Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
Discussion
Unreal said:
I think he'd be far better concentrating on a Project Fear type policy regarding what havoc Labour policies would cause than continuing on his present path over over promising and under delivering. Covid proved how fear can be used to motivate, however much some academics would like us to believe it doesn't.
Is this satire? Or is he praying people forget Boris - lied to everyone, even himself, had parties in Downing Street, wasted money during Covid, removed almost everyone in the Party who disagreed with his version of Brexit, gave Honours to all of his mates including the 27 year old blond assistant? Or maybe Truss, who lasted 49 (42?) days in office, and caused so much havoc the BoE had to intervene and inject liquidity into the pensions system, also caused everyone's mortgages to go up.
Project fear? The evidence is there. The national debt is 50% higher today than it was when they left the note that "the money has gone". Taxes are higher. NHS waiting lists are longer. Councils are cutting services and going bust due to cuts in government funding. Project fear, its the Tory's we should be fearful of!
Condi said:
Unreal said:
I think he'd be far better concentrating on a Project Fear type policy regarding what havoc Labour policies would cause than continuing on his present path over over promising and under delivering. Covid proved how fear can be used to motivate, however much some academics would like us to believe it doesn't.
Is this satire? Or is he praying people forget Boris - lied to everyone, even himself, had parties in Downing Street, wasted money during Covid, removed almost everyone in the Party who disagreed with his version of Brexit, gave Honours to all of his mates including the 27 year old blond assistant? Or maybe Truss, who lasted 49 (42?) days in office, and caused so much havoc the BoE had to intervene and inject liquidity into the pensions system, also caused everyone's mortgages to go up.
Project fear? The evidence is there. The national debt is 50% higher today than it was when they left the note that "the money has gone". Taxes are higher. NHS waiting lists are longer. Councils are cutting services and going bust due to cuts in government funding. Project fear, its the Tory's we should be fearful of!
abzmike said:
In other news, seems that the Lib Dems are going to throw a no confidence motion into the ring this week - the debate should be amusing, and likely uncomfortable for the great helmsman.
Standard oppo party pot stirring, it's what they're supposed to do, Anyway, chuckling at the sisters raging against somethng like free basic broadband AND s
t productivity. They're so close to the breakthrough but just can't see round that giant pulsing shibboleth in their heads marked socialism to make the connection. Ideology is such a handicap.On which note, Sunak's hung parliament schtick is insulting. He really does thinks you, yes you are stupid. Still, we get to do unisex toilets for a few days until the next s
tshow.abzmike said:
In other news, seems that the Lib Dems are going to throw a no confidence motion into the ring this week - the debate should be amusing, and likely uncomfortable for the great helmsman.
I don't know how much time they get in the house but that does seem a waste of time and what I'd call gesture politics.President Merkin said:
He really does thinks you, yes you are stupid. Still, we get to do unisex toilets for a few days until the next stshow.
Yes, very much caring about the things which matter. tshow.Honestly, how can even the most ardent tory supporters tell anyone with a straight face that this is the most important thing for the government to be doing, and the best use of parliamentary time?
Its gone beyond satire, and if this is "the plan" Rishi wants us to trust then he's not reading the room very well.
Condi said:
Unreal said:
I think he'd be far better concentrating on a Project Fear type policy regarding what havoc Labour policies would cause than continuing on his present path over over promising and under delivering. Covid proved how fear can be used to motivate, however much some academics would like us to believe it doesn't.
Is this satire? Or is he praying people forget Boris - lied to everyone, even himself, had parties in Downing Street, wasted money during Covid, removed almost everyone in the Party who disagreed with his version of Brexit, gave Honours to all of his mates including the 27 year old blond assistant? Or maybe Truss, who lasted 49 (42?) days in office, and caused so much havoc the BoE had to intervene and inject liquidity into the pensions system, also caused everyone's mortgages to go up.
Project fear? The evidence is there. The national debt is 50% higher today than it was when they left the note that "the money has gone". Taxes are higher. NHS waiting lists are longer. Councils are cutting services and going bust due to cuts in government funding. Project fear, its the Tory's we should be fearful of!
I want to live in Utopia just like everyone else. I just want to know who is going to pay for it. Other than the non-doms, Labour policy on that seems to be a bit threadbare whereas the shopping list is nice and juicy.
Rishi needs to hammer home this disparity. I honestly don't think it will make any difference but the thread is about him so we can either close it now because we know he is going to California and Labour will have a 200 seat majority or we can continue to talk about the man and his options.
So do you want the thread to be limited to how awful Rishi and the Tories are, in which case we can close the thread or combine it with the Trump thread, or would it be ok with you to explore other options, such as how Rishi and the Tories may try and extricate themselves from the hole they're in?
I was talking to my errant father about this last night. Over a nice pint of Cotswold Pale. He is a self described ‘natural conservative’.
He said something like ‘the Conservative Party has always relied on people voting in narrow self-interest but, now, nobody voting even in their own narrow self interest is going to vote for them.’
He tells me he’s going to vote for Starmer. Quite something. This is the Tories absolute core. A dyed-in-the-wool, allotment dwelling resident of Henley-on-Thames.
If they really have lost people like him, then they really are in serious st. He’s voted Conservative since the 1960’s.
He said something like ‘the Conservative Party has always relied on people voting in narrow self-interest but, now, nobody voting even in their own narrow self interest is going to vote for them.’
He tells me he’s going to vote for Starmer. Quite something. This is the Tories absolute core. A dyed-in-the-wool, allotment dwelling resident of Henley-on-Thames.
If they really have lost people like him, then they really are in serious s
t. He’s voted Conservative since the 1960’s. Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 7th May 08:47
I would be very surprised if they can extricate themselves from the hole they have been digging since 2016. The problem is they don't stop digging it, they just double down and bring in an extra shovel.
IMO they have totally missed the point about the things that concern most people. If you are working on say the living wage, things are tight, you are more worried about the cost of living than about culture wars, you are more worried about whether your elderly mum has to wait 2 years for a knee op,and your cousin who was sexually assaulted and has PTSD can't get a mental health appointment for 18 months.
On top of that, your car was damaged by a pothole and you can't afford to get it fixed, you can't get to work by train because they are on strike again and bus services have been reduced by 14% since 2014.
But yeah the war on trans, making homelessness illegal, pissing £500m up the wall on a deterrent that has already failed, and ensuring people who cant get healthcare have their benefits cut is definitely the way to win votes.........
Their track record is a failure to deliver on things that people see and feel the most.
IMO they have totally missed the point about the things that concern most people. If you are working on say the living wage, things are tight, you are more worried about the cost of living than about culture wars, you are more worried about whether your elderly mum has to wait 2 years for a knee op,and your cousin who was sexually assaulted and has PTSD can't get a mental health appointment for 18 months.
On top of that, your car was damaged by a pothole and you can't afford to get it fixed, you can't get to work by train because they are on strike again and bus services have been reduced by 14% since 2014.
But yeah the war on trans, making homelessness illegal, pissing £500m up the wall on a deterrent that has already failed, and ensuring people who cant get healthcare have their benefits cut is definitely the way to win votes.........
Their track record is a failure to deliver on things that people see and feel the most.
President Merkin said:
Mostly because there's always a small army of mouth breathers only too ready to be semi profesional empty vessels.
But it's always other people who are "offended", not them. carlo996 said:
Start with the vapes, and tattoos…..cost money. Think of the children.
You must be exhausted being outraged about literally everything?
You must be exhausted being outraged about literally everything?
W124 said:
I was talking to my errant father about this last night. Over a nice pint of Cotswold Pale. He is a self described ‘natural conservative’.
He said something like ‘the Conservative Party has always relied on people voting in narrow self-interest but, now, nobody voting even in their own narrow self interest is going to vote for them.’
He tells me he’s going to vote for Starmer. Quite something. This is the Tories absolute core. A dyed-in-the-wool, allotment dwelling resident of Henley-on-Thames.
If they really have lost people like him, then they really are in serious st. He’s voted Conservative since the 1960’s.
At least he is sensible enough not to vote Reform. He said something like ‘the Conservative Party has always relied on people voting in narrow self-interest but, now, nobody voting even in their own narrow self interest is going to vote for them.’
He tells me he’s going to vote for Starmer. Quite something. This is the Tories absolute core. A dyed-in-the-wool, allotment dwelling resident of Henley-on-Thames.
If they really have lost people like him, then they really are in serious s
t. He’s voted Conservative since the 1960’s. Edited by W124 on Tuesday 7th May 08:47
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