Free breakfasts for school kids?

Free breakfasts for school kids?

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HertsBiker

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6,317 posts

273 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Surely not serious. If parents can't afford to feed their brood, why are they churning them out?

(source: BBC website )

Jamie VTS

1,238 posts

149 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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There are many different circumstances that may lead people to not be able to afford to feed themselves and surely the most important thing is that the kids are properly fed and are healthy regardless of their parents situation. Free school lunches have been around since 1944.

uncinquesei

917 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Free breakfasts have been available to school children in Wales for a few years. It's got nothing to do with parents not being able to pay for breakfast but is a very useful service that allows working parents to drop children off at school earlier, knowing they'll get something to eat and the parents can get off to work. Also, a surprising number of children, sadly, will not get breakfast at home.

SirSamuelBuca

1,353 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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the state some kids are in at school is appalling. My other half is a teacher and there are kids who come in who have not eaten anything since the free school lunch. How can you teach them anything they are off the planet from being malnourished.

Yes parents like that should not be allowed children, but they do have them.


dunmow70

198 posts

165 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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HertsBiker said:
Surely not serious. If parents can't afford to feed their brood, why are they churning them out?

(source: BBC website )
Because that is what a good society does. A good society lets you make bad choices, like ignoring the education you were offered by messing around instead of paying attention, or turning down a low paid job because it is beneath you or it means getting up before 8am, or choosing to breed with someone nature would otherwise have left on the sideline in survival of the fittest. A good society lets you do those things because those who did pay attention at school, and worked hard and long to achieve success, will happily hand over the fruits of their labours to those who, through their own choices, now find themselves falling on hard times. That's what a good society does.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

267 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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I massively resent paying tax, especially when it gets spent on stuff I can't use, like food for children, shelters for beaten wives and medical research in to illnesses I'll never have. Don't even think about talking about NHS treatment of infertility - it's investing in future tax wastage.

Still, I managed to avoid paying tax enough to buy myself a sense of proportion, and now I find I don't care enough to whine about it all the time on the internet.

I'm just glad I'm not a beaten wife with girl cancer and starving children.

I'm also pretty glad I got to go to university for free when all the thick and young people didn't.

jimxms

1,633 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Paying for some kids to have "the most important meal of the day" I don't mind. Paying for the mum Waynetta to sit at home on her fat arse watching Sky all day, I do.

CraigyMc

16,501 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Uh-oh, someone posting on the Daily Mail forums seems to have wandered into PH by accident...

Lanby

1,106 posts

216 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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jimxms said:
Paying for some kids to have "the most important meal of the day" I don't mind. Paying for the mum Waynetta to sit at home on her fat arse watching Sky all day, I do.
It would be nice if you had a choice where your tax is wasted spent.

MattGTA

419 posts

174 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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At the end of the day, if they're hungry kids for whatever reason, give them breakfast.




jas xjr

11,309 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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i do know of a neighbour who does not feed her kids properly . three cars on the drive immaculate house . maybe living beyond their means but the kids have margerine sandwiches for lunch .
if those kids get a decent breakfast at schooln i would not mind at all . i imagine it is not just the waynettas that do not have time / cannot be bothered to feed their kids in the morning

illmonkey

18,264 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Make it opt-in/out. Mandatory for people receiving benefits to opt in and the money deducted from their allowance. People not on benefits can also opt-in, if they need to drop the kids off earlier and it gets taken from their pay packet.

Benefits don't make me mad, its how they are abused that do. If I was in a position to require them, I'd not care if it was food vouchers, as long as I got some food. The less cash we give people on benefits the better the system will work.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Lanby said:
It would be nice if you had a choice where your tax is wasted spent.
If we did, people would only whine about how much it costs to implement the system whereby they get to choose what their taxes are spent on.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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doogz said:
Wait? Isn't the schooling free?

Scandalous. People shouldn't have kids if they can't afford to pay for their schooling.

What's that? They do? It's paid for via tax? In a similar manner to this new scheme?

Calm down, eh?
So tax is being increased to fund breakfasts or tax stays the same and some funds removed from teaching to pay for breakfasts?

Oakey

27,618 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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This is to deal with kids from the underclass not being fed by their parents in the morning. Nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunately, we can't target those parents individually because it's probably against their human rights to let their child starve so instead we have to feed all the kids, regardless of whether their parents do actually feed them.

They were interviewing kids on the TV who said they'd already had breakfast that morning!

illmonkey

18,264 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Oakey said:
This is to deal with kids from the underclass not being fed by their parents in the morning. Nothing more, nothing less. Unfortunately, we can't target those parents individually because it's probably against their human rights to let their child starve so instead we have to feed all the kids, regardless of whether their parents do actually feed them.

They were interviewing kids on the TV who said they'd already had breakfast that morning!
You couldn't make it up.

Future NHS money drainers these kids!

Oakey

27,618 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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It's worse really when you think about it, it's indoctrinating youngsters into the Labour mentality from an early age. Right from the off they'll now grow up with the belief that kids will be fed breakfast in school and it's not something they'll have to worry about doing themselves in the future and before long it'll be seen as another entitlement that will be difficult to remove.

Oh, and just to add, Labour leader Simon Blackburn wants to bring this into High Schools as well as introduce free lunches for all!

fido

16,876 posts

257 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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^That [Oakey]. Then in 2022 their moronic offspring (UK credit rating='BBB') will be chanting 'Cameron the Breakfast Snatcher' .. or something that rhymes better irked

jimxms

1,633 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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I would have thought there would be an age limit to the free breakfast thing? Pretty much like the free milk+snack kids get at school for the first few years. After which, you can either opt to pay for your child to continue receiving said milk+snack or not.

Puggit

48,532 posts

250 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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I have no problems with kids getting free school breakfasts IF the parents are investigated as to why this is happening.

There needs to be a carrot and a stick. If it's found the parents are smoking or drinking and their kids are going without, then let's look at what action can be taken. If it involves taking the children in to care and reducing the parents' benefits, so be it. Parents wilfully not feeding their kids breakfast but smoking 40 a day need to have their priorities re-aligned.