Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not! VOL 2

[Strocky]

Rollin said:

...and nationalists effectively voted for one. They're easily fooled though, look at the ste paper.

Fair point, just like the faux middle class Tory voters on Tax Credits

[hidetheelephants]

Halb said:

Northern Munkee said:

Just spitballing but would it be better if we were in some way better served by an executive branch (like the US) where we elect a prime minister who appoints the brightest and the best as the head of govt depts (not party MPs), approved and scrutinised by parliament?

The public would have to buy it, but the civil service would st a lung. It would erode them of power.
I'm gonna have to ponder on it.

We do have a weak form of it in SPADs, but that's st as too many of them are shills or party hacks rather than subject experts.

[Northern Munkee]

hidetheelephants said:

Halb said:

Northern Munkee said:

Just spitballing but would it be better if we were in some way better served by an executive branch (like the US) where we elect a prime minister who appoints the brightest and the best as the head of govt depts (not party MPs), approved and scrutinised by parliament?

The public would have to buy it, but the civil service would st a lung. It would erode them of power.
I'm gonna have to ponder on it.

We do have a weak form of it in SPADs, but that's st as too many of them are shills or party hacks rather than subject experts.

Exactly.

To be fair, they'd still fk it up with cronyism of another sort. But it's just nice day dreaming we might have experts in charge.

[MrBarry123]

Dearly me, the SNP really do have a bunch of cretinous tts within their organisation. What a nightmare of a woman.

[Sam All]

MrBarry123 said:

Dearly me, the SNP really do have a bunch of cretinous tts within their organisation. What a nightmare of a woman.

Makes the Abottosorus more sensible

[simoid]

Strocky said:

simoid said:

I find internet insults are infinitely more effective when they make sense.

That "SNP" women is ex Tory/Labour, so you're effectively apologising for a Westminster career politician

I know. She's horrendous, isn't she?

[r11co]

Strocky said:

That "SNP" women is ex Tory/Labour, so you're effectively apologising for a Westminster career politician

The irony in that statement is off the scale. Tasmina 'speaks for Scotland', dontcha know.

[simoid]

r11co said:

Strocky said:

That "SNP" women is ex Tory/Labour, so you're effectively apologising for a Westminster career politician

The irony in that statement is off the scale. Tasmina 'speaks for Scotland', dontcha know.

It's as if the SNP candidates who prostrated about "career politicians" were just saying anything to get elected.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Northern Munkee said:

Halb said:

Northern Munkee said:

Steve vRS said:

As usual, a non-party expert makes the politicians look stupid.

Steve

It's what's wrong with our red blue politics stuck with their political dogma/idealogy rather than a pragmatic, "what works", sensible solutions to problems. We need to reinvent our politics (that'll never happen)

Pretty much.
The SNP woman isn't any worse than Beaker or the Thornbush.
Helmer isn't a big a helmet tonight as I've sene him, but then, we've had no social issues to chat about.
But yeah, the independent critical thinker, yet again, talks about the subject, and not party twaddle.

Just spitballing but would it be better if we were in some way better served by an executive branch (like the US) where we elect a prime minister who appoints the brightest and the best as the head of govt depts (not party MPs), approved and scrutinised by parliament?

Not really. In the US they end up appointing money grabbing top execs from the likes of Goldman Sachs. No thanks. US politics isn't exactly any less of a joke than ours. Its just a different shade of st.

Government is positions of power and money and it doesn't matter how you arrange the chairs, it just attracts a certain type of , that if not out purely for their own gain are not really in touch with the real world.

[r11co]

simoid said:

r11co said:

Strocky said:

That "SNP" women is ex Tory/Labour, so you're effectively apologising for a Westminster career politician

The irony in that statement is off the scale. Tasmina 'speaks for Scotland', dontcha know.

It's as if the SNP candidates who prostrated about "career politicians" were just saying anything to get elected.

That's the first time I have seen Strocky try to disown something to do with his beloved would-be liberators. Cracks are indeed beginning to show?!

Thing is, Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh takes the whip and wears the rosette, so until such time as she joins McGarry and Thomson in the sin-bin the quotation marks are inappropriate.

[DMN]

I wondered why last night was similar to an episode of The Thick of It:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/mar/18/bud...

[hidetheelephants]

The backpedalling begins; at least George has a track record of bailing on things(if not acknowledging it as such) that attract such universal opprobrium, Gordo tended to just keep buggering on regardless of how awful his decisions played out.

[dcb]

Steve vRS said:

As usual, a non-party expert makes the politicians look stupid.

+1

Littlewood was the best thing I've seen on QT in weeks.

The sanity he brought to the discussion, as well as his impeccable manners,
(Owen Jones and Dianne Abbott please take note) were a refreshing delight.

The Tory and the Labour ladies were about what I would expect i.e.
keen to trot out the tired old party line, so much so that it was
worthwhile to mute the TV sound when they were speaking.

SNP girl in striking yellow outfit should go back to student politics
and learn some lessons about how to debate. Indeed, I've heard better
material from teenage kids.

Roger Helmet from the UKIP was somewhat underwhelming.

[Ayahuasca]

Nicky Morgan flosses her teeth with CMD's arse pubes.

[mybrainhurts]

Slightly off topic, but Any Questions on Radio 4 left me a touch bewildered the other day. That Labour Chukka Wallahbollah (sp?) chap said something like "we spent £39 billion on interest last year. I'd rather see that spent on blah or blah or blah..."

Call me Doubting Thomas, me old Chukka, but I don't think you can choose not to pay interest. Or is this the New New Labour new economics?

[irocfan]

mybrainhurts said:

Slightly off topic, but Any Questions on Radio 4 left me a touch bewildered the other day. That Labour Chukka Wallahbollah (sp?) chap said something like "we spent £39 billion on interest last year. I'd rather see that spent on blah or blah or blah..."

Call me Doubting Thomas, me old Chukka, but I don't think you can choose not to pay interest. Or is this the New New Labour new economics?

call me foolish me old Chukka - but wasn't it your lot that presided over this cluster-fk that's left us needing to pay such high levels of interest.....

[don4l]

irocfan said:

mybrainhurts said:

Slightly off topic, but Any Questions on Radio 4 left me a touch bewildered the other day. That Labour Chukka Wallahbollah (sp?) chap said something like "we spent £39 billion on interest last year. I'd rather see that spent on blah or blah or blah..."

Call me Doubting Thomas, me old Chukka, but I don't think you can choose not to pay interest. Or is this the New New Labour new economics?

call me foolish me old Chukka - but wasn't it your lot that presided over this cluster-fk that's left us needing to pay such high levels of interest.....

I don't know if Chukka is incredibly dense, or if he thinks that the voters are incredibly dense. I suspect the latter.

He knows that he is lying, but he knows that the people who vote for him are too thick to see through his deception.

"On the backs of the discontented shall ye climb to power."

[mcelliott]

Le Vette said:

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Best lineup in ages

[Laurel Green]

Well that's me out then!

[Halb]

Show's finally got that new title then.