US Elections 2012 Obama v Romney Official Thread
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We all know what democrats think of Romney but what about his own people, republicans? Here's a few opinions from his GOP colleagues and supporters.
Newt Gingrich said:
“Most Republicans, probably 70% of them, know that they want someone other than Romney”.
Louie Gomert said:
“If you’re not sure about whether to support Mitt Romney, whether you’re liberal, or whether you’re very conservative, you ought to be excited, because he’s been on your side at one time or another.
John Mccain said:
"The truth is, Mitt Romney was a liberal governor of Massachusetts who raised taxes, imposed with Ted Kennedy a big government mandate health care plan that is now a quarter of a billion dollars in the red, and managed his state's economy incompetently, leaving Massachusetts with less job growth than 46 other states."…………"this is a wholesale deception of voters. On every one of the issues he has attacked us on, Mitt Romney was for it before he was against it."
Mick Huckabee said:
“He spent more time on the road to Damascus than a Syrian camel driver. And we thought nobody could fill John Kerry’s flip-flops! … [Romney's record was] “anything but conservative until he changed all the light bulbs in his chandelier in time to run for President.”
Bill Kristol said:
“He should release the tax returns tomorrow. It’s crazy. You’ve got to release six, eight, ten years back tax returns. Take the hit for a day or two. He has to give a big speech in defense of capitalism, and that will elevate, I think, this race above this tactical back and forth, which I do think he’s on the margin of losing.”
Dave Stockman OMB director for Ronald Reagan said:
“I don’t think that Mitt Romney can legitimately say that he learned anything about how to create jobs in the LBO (leveraged buyout) business. The LBO business is about how to strip cash out of old, long-in-the-tooth companies and how to make short-term profits. All the jobs that he talks about came from Staples. That was a very early venture stage deal. That, you know they got out of long before it got to its current size.”
Newt Gingrich said:
- “Here’s a guy who owns Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae stock,” “He owns a Goldman Sachs subsidiary, which is foreclosing on Floridians. And on that front he decides to lie about my career? There’s something about the hypocrisy that should make every American angry.”
Rick Perry said:
“It is important for Mitt to release his tax returns. The fact is we can’t fire our nominee in September.”
Rick Santorum said:
“We don’t need someone who had convenient conversion experiences on a whole host of issues.”
John Huntsman said:
- ‘’he is a perfectly lubricated weathervane."
Rudy Giuliani said:
“He changed his position on virtually everything. I’m a moderate Republican, that’s what I am, so I’d be inclined to support someone like Mitt Romney. But all those changes give me pause.”
Robert Bentley said:
If you have things to hide, then maybe you’re doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people.“
Rick Santorum said:
- “Pick any other Republican in the country. He is the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama.”
Bryan Fischer American Family Association said:
“If Mitt Romney can be pushed around, intimidated, coerced, co-opted by a conservative radio talk show host in Middle America, then how is he going to stand up to the Chinese? How is he going to stand up to Putin? How is he going to stand up to North Korea if he can be pushed around by a yokel like me? I don’t think Romney is realizing the doubts that this begins to raise about his leadership.”
Rick Perry said:
“Now I have no doubt that Mitt Romney was worried about pink slips — whether he was going to have enough of them to hand out because his company Bain Capital with all the jobs that they killed, I’m sure he was worried that he’d run out of pink slips. There is something inherently wrong when getting rich off failure and sticking it to someone else is how you do your business and I happen to think that’s indefensible. If you’re a victim of Bain Capital’s downsizing, it’s the ultimate insult for Mitt Romney to come to South Carolina and tell you he feels your pain, because he caused it.”
Mike Huckabee said:
“I believe most Americans want their next President to remind them of the guy they work with, not the guy who laid them off.”
Rick Santorum said:
“He heroically bailed out the Salt Lake City Olympic games by heroically going to Congress and asking them for tens of millions of dollars to bail out the Salt Lake Olympic games, in an earmark. Does the word hypocrisy come to mind?”
Jon Huntsman said:
“The reality is Mitt Romney’s record on job creation was abysmal by every standard.”
Marco Rubio said:
“There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for President, but they didn’t.
Sheldon Aldeson said:
“He’s not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says ‘well let me think about it.”
Rep Tom Davis said:
“He may not be Mr. Personality, uh, you know, this is a guy who gives a fireside chat and the fire goes out.”
Rick Perry said:
"I happen to think that companies like Bain Capital could have come in and helped these companies if they truly were venture capitalists, but they're not — they're vulture capitalists,"
Rick Santorum said:
“If the campaign is about issues, we win. If it’s about Mitt Romney’s record as a businessman, then we don’t win. If it’s about Mitt Romney’s tax returns, then we don’t win. If it’s about whether people like Mitt Romney more than Barack Obama, then we don’t win.
Gov Susana Martinez said:
“Self-deport? What the heck does that mean? I have no doubt Hispanics have been alienated during this campaign. But now there’s an opportunity for Gov. Romney to have a sincere conversation about what we can do and why. I absolutely advocate for comprehensive immigration reform. Republicans want to be tough and say, ‘Illegals, you’re gone.’ But the answer is a lot more complex than that.”
Rand Paul said:
“I do not yet know if I will find a Romney presidency more acceptable on foreign policy. But I do know that I must oppose the most recent statements made by Mitt Romney in which he says he, as president, could take us to war unilaterally with Iran, without any approval from Congress.”
George Will said:
“Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable; he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate… Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis…”
Jeb Bush said:
“Don’t just talk about Hispanics and say immediately we must have controlled borders. It’s kind of insulting when you think about it. Change the tone would be the first thing. Second, on immigration, I think we need to have a broader approach.”
Newt Gingich said:
“Those of us who believe in free markets and those of us who believe that in fact the whole goal of investment is entrepreneurship and job creation, we find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job.”
Alan Keyes said:
He’s a crypto socialist.
CommanderJameson said:
unrepentant said:
Alan Keyes said:
He’s a crypto socialist.
davepoth said:
CommanderJameson said:
unrepentant said:
Alan Keyes said:
He’s a crypto socialist.
Louie Gomert said:
“If you’re not sure about whether to support Mitt Romney, whether you’re liberal, or whether you’re very conservative, you ought to be excited, because he’s been on your side at one time or another.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/01/mitt-romn...
He's in touch with the ordinary man is Mitt.
Doesn't say much for Jindal either.
He's in touch with the ordinary man is Mitt.
Doesn't say much for Jindal either.
unrepentant said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/01/mitt-romn...
He's in touch with the ordinary man is Mitt.
Doesn't say much for Jindal either.
211 is an information/evcacuee information system run by each local Parish (counties). That is the number to call to request monetary (FEMA IA & PA)assistance, evacuation, etc assistance that is not a medical emergency. It is also to register for a shelter so family members can track their loved ones. That information was briefed to Romney by the very local officials who set that system up for just such an event, he was repeating it at their request. Learn a bit about something before condemning it. If "obvious agenda" had a face, you'd be it. ETA: The writers for that liberal rag you linked have no interest in finding out facts, just pushing a political agenda.He's in touch with the ordinary man is Mitt.
Doesn't say much for Jindal either.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 1st September 15:54
Jimbeaux said:
211 is an information/evcacuee information system run by each local Parish (counties). That is the number to call to request monetary (FEMA IA & PA)assistance, evacuation, etc assistance that is not a medical emergency. It is also to register for a shelter so family members can track their loved ones. That information was briefed to Romney by the very local officials who set that system up for just such an event, he was repeating it at their request. Learn a bit about something before condemning it. If "obvious agenda" had a face, you'd be it.
Which is fine, but I don't think that's what the person was actually asking. What she seems to have been asking is why her town is still outside of the (very impressive) flood protection system that New Orleans now has. Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 1st September 15:51
All he really needed to do was nod, smile, shake hands, and say that the question of whether to extend the levees out beyond the city is an important one which he would give high priority once he assumed the office of President. That really isn't a tough one, and he still managed to fluff it.
davepoth said:
Jimbeaux said:
211 is an information/evcacuee information system run by each local Parish (counties). That is the number to call to request monetary (FEMA IA & PA)assistance, evacuation, etc assistance that is not a medical emergency. It is also to register for a shelter so family members can track their loved ones. That information was briefed to Romney by the very local officials who set that system up for just such an event, he was repeating it at their request. Learn a bit about something before condemning it. If "obvious agenda" had a face, you'd be it.
Which is fine, but I don't think that's what the person was actually asking. What she seems to have been asking is why her town is still outside of the (very impressive) flood protection system that New Orleans now has. Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 1st September 15:51
All he really needed to do was nod, smile, shake hands, and say that the question of whether to extend the levees out beyond the city is an important one which he would give high priority once he assumed the office of President. That really isn't a tough one, and he still managed to fluff it.
It's all a bit Hollywood isn't it, this race for the Whitehouse? It's all exaggerated hand and arm gestures, big fixed grins and shout of "Yeehaaw" to the crowds - does the average American actually believe any of that is sincere? They must do, else why would the candidates do it? I'm speaking of both parties btw.
Like I've said many times before, I know little about American politics, but it seems to me that Obama is at least embarrassed to be doing his performing seal act and because of that he tones it down a bit, resulting in him looking vastly more dignified than the other simpering, grinning, squealing idiots (again, of BOTH parties).
Like I've said many times before, I know little about American politics, but it seems to me that Obama is at least embarrassed to be doing his performing seal act and because of that he tones it down a bit, resulting in him looking vastly more dignified than the other simpering, grinning, squealing idiots (again, of BOTH parties).
Dixie68 said:
It's all a bit Hollywood isn't it, this race for the Whitehouse? It's all exaggerated hand and arm gestures, big fixed grins and shout of "Yeehaaw" to the crowds - does the average American actually believe any of that is sincere? They must do, else why would the candidates do it? I'm speaking of both parties btw.
Like I've said many times before, I know little about American politics, but it seems to me that Obama is at least embarrassed to be doing his performing seal act and because of that he tones it down a bit, resulting in him looking vastly more dignified than the other simpering, grinning, squealing idiots (again, of BOTH parties).
USA tend to be fairly open with their emotions at least in comparison with us Brits. Hence the hand on heart when the National Anthem plays, the open applause for Servicemen and women. I think that's why their political rallies tend to focussed on an appeal to their base emotions rather than venues for complicated political discourse.Like I've said many times before, I know little about American politics, but it seems to me that Obama is at least embarrassed to be doing his performing seal act and because of that he tones it down a bit, resulting in him looking vastly more dignified than the other simpering, grinning, squealing idiots (again, of BOTH parties).
Ie get people really worked up by preaching semi truths / outright dishonesties on the basis that if you throw enough dirt some of it sticks.
Countdown said:
Dixie68 said:
It's all a bit Hollywood isn't it, this race for the Whitehouse? It's all exaggerated hand and arm gestures, big fixed grins and shout of "Yeehaaw" to the crowds - does the average American actually believe any of that is sincere? They must do, else why would the candidates do it? I'm speaking of both parties btw.
Like I've said many times before, I know little about American politics, but it seems to me that Obama is at least embarrassed to be doing his performing seal act and because of that he tones it down a bit, resulting in him looking vastly more dignified than the other simpering, grinning, squealing idiots (again, of BOTH parties).
USA tend to be fairly open with their emotions at least in comparison with us Brits. Hence the hand on heart when the National Anthem plays, the open applause for Servicemen and women. I think that's why their political rallies tend to focussed on an appeal to their base emotions rather than venues for complicated political discourse.Like I've said many times before, I know little about American politics, but it seems to me that Obama is at least embarrassed to be doing his performing seal act and because of that he tones it down a bit, resulting in him looking vastly more dignified than the other simpering, grinning, squealing idiots (again, of BOTH parties).
Ie get people really worked up by preaching semi truths / outright dishonesties on the basis that if you throw enough dirt some of it sticks.
Jimbeaux said:
He spoke to the issues the officials asked his to stick too. The levee system that did not include Plaquemines Parish is a known problem by the Corps of Engineers but not well versed future-plan-wise to the local officals. Romney is not a public official yet and therefore has had no briefing on the issue specifics from the feds or authority to speak outside the authorities of those local officials hosting him. I understand you lot are trying hard to slur Romney, just try harder. BTW, Obama has not shown his face here yet and he IS the President. He will be coming Monday.
The point is that he could have been an awful lot more empathetic without even making a suggestion of doing or not doing anything. What he did do was make it look like he was only there to get there before Obama, rather than to offer any comfort to the populace.Guam said:
unrepentant said:
Seriously we get the point, you dont like the guy, as most of us on here wont be voting whats the point of all this political positioning?
As I have no vote either it's all academic, or rather, mostly rhetoric.
davepoth said:
Jimbeaux said:
He spoke to the issues the officials asked his to stick too. The levee system that did not include Plaquemines Parish is a known problem by the Corps of Engineers but not well versed future-plan-wise to the local officals. Romney is not a public official yet and therefore has had no briefing on the issue specifics from the feds or authority to speak outside the authorities of those local officials hosting him. I understand you lot are trying hard to slur Romney, just try harder. BTW, Obama has not shown his face here yet and he IS the President. He will be coming Monday.
The point is that he could have been an awful lot more empathetic without even making a suggestion of doing or not doing anything. What he did do was make it look like he was only there to get there before Obama, rather than to offer any comfort to the populace.
Guam said:
And how many of those do we really have on here?
There seems to be more people that hate the "merikins" on here than care who the current guy in charge is?
Yay! Are you going straight to 'hate "merikins"' already? The fact is, certain people have had a 'don't like Obama' theme for several years. There have also been posters who did not like Bush Jnr. Bit some folks don't like Mitt and the toys are on the verge of being thrown? Come on, you can do better than that. There seems to be more people that hate the "merikins" on here than care who the current guy in charge is?
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