it is the car from gold finger how did he get it back after crashing it?
Did goldfinger give it back?
If it’s the one from casino Royale. Who fitted the weapons? Q? He only just met him and the car looked as though it had been in storage in his garage for ages.
Do all double 0 agents get their personal cars modified for free?
In spectre: The undercover 007 has a extremely tight time scale to make it to a Rome. Why does he decide to drive?
If he’s going to drive why a prototype Aston?
I imagine the car spotters, you tubers, school boys and PistonHeads members would have had a field day on the Eurostar. Pictures of the DB10 with a PistonHeads number plate the next day. They wouldn’t need that stuff they injected to track him.
In Spectre: why do MI6 leave the boats under the building that is about to be demolished?
Why do they leave the keys in them? A kid could have got in their or something.
In Quantum of solace: why does the hotel have hydrogen fuel cells in the wall of each room? If they were going to use fuel cells as power supply for a hotel in the desert (which make absolutely no sense at all) they wouldn’t have one in each room. Pumping hydrogen around a hotel may cause explosions..
How can baddie Alfa 159s and Landrovers keep up with Bonds Aston? Is he an old lady? Is miss daisy in the back?
I could go on all day. The bond movies have more holes than a tramps vest (mixing my metaphors there)
marksx said:
Going back to endgame. They travel back in time to destroy the stones.
Why not just focus on one stone. Thanos needs them all to execute his plan.
They go back in time to retrieve the stones and undo the “snap” Why not just focus on one stone. Thanos needs them all to execute his plan.
In the present Thanos has already destroyed the stones.
After the Avengers win Cap returns the stones to the original times.
Did you miss the last half hour?
robemcdonald said:
Don’t get me started on Bond....
Where does his DB5 come from in skyfall?
Is it the one he won in casino Royale?
Why does it have the same number plate as the one from gold finger?
If it is the car from gold finger how did he get it back after crashing it?
Did goldfinger give it back?
If it’s the one from casino Royale. Who fitted the weapons? Q? He only just met him and the car looked as though it had been in storage in his garage for ages.
Do all double 0 agents get their personal cars modified for free?
In spectre: The undercover 007 has a extremely tight time scale to make it to a Rome. Why does he decide to drive?
If he’s going to drive why a prototype Aston?
I imagine the car spotters, you tubers, school boys and PistonHeads members would have had a field day on the Eurostar. Pictures of the DB10 with a PistonHeads number plate the next day. They wouldn’t need that stuff they injected to track him.
In Spectre: why do MI6 leave the boats under the building that is about to be demolished?
Why do they leave the keys in them? A kid could have got in their or something.
In Quantum of solace: why does the hotel have hydrogen fuel cells in the wall of each room? If they were going to use fuel cells as power supply for a hotel in the desert (which make absolutely no sense at all) they wouldn’t have one in each room. Pumping hydrogen around a hotel may cause explosions..
How can baddie Alfa 159s and Landrovers keep up with Bonds Aston? Is he an old lady? Is miss daisy in the back?
I could go on all day. The bond movies have more holes than a tramps vest (mixing my metaphors there)
Why does Goldfinger go to the bother of building an elaborate model to explain his plans to a group of hoods who he then proceeds to kill anyway? Why having killed one hood separately does Oddjob needlessly crush him in his car with the gold?Where does his DB5 come from in skyfall?
Is it the one he won in casino Royale?
Why does it have the same number plate as the one from gold finger?
If it is the car from gold finger how did he get it back after crashing it?
Did goldfinger give it back?
If it’s the one from casino Royale. Who fitted the weapons? Q? He only just met him and the car looked as though it had been in storage in his garage for ages.
Do all double 0 agents get their personal cars modified for free?
In spectre: The undercover 007 has a extremely tight time scale to make it to a Rome. Why does he decide to drive?
If he’s going to drive why a prototype Aston?
I imagine the car spotters, you tubers, school boys and PistonHeads members would have had a field day on the Eurostar. Pictures of the DB10 with a PistonHeads number plate the next day. They wouldn’t need that stuff they injected to track him.
In Spectre: why do MI6 leave the boats under the building that is about to be demolished?
Why do they leave the keys in them? A kid could have got in their or something.
In Quantum of solace: why does the hotel have hydrogen fuel cells in the wall of each room? If they were going to use fuel cells as power supply for a hotel in the desert (which make absolutely no sense at all) they wouldn’t have one in each room. Pumping hydrogen around a hotel may cause explosions..
How can baddie Alfa 159s and Landrovers keep up with Bonds Aston? Is he an old lady? Is miss daisy in the back?
I could go on all day. The bond movies have more holes than a tramps vest (mixing my metaphors there)
Halb said:
I think that's a good observation, INdy led the NAZIs to Marion, which jollied up the excavation. But they did have a rip-off medallion and they had the time, resources and willpower to dig around that place for decades. It's a reasonable assumption that they'd have found it one day.
Except they didn't have decades to find it though. They didn't know this at the time of course, but unless they stumbled across it by chance they'd never have found it - Jones' site was well away from where the main dig was.Antony Moxey said:
Except they didn't have decades to find it though. They didn't know this at the time of course, but unless they stumbled across it by chance they'd never have found it - Jones' site was well away from where the main dig was.
OK, they had4-5 years. A large scale op that had just started, Belloc and a glass head staff, they weren't jjst stumbling round, the correct headpiece let INdy find it with zero team. THe odds look good for the Germans, certainly not 'never' as the chamber was yuge and connected, had an exit point near the runway.Crossflow Kid said:
Star Wars Ep IV...
During the opening battle, when C3PO and R2D2 do a runner, the Star Destroyer crew spot their escape pod and comment:
“There goes another one” implying several are jettisoned during the seizure of the rebel ship.
Couple of scenes later, Vader is briefed “During the battle, an escape pod was jettisoned”
How/why was the one the two droids were aboard singled out?
weird for droids to use an escape pod? THey don't seem to be treated like living creatures, I thought the earlier ones had people on them trying to get away from the Empire.During the opening battle, when C3PO and R2D2 do a runner, the Star Destroyer crew spot their escape pod and comment:
“There goes another one” implying several are jettisoned during the seizure of the rebel ship.
Couple of scenes later, Vader is briefed “During the battle, an escape pod was jettisoned”
How/why was the one the two droids were aboard singled out?
Antony Moxey said:
Halb said:
I think that's a good observation, INdy led the NAZIs to Marion, which jollied up the excavation. But they did have a rip-off medallion and they had the time, resources and willpower to dig around that place for decades. It's a reasonable assumption that they'd have found it one day.
Except they didn't have decades to find it though. They didn't know this at the time of course, but unless they stumbled across it by chance they'd never have found it - Jones' site was well away from where the main dig was.Halmyre said:
Ah yes, a Nazi Germany organised dig in British protectorate territory. OK, it was three years before WW2 kicked off, but still...
The Brits had no problems with the NAZIs then, Edward8 was on good terms with them (visits with Hitler) and they had a lot of friends in the British establishment. THey'd have been little to no issue. There were those who thought alliance was on the cards.edit, got the wrong edward
Edited by Halb on Tuesday 14th January 08:41
robemcdonald said:
Don’t get me started on Bond....
Where does his DB5 come from in skyfall?
Is it the one he won in casino Royale?
No, that one was left-hand drive.Where does his DB5 come from in skyfall?
Is it the one he won in casino Royale?
robemcdonald said:
Why does it have the same number plate as the one from gold finger?
If it is the car from gold finger how did he get it back after crashing it?
I think the implication is that it's the same car, recovered and repaired. Like they show in the start of Spectre with the car they recovered from Skyfall after it was damaged.If it is the car from gold finger how did he get it back after crashing it?
robemcdonald said:
In spectre: The undercover 007 has a extremely tight time scale to make it to a Rome. Why does he decide to drive?
Much more interesting on the film if he's got a car when he gets there, and they can't do the "hire car pickup" scene again so soon after Tomorrow Never Dies.robemcdonald said:
How can baddie Alfa 159s and Landrovers keep up with Bonds Aston? Is he an old lady? Is miss daisy in the back?
Sixties Aston vs modern Ferrari in "Goldeneye", for example? What did they chase the Esprit with? A Cortina.Surely any TV/film where CIA/NSA/Secret service wander around the streets of London with pistols shooting at bad guys with no British services in sight.
Personal pet hate is in car chases where the protagonist is being over taken by the bad guys and he/she simply puts their foot down further.....why are you not using full throttle from the get go?
Personal pet hate is in car chases where the protagonist is being over taken by the bad guys and he/she simply puts their foot down further.....why are you not using full throttle from the get go?
droopsnoot said:
robemcdonald said:
How can baddie Alfa 159s and Landrovers keep up with Bonds Aston? Is he an old lady? Is miss daisy in the back?
Sixties Aston vs modern Ferrari in "Goldeneye", for example? What did they chase the Esprit with? A Cortina.As for the Alfa 159 chase, around the roads along Lake Como the Aston would struggle to get away from an asthmatic ant carrying some particularly heavy shoppping.
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