Discussion
SWoll said:
Tyre Smoke said:
I see no issue if you go to the pub and are sensible. Distancing, obviously and hand sanitizing often.
The problem is, not everyone has that common sense approach, hence the Govt advice of don't go out.
Clueless. And you talk about other peoples common sense..The problem is, not everyone has that common sense approach, hence the Govt advice of don't go out.
My point was that the recommendation was given precisely because the average
is unable to follow common sense and needs to be told what to do all the time. The standard 'nobody told me' defence is what everyone uses. It is because of this that the Government has to combat Big Daz's 'advice' on social media by official announcements telling us not to go out socialising. The intelligent would understand that we don't need to be told that and because the safe distance is 2 metres or six feet and we need to wash our hands often and beware of contact with other people. The intelligent among us also know we don't need to stockpile food, but shop normally. Unfortunately it would appear the majority of the UK population has taken Big Daz's advice on Facebook and now has a credit card debt they cannot service, but a spare room they cannot close the door on because it's full of toilet roll and pasta.
SWoll said:
Clueless. And you talk about other peoples common sense..
So it's ok to go panic buying with many people you don't know jostling for bogroll and boxes of pot noodles in close proximity to each other?i'm pubbing tonight and tomorrow but I don't generally go to busy city centre pubs just my back street locals where I will be drinking with the same people I normally do probably 4 or 6 of us in the whole pub who are responsible people and would definitely not go out if they were ill or had any symptoms at all.
I'm certain but not totally that I had it 2 weeks ago,sore throat,high temp overnight and unable to move much for dizziness the next day,bit of a cough and took a few days off work,was fine after 4 days.
Tyre Smoke said:
SWoll said:
Tyre Smoke said:
I see no issue if you go to the pub and are sensible. Distancing, obviously and hand sanitizing often.
The problem is, not everyone has that common sense approach, hence the Govt advice of don't go out.
Clueless. And you talk about other peoples common sense..The problem is, not everyone has that common sense approach, hence the Govt advice of don't go out.
My point was that the recommendation was given precisely because the average
is unable to follow common sense and needs to be told what to do all the time. The standard 'nobody told me' defence is what everyone uses. It is because of this that the Government has to combat Big Daz's 'advice' on social media by official announcements telling us not to go out socialising. The intelligent would understand that we don't need to be told that and because the safe distance is 2 metres or six feet and we need to wash our hands often and beware of contact with other people. The intelligent among us also know we don't need to stockpile food, but shop normally. Unfortunately it would appear the majority of the UK population has taken Big Daz's advice on Facebook and now has a credit card debt they cannot service, but a spare room they cannot close the door on because it's full of toilet roll and pasta.
Sambucket said:
Tyre Smoke said:
The Govt were asking us all to not go to pubs and restaurants without forcing a 'lockdown'. Clearly their model is based on a percentage take up in their advice. They admitted as much at the daily presser yesterday.
I assume there is a trigger point of deaths where this policy is escalated. garagewidow said:
i'm pubbing tonight and tomorrow but I don't generally go to busy city centre pubs just my back street locals where I will be drinking with the same people I normally do probably 4 or 6 of us in the whole pub who are responsible people and would definitely not go out if they were ill or had any symptoms at all.
This is why stricter controls will be brought in. People can't be trusted to be sensible or consider others.crankedup said:
One of the biggest problems is the incubation period of this virus, up to two weeks before symptoms
display means you are passing on the virus without knowing it. This is why Social distancing and hand washing so important apparently.
An adviser to govt on this issue was on the radio in the week having contracted it himself. He said it was most infectious when the symptoms emerged and one day before. display means you are passing on the virus without knowing it. This is why Social distancing and hand washing so important apparently.
Tyre Smoke said:
The Govt were asking us all to not go to pubs and restaurants without forcing a 'lockdown'. Clearly their model is based on a percentage take up in their advice. They admitted as much at the daily presser yesterday.
They admitted that a percentage of people were not being sensible. That's hardly an endorsement to carry on going to pubs. If you read it as the Government requiring people to continue going to the pub so their models would be correct ,then I'm afraid you may have drastically misunderstood.
mx5nut said:
garagewidow said:
i'm pubbing tonight and tomorrow but I don't generally go to busy city centre pubs just my back street locals where I will be drinking with the same people I normally do probably 4 or 6 of us in the whole pub who are responsible people and would definitely not go out if they were ill or had any symptoms at all.
This is why stricter controls will be brought in. People can't be trusted to be sensible or consider others.How would you know you were ill or not? You can be infected and show no symptoms.
Many of the first hand reports of people who do show symptoms illustrate that few or none are present during the first 7 days.
Tyre Smoke said:
The Govt were asking us all to not go to pubs and restaurants without forcing a 'lockdown'. Clearly their model is based on a percentage take up in their advice. They admitted as much at the daily presser yesterday.
So what you're saying is you're ignoring the government advice on the basis that it was issued overcautiously to ensure uptake by those would otherwise fail to see common sense and ignore the advice?That logic is the same as circumventing a mandated a lockdown which was implemented because people were ignoring what was previously merely advised, because you deem that something they've only done to make more people stay at home.
Then they start shooting people on the street and you say they're only doing that in case people don't stay at home where they're merely forced to, but it's OK for a few people to still be out.
I've never used an insult on here but you're an idiot.
Seems a lot of people are shrugging the Coronavirus off as "just flu" when, in point of fact, according to doctors in Italy, in most cases, it turns into pneumonia which has the potential to kill even fit, healthy, young individuals. The fact it is older people generally is moot IMHO.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-i...
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-i...
Digga said:
Seems a lot of people are shrugging the Coronavirus off as "just flu" when, in point of fact, according to doctors in Italy, in most cases, it turns into pneumonia which has the potential to kill even fit, healthy, young individuals. The fact it is older people generally is moot IMHO.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-i...
In most cases the symptoms are fairly mild. Perhaps you mean in most cases where people become seriously ill it's diagnosed as viral pneumonia? Incidentally I saw that report from Italy it looks horrific.https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-i...
R Mutt said:
Tyre Smoke said:
The Govt were asking us all to not go to pubs and restaurants without forcing a 'lockdown'. Clearly their model is based on a percentage take up in their advice. They admitted as much at the daily presser yesterday.
So what you're saying is you're ignoring the government advice on the basis that it was issued overcautiously to ensure uptake by those would otherwise fail to see common sense and ignore the advice?That logic is the same as circumventing a mandated a lockdown which was implemented because people were ignoring what was previously merely advised, because you deem that something they've only done to make more people stay at home.
Then they start shooting people on the street and you say they're only doing that in case people don't stay at home where they're merely forced to, but it's OK for a few people to still be out.
I've never used an insult on here but you're an idiot.
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