Law criminalizing denying things...

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Derek Smith said:

Thanks for that. I've been spared the experience.

It seems odd though to someone like me who's only been to the touristy areas. I've seen blacks and whites intermingling with no apparent problem - just like here. We have lots of schools come over to Brighton before the summer holidays and the blacks and whites dress identically. There doesn't seem to be the different racial based subculture that is presumed to be a problem in this country.

I've always harboured the hope that they did things differently and well.

Ah, well. Another dream shattered.

Those would have been from the nice bit of Paris. The Banilues are effectively ghettos, Parisians will tell you not to go there. It's probably worse in France than in any other country I've ever been to, including the USA.

[Derek Smith]

DonkeyApple said:

All kids dressing identically is not a healthy sign

Not lived in Brighton much then.

DonkeyApple said:

I've spent about half my life outside of the UK and quite a lot now in Europe. There is no doubt in my mind that elementary racism runs much deeper in Europe than here.

When at Gatwick my shift stopped an artic bringing in a number of economic illegals from a country now in the EU. They had gone via a circuitous route, including Italy, Germany, France and a bit of Belgium and so were in a bit of a state after all that time in a confined space.

I asked one of them why they didn't get out in other EU countries and his reply was to tell me how both the foreign police and the locals had treated their friends who had tried just that.

Immigration in this country weren't that bothered, just telling them to turn up the following day at an address we had to write down for them. Their point of view was that by the time they could kick them out they'd be able to stay legally.

Poor border controls aside, someone on my shift mentioned our racial mix of the shift (2 x Poles, 2 x Jews, lots of Irish, and a chap born of British telephone engineers on a French speaking Indian Ocean island) as a cause yet the French defences have been breached more times than those of Shoredith Lil.

I prefer our way.