Diabetes will bankrupt the NHS

[Digga]

Kermit power said:

Digga said:

Kermit power said:

It has sod all to do with a "diversity matrix". Go and look at the food available to hospital staff, especially when they're working a night shift. It's generally woeful, and often comes out of vending machines.

Take a healthy packed lunch then, like every other that doesn’t need have state sponsored, spoon fed help to figure their life out.

Before you get uppity. I have 3 friends who are nurses. None are fat. It’s not compulsory.

Where are you going to store said packed lunch? My SIL is a hospital doctor who bemoans the fact that she's not allowed to store one in a morgue drawer or with refrigerated drugs, and there's certainly nowhere else she can put it!

I did not think it was legal not to provide some basic storage for possessions in a work place. Every H&S visit we've ever had alwyas looks at that.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/simple-health-safety/workpl...

[IroningMan]

Digga said:

The people who dream this zero vehicle crap up must live in some sort of intellectual vacuum.

Every single good or service that needs vehicular movement is impacted and, therefore, ends up costing more.

Zero vehicle? No such thing outside of the heads of people who don't want anything to change. Surely even you can see, though, that fewer needless journeys by car and more on foot/by bike means that a) the necessary vehicle trips you are describing become quicker and easier and b) people get a little bit healthier?

[Kermit power]

DannyScene said:

Tankrizzo said:

DannyScene said:

I've always wondered why Type 1 diabetics don't pay for any prescriptions at all, I get the insulin being free and even the freestyle libre sensors to alleviate the need for finger pricks multiple times a day but literally every prescription they're exempt from, Surely that costs the NHS a huge amount!

As a T1 I have wondered this too, my GP told me it would be a logistical nightmare to change everything so you only get the stuff you need for free and the rest you pay for, but I wonder how much of that is just "well it's always been like that so that's how it is".

Conversely I very rarely need prescriptions for anything else not related to either diabetes or Addison's Disease so I don't feel too bad.

It is very strange and probably is a case of its been like that forever so why change it, I'd happily pay for my other prescriptions, quite glad I don't pay for my actual insulin though!

Are you on the freestyle libre sensors? They've been a god send for me

My wife (T1 for 40+ years) reckons it makes it easier for GPs to chuck things like Ibersartin and Statins at diabetics to treat symptoms of diabetes-related conditions rather than taking the harder route of actually helping people to treat the root causes.

Also worth bearing in mind that most T1 diabetics look after themselves much better than most of the rest of the population, so if you strip out prescriptions for insulin and conditions directly related to the diabetes, there's hardly anything left anyway.

[HTP99]

Digga said:

Kermit power said:

Digga said:

Kermit power said:

It has sod all to do with a "diversity matrix". Go and look at the food available to hospital staff, especially when they're working a night shift. It's generally woeful, and often comes out of vending machines.

Take a healthy packed lunch then, like every other that doesn’t need have state sponsored, spoon fed help to figure their life out.

Before you get uppity. I have 3 friends who are nurses. None are fat. It’s not compulsory.

Where are you going to store said packed lunch? My SIL is a hospital doctor who bemoans the fact that she's not allowed to store one in a morgue drawer or with refrigerated drugs, and there's certainly nowhere else she can put it!

I did not think it was legal not to provide some basic storage for possessions in a work place. Every H&S visit we've ever had alwyas looks at that.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/simple-health-safety/workpl...

I take homemade salad to work every day, it stays in my bag, which is by my desk, we do have a fridge but I don't use it.

[hidetheelephants]

Kermit power said:

Digga said:

Kermit power said:

It has sod all to do with a "diversity matrix". Go and look at the food available to hospital staff, especially when they're working a night shift. It's generally woeful, and often comes out of vending machines.

Take a healthy packed lunch then, like every other that doesn’t need have state sponsored, spoon fed help to figure their life out.

Before you get uppity. I have 3 friends who are nurses. None are fat. It’s not compulsory.

Where are you going to store said packed lunch? My SIL is a hospital doctor who bemoans the fact that she's not allowed to store one in a morgue drawer or with refrigerated drugs, and there's certainly nowhere else she can put it!

Not even a locker? That's the same school of management that doesn't think night shifts need proper food or that wearing scrubs to commute to and from work is completely fine.

[matchmaker]

DannyScene said:

Tankrizzo said:

DannyScene said:

I've always wondered why Type 1 diabetics don't pay for any prescriptions at all, I get the insulin being free and even the freestyle libre sensors to alleviate the need for finger pricks multiple times a day but literally every prescription they're exempt from, Surely that costs the NHS a huge amount!

As a T1 I have wondered this too, my GP told me it would be a logistical nightmare to change everything so you only get the stuff you need for free and the rest you pay for, but I wonder how much of that is just "well it's always been like that so that's how it is".

Conversely I very rarely need prescriptions for anything else not related to either diabetes or Addison's Disease so I don't feel too bad.

It is very strange and probably is a case of its been like that forever so why change it, I'd happily pay for my other prescriptions, quite glad I don't pay for my actual insulin though!

Are you on the freestyle libre sensors? They've been a god send for me

My son is T1. He was diagnosed when he was 5 and will be 31 next month. He's been on the Libre sensors for about a year now. They have made a huge difference. No painful finger pricks and he can check his blood sugar in seconds using his phone.

[bigpriest]

Kermit power said:

DannyScene said:

Tankrizzo said:

DannyScene said:

I've always wondered why Type 1 diabetics don't pay for any prescriptions at all, I get the insulin being free and even the freestyle libre sensors to alleviate the need for finger pricks multiple times a day but literally every prescription they're exempt from, Surely that costs the NHS a huge amount!

As a T1 I have wondered this too, my GP told me it would be a logistical nightmare to change everything so you only get the stuff you need for free and the rest you pay for, but I wonder how much of that is just "well it's always been like that so that's how it is".

Conversely I very rarely need prescriptions for anything else not related to either diabetes or Addison's Disease so I don't feel too bad.

It is very strange and probably is a case of its been like that forever so why change it, I'd happily pay for my other prescriptions, quite glad I don't pay for my actual insulin though!

Are you on the freestyle libre sensors? They've been a god send for me

My wife (T1 for 40+ years) reckons it makes it easier for GPs to chuck things like Ibersartin and Statins at diabetics to treat symptoms of diabetes-related conditions rather than taking the harder route of actually helping people to treat the root causes.

Also worth bearing in mind that most T1 diabetics look after themselves much better than most of the rest of the population, so if you strip out prescriptions for insulin and conditions directly related to the diabetes, there's hardly anything left anyway.

The "looking after yourself a bit more" would also apply to heart attack patients who have been through rehab and require around 6 different medications, but this isn't covered by a medical exemption.

[Saweep]

My mother cannot cook. She's 70. She hasn't ever really worked since she met my father in her early 20s.

She was a radical feminist of the 60s/70s. Somehow believed that women shouldn't do domestic chores of any sort and that the fairies would take care of these things and when there were no fairies available, magic supermarket meals and hired help would take up the slack.

Growing up my grandma, who lived with us, cooked the majority of the time (the fairy).

Mother encouraged my sisters down her same path; neither can cook a thing and oddly have ended up with husbands that love to and do most cooking. Both believe it is demeaning, as stomping boss-babe professionals, somehow for them to prepare any food themselves.

I don't know how to cook much but I have no ideological issues with feeding myself as necessary.


So I blame feminism.

[johnboy1975]

JagLover said:

Digga said:

In fairness to both parties, the UK roads are barely large enough to carry modern cars with ease, let alone safe space for cyclists. I 'could' cycle commute by road within about 45 mins but don't because a.) the A road is busy and narrow and bikes are both a danger and delay to traffic and b.) I doubt I'd live long.

Other European nations have done things far better, with regard to the providion of dedicated cycle routes. The UK, by contrast, has been one of the lowest spending on major roads for the last 40 years within it's economic and geographic cohort.

I am moving back to an area that has excellent provision for both cyclists and walkers in the next few weeks. So part of the solution is to require that new build estates are built to this standard. No driver is affected by this as you have a nice dual carriageway to get out of the area once you have left the local roads.

For longer distance you could expand dedicated cycle ways that are away from roads, on a similar basis to how they have made use of old railway track.

Making things better for walking and cycling does not automatically equal making things worse for motorists and often the latter gives no benefit to the former.

Often it means exactly that, as roads are narrowed to make cycling lanes. Or pedestrian zones where cars are banned completely