The Grand Tour
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I enjoyed it, but I cant help feeling that I'd have enjoyed it more if it hadn't had Hammond in it or they had just limited the amount of screen time he'd been given.
I really wish he would stop trying to play the "Funny" man and it seems to me that most of the c*cking about it done by him and hes really just not funny or maybe its old and tired and for me he really felt at times he was just trying to hard...
I really wish he would stop trying to play the "Funny" man and it seems to me that most of the c*cking about it done by him and hes really just not funny or maybe its old and tired and for me he really felt at times he was just trying to hard...
RB Will said:
Yes definitely at The Ridge. I’m wondering if they turned up expecting the usual car meet but got the wrong day or the turnout was rubbish because of Covid and they didn’t want to use footage of a gathering of 3 cars.
If it was going to be the wrong day you would think the Ridge would have let them know so maybe was the latter?
Normally a bit more like this, which would have fit into the narrative a bit better. One of the local clubs basically think they are 1950s Americans and come dressed up most of the time so would have been good for the narrative too.
I turned to the wife and said that looks like Shaw Ridge!, wasn't sure though as I don't go there that often. If it was going to be the wrong day you would think the Ridge would have let them know so maybe was the latter?
Normally a bit more like this, which would have fit into the narrative a bit better. One of the local clubs basically think they are 1950s Americans and come dressed up most of the time so would have been good for the narrative too.
The show itself was a bit flat I thought. Some fun moments and building the bridge at the end was actually interesting, but other parts felt tacked on for little purpose.
Could have done with being either 60 minutes, or having more to do with the original cars in 90 minutes.
I think the last really good thing they have done is the mongolia episode. The specials have all had their flaws in one way or another. Though still of course entertaining in parts and good to see the team reunited again, so still preferable to having nothing at all from them!.
Could have done with being either 60 minutes, or having more to do with the original cars in 90 minutes.
I think the last really good thing they have done is the mongolia episode. The specials have all had their flaws in one way or another. Though still of course entertaining in parts and good to see the team reunited again, so still preferable to having nothing at all from them!.
fizzwheel said:
I enjoyed it, but I cant help feeling that I'd have enjoyed it more if it hadn't had Hammond in it or they had just limited the amount of screen time he'd been given.
I really wish he would stop trying to play the "Funny" man and it seems to me that most of the c*cking about it done by him and hes really just not funny or maybe its old and tired and for me he really felt at times he was just trying to hard...
Exactly the reason I turned it off after 20 minutes. Clarksons farm was infinitely better. I really wish he would stop trying to play the "Funny" man and it seems to me that most of the c*cking about it done by him and hes really just not funny or maybe its old and tired and for me he really felt at times he was just trying to hard...
Watched it the other day
Not their finest work, but a drive through Scotland in the rain was never going to be.
It seemed a bit like a contractually-required episode that, due to Covid, they couldn't really do properly so phoned this one in.
That said; I wasn't offended by it and I'm not annoyed by it. It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't the best one.
I laughed when May fell over on opening the caravan full of water and when Hammond's boat capsized.
Not their finest work, but a drive through Scotland in the rain was never going to be.
It seemed a bit like a contractually-required episode that, due to Covid, they couldn't really do properly so phoned this one in.
That said; I wasn't offended by it and I'm not annoyed by it. It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't the best one.
I laughed when May fell over on opening the caravan full of water and when Hammond's boat capsized.
I took the ending to mean everything nowadays is Made In China, even probably all the crap Americans buy. I assume I was wide of the mark though and it was rather a nod to COVIDs origin.
It was okay. I can't see how anybody could say it was one of their best, but then it's all individual taste. For me, it passed some time and I had a few giggles but also during parts I was glancing at my phone or on the iPad as they were boring (the field race, seen it a million times) Cars did nothing for me at all, the bridge part was okay I suppose.
Average at best in my opinion.
It was okay. I can't see how anybody could say it was one of their best, but then it's all individual taste. For me, it passed some time and I had a few giggles but also during parts I was glancing at my phone or on the iPad as they were boring (the field race, seen it a million times) Cars did nothing for me at all, the bridge part was okay I suppose.
Average at best in my opinion.
Kev_Mk3 said:
Worst one I've watched and got bored half way though. I dont get the china reference at the end either
I think the China reference is the answer to Mr Willmans "I have a community where you can drive American cars without being embarrassed, everyone wants to be like an American" I.e. China seem to want to copy everything and have what the Americans have which is why they are such a developing and polluting country…which also nods to the start of the very first episode where China dammed the river to be green and go hydroelectric but the villagers live in a now waterless village (the irony of being lambasted for having so many coal fired power stations)….it is a pastiche of America but not quite AmericanSometimes GT is brilliant, sometimes it’s complete toss. This was firmly in the latter category in fact the most recent specials were all awful. Seamen was too obviousfrom start to finish, the Reunion/Madagascar one was all awful, Lochdown was just another hour of nothing and you could tell they really didn’t want to be doing it.
Which is odd because series three was really enjoyable. The old Italian cars in Scotland, building and driving “John”, homage to Ford, the photography one in Colombia etc etc, all great.
Which is odd because series three was really enjoyable. The old Italian cars in Scotland, building and driving “John”, homage to Ford, the photography one in Colombia etc etc, all great.
Paddymcc said:
Anyone nothice the Wuhan flag in the bar just above Clarksons shoulder when may and Hammond entered?
It was on screen for about 3 seconds then edited out in subsequent shots.
I've as much chance of identifying a Wuhan flag in three seconds as I do of recognising a Derbyshire flag in three hours and I live in Derbyshire...It was on screen for about 3 seconds then edited out in subsequent shots.
That apart, we enjoyed the programme. Not one of their best due to the constraints they were filming under, and predictably formulaic, it contained enough laugh out loud moments to make us want to watch it again.
They might be more of the same but I love them anyway. It's just good fun with cars. I loved Seamen in particular, for changing-up the format. Those three are just doing stuff I wish I could.
For more serious travel challenges, there's always YouTube. I follow a number of people who do car, bicycle, RIB/sailboat reviews and take them all to various parts of the country/world. These are usually extremely informative in a way I think people here expect TGT to be, however they're not as obviously entertaining (although I like them anyway).
I know there's an expectation that TGT will provide you with the very best and unique entertainment ever but really, do you really expect this? There simply isn't that much more they could do that they haven't already, and in considering this latest one, would you have preferred they didn't make an episode in the UK given the travel constraints? It made me laugh a few times even though I've seen it all before. It's like a Clint Eastwood film - you know his character will get through to the end but you watch anyway. It's predictable but enjoyable, partly for that precise reason.
For more serious travel challenges, there's always YouTube. I follow a number of people who do car, bicycle, RIB/sailboat reviews and take them all to various parts of the country/world. These are usually extremely informative in a way I think people here expect TGT to be, however they're not as obviously entertaining (although I like them anyway).
I know there's an expectation that TGT will provide you with the very best and unique entertainment ever but really, do you really expect this? There simply isn't that much more they could do that they haven't already, and in considering this latest one, would you have preferred they didn't make an episode in the UK given the travel constraints? It made me laugh a few times even though I've seen it all before. It's like a Clint Eastwood film - you know his character will get through to the end but you watch anyway. It's predictable but enjoyable, partly for that precise reason.
Indeed. It's easy viewing, a bit of escapism from today's rubbish TV. You know what is going to happen, but you don't care. Like watching the A Team. They always rocked up, fell out with the local bully, built a tank out of tinfoil, armed to the teeth, nobody died, BA was always drugged to fly, baddies ran away. Still watched it each week.
Tyre Smoke said:
Indeed. It's easy viewing, a bit of escapism from today's rubbish TV. You know what is going to happen, but you don't care. Like watching the A Team. They always rocked up, fell out with the local bully, built a tank out of tinfoil, armed to the teeth, nobody died, BA was always drugged to fly, baddies ran away. Still watched it each week.
I disagree with the idea that they're all the same. It's similar but if the odd episode of the A Team won an Emmy. As mentioned piece about the Mondeo was excellent, and I'm a millennial with a particular loathing for all Fords so it's not like I was enjoying the nostalgia or whatever. I do think you can tell when their heart is in it. The grass circuit in Lochdown time could've been spent with a brief rundown of the history of each car, a personal American car anecdote from any of them, or a hundred other things, which in the past they have done very well. It's odd that by now they still don't seem to know what works and what doesn't, perhaps their focus groups are lifelong fanboys and yes men who offer no real input. ThunderSpook said:
I disagree entirely. If you’ve put a price on it and I pay that price then as far as I’m concerned I can burn it there and then in front of you. Yes it might be a shame, but it’s not yours so you can’t get cross about it. If you want to get cross if it’s abused, don’t sell it.
Having just gone through this myself you are exactly right. After 28 years of careful and caring ownership I recently listed my '68 {make/model redacted} for sale due to declining health. I was clear in the listing that I had stressed originality in my stewardship of the car over the years and put a fairly stiff price on it. Someone appeared willing to pay that and I was glad to sell it on to them. I have zero confidence that they will keep it as original as I did but I really have to divorce myself from what I would do, since it isn't mine any more.As the 3 cars in the show were originally presented, the Riv was by far the least genuine, with its acid green metallic paint and various aftermarket bits, so the former owner really has very little to complain about.
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