Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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bitchstewie

58,622 posts

225 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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S600BSB said:
Interesting chat with Kwarteng on the Rest is Politics pod. Says he wouldn’t vote Tory if he was in his 20s!
It's the question I asked a page ago.

Still waiting for anyone to give me a reason.

turbobloke

111,866 posts

275 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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bhstewie said:
S600BSB said:
Interesting chat with Kwarteng on the Rest is Politics pod. Says he wouldn’t vote Tory if he was in his 20s!
It's the question I asked a page ago.

Still waiting for anyone to give me a reason.
Who, not being 20, can speak for somebody who's 20 - so an obvious general reply is, somebody not basing their decision purely on short-term self-interest. Alien to Labour supporters it would seem.

With Starmer saying it's time to turn the page, that depends on what's on the next page.

768

16,652 posts

111 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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turbobloke said:
bhstewie said:
S600BSB said:
Interesting chat with Kwarteng on the Rest is Politics pod. Says he wouldn’t vote Tory if he was in his 20s!
It's the question I asked a page ago.

Still waiting for anyone to give me a reason.
Who, not being 20, can speak for somebody who's 20 - so an obvious general reply is, somebody not basing their decision purely on short-term self-interest. Alien to Labour supporters it would seem.

With Starmer saying it's time to turn the page, that depends on what's on the next page.
It was a daft question a page ago anyway.

No one same votes for any party for a single reason. Most of the time they don't vote for a party at all, they vote against the most damaging of the two options as a whole. No wonder no one's answering it.

bitchstewie

58,622 posts

225 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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Just one reason.

Shouldn't be too difficult.

What's the offer?

768

16,652 posts

111 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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It doesn't get less daft by repeating it.

bitchstewie

58,622 posts

225 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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How is it daft?

I think it's telling that nobody is even attempting to give a single reason.

I hope Sunak doesn't run into any young voters on the campaign trail.

Then again if he does they'll probably be Young Conservatives planted in the audience.

President Merkin

4,297 posts

34 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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bhstewie said:
How is it daft?


I hope Sunak doesn't run into any young voters on the campaign trail.
That would be novel. So far it's been exclusively Tory plants in hi viz's Maybe they're doing community service.

Meanwhile, in satire is dead news, Sunak wants us to live in the plot of Starship Troopers. hahahaha.


119

11,836 posts

51 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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bhstewie said:
How is it daft?

I think it's telling that nobody is even attempting to give a single reason.

I hope Sunak doesn't run into any young voters on the campaign trail.

Then again if he does they'll probably be Young Conservatives planted in the audience.
Tell you what, let’s turn this around for a mo.

Can you give us a reason why anyone should vote for Labour for eg?

‘Not Tories’ is not a valid answer.

BigMon

5,237 posts

144 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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Few amusing memes going round on social media.




Riff Raff

5,316 posts

210 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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President Merkin said:
bhstewie said:
How is it daft?


I hope Sunak doesn't run into any young voters on the campaign trail.
That would be novel. So far it's been exclusively Tory plants in hi viz's Maybe they're doing community service.

Meanwhile, in satire is dead news, Sunak wants us to live in the plot of Starship Troopers. hahahaha.

Do you want to know more?



bitchstewie

58,622 posts

225 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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Mr Penguin

3,456 posts

54 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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I think as far as Rishi is concerned, he would be best advised to ignore them. Young people vote Conservative less and less (a thirty year trend) and even if he can turn things around and somehow get two full terms, he won't personally benefit from that. Even if you assume the polls are very low, they show something like 1-2% of 18-24 will vote Tory, so even with a generous ceiling of 10% after the campaign it won't make a big difference, especially if it affects the vote elsewhere.

For the party as a whole, young people are becoming more left wing all the time, so eventually they will have to move to the left as they did during the post-war consensus and return to the pragmatism that made them the natural party of government for so long or become the opposition party of protest like Labour have always been.

President Merkin

4,297 posts

34 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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Wombat3

13,636 posts

221 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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bitchstewie

58,622 posts

225 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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President Merkin said:
Here's one. The NHS currently spends around £5 billion per year on agency staff due to chronic shortages of clinical staff. The Government's response as I showed you above is to require public sector workers to undertake national service, thereby making it even harder to recruit permanent staff. Now I'm well aware joining dots is difficult for you, but I can't spend all day doing it, so please put down your relentless cognitive bias & have a think for once.
To be fair my question was specifically around younger voters so 18-24.

Penguin has been honest enough to say ignore them they won't vote Conservative anyway.

I doubt the Conservatives will be honest enough to say that.

119

11,836 posts

51 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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President Merkin

4,297 posts

34 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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bhstewie said:
To be fair my question was specifically around younger voters so 18-24.

Penguin has been honest enough to say ignore them they won't vote Conservative anyway.

I doubt the Conservatives will be honest enough to say that.
All that may be so but makes me laugh when the Tory crew start banging on about cohesion & the social contract, just one post above yours. Nothing says society quite like stting relentlessly on about ten percent of it. I'd like to to see our resident right wingers square that one off while urging us to vote for the Tories.

bitchstewie

58,622 posts

225 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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Wombat3 said:
Probably the latter.

Given the state of our society & the general lack of cohesion etc, is it such a bad thing to do this?

Aside from "they might not want to do it", why is it such a bad idea in principle?
What will you be volunteering to do?

Wombat3

13,636 posts

221 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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No answer as to why its actually a bad idea then aside from where it came from?

p1stonhead

27,677 posts

182 months

Monday 27th May 2024
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Riff Raff said:
President Merkin said:
bhstewie said:
How is it daft?


I hope Sunak doesn't run into any young voters on the campaign trail.
That would be novel. So far it's been exclusively Tory plants in hi viz's Maybe they're doing community service.

Meanwhile, in satire is dead news, Sunak wants us to live in the plot of Starship Troopers. hahahaha.

Do you want to know more?


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