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nicanary said:
I'm loving what's happened so far with the RHI enquiry, I just hope it doesn't drag on too long and run out of steam
Wasn't Michelle O'Neill head of the Dept of Agriculture whilst most of NI farmers were taking advantage of the RHI? Yet another case of whataboutery coming up unfortunatelynicanary said:
Indeed, the population of the Republic being about 4 times that of the Province. However it would be economic suicide for the South.
Possibly, but much of the push for Irish independence in the 19th century had little to do with economics. Chugging along in the background of most Irish peoples' minds has been the desire to see the country reunited some day. If the possibility suddenly became an option, I doubt few would allow economics to get in the way of such a long held aspiration.Ian Lancs said:
nicanary said:
I'm loving what's happened so far with the RHI enquiry, I just hope it doesn't drag on too long and run out of steam
Wasn't Michelle O'Neill head of the Dept of Agriculture whilst most of NI farmers were taking advantage of the RHI? Yet another case of whataboutery coming up unfortunatelyThe promotion of the RHI scheme by Michelle O'Neill was brought up very early in the mud slinging, as deflection tactic by the DUP, but she was quickly absolved of any responsibility by an email trail which she was not made aware of the cost implications untill well after it was common knowledge within the department of the environment.
Francy555 said:
Ian Lancs said:
nicanary said:
I'm loving what's happened so far with the RHI enquiry, I just hope it doesn't drag on too long and run out of steam
Wasn't Michelle O'Neill head of the Dept of Agriculture whilst most of NI farmers were taking advantage of the RHI? Yet another case of whataboutery coming up unfortunatelyThe promotion of the RHI scheme by Michelle O'Neill was brought up very early in the mud slinging, as deflection tactic by the DUP, but she was quickly absolved of any responsibility by an email trail which she was not made aware of the cost implications untill well after it was common knowledge within the department of the environment.
nicanary said:
Eric Mc said:
slow_poke said:
Francy555 said:
Eric Mc said:
Not if you are talking about the whole island.
I was talking about the whole island - a lot of the residents of the Republic view the Northerners as secular bigoted individuals - and wouldn't want anything to do with them.I'm loving what's happened so far with the RHI enquiry, I just hope it doesn't drag on too long and run out of steam, or (heaven forbid) someone having a quiet word about rocking the boat now that the PM needs those 10 votes on her side. It's about time the smug "christians" in that little DUP cabal got a kick in the places that hurt. Arlene would suit an orange jumpsuit.
What an idiot.
Sinn Fein apologises for 'indefensible' video of MP posing with loaf of bread on anniversary of Kingsmill massacre
Sinn Fein apologises for 'indefensible' video of MP posing with loaf of bread on anniversary of Kingsmill massacre
article said:
The well-known Kingsmill brand of bread shares a name with the south Armagh village that witnessed one of the most notorious incidents of the Troubles, when gunmen stopped a van carrying textile workers on their way home, identified the Protestant occupants, lined them up at the side of the road and shot them.
McElduff is an idiot but he did the right thing and resigned, how many unionist politicians have resigned over much worse?
Kingsmill was a necessary evil. Loyalists, aided and abetted by the security forces were killing Catholics at will in south Armagh at the time, it stopped after Kingsmill. It was too late for the Reavey family who were murdered in their home in Whitecross about a mile away, or the O’Dowds who were murdered a few miles away near Gilford and for all the other innocents but it undoubtedly saved the lives of countless others.
Incidentally Alan Black, one of two survivors of Kingsmill, is adamant that Nairaic was involved on that fateful night and it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility, it wouldn’t be the first sectarian killing that so called rogue SAS officer was involved in, even the RUC believe he was present at the Miami Showband killings. We will never know the truth as to what went on in the north during that awful time.
Kingsmill was a necessary evil. Loyalists, aided and abetted by the security forces were killing Catholics at will in south Armagh at the time, it stopped after Kingsmill. It was too late for the Reavey family who were murdered in their home in Whitecross about a mile away, or the O’Dowds who were murdered a few miles away near Gilford and for all the other innocents but it undoubtedly saved the lives of countless others.
Incidentally Alan Black, one of two survivors of Kingsmill, is adamant that Nairaic was involved on that fateful night and it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility, it wouldn’t be the first sectarian killing that so called rogue SAS officer was involved in, even the RUC believe he was present at the Miami Showband killings. We will never know the truth as to what went on in the north during that awful time.
nicanary said:
Eric Mc said:
Ructions said:
Kingsmill was a necessary evil. Loyalists, .
Well, I am flabbergasted.13 months on....
“There is "no current prospect" of a deal to restore power sharing in Northern Ireland, the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) leader has said.
Arlene Foster said the talks failed due to disagreements with Sinn Féin about legislation for the Irish language.”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
“There is "no current prospect" of a deal to restore power sharing in Northern Ireland, the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) leader has said.
Arlene Foster said the talks failed due to disagreements with Sinn Féin about legislation for the Irish language.”
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/...
Well, there's a slap in the face for the London and Dublin governments.
The DUP are feeling feisty. They know that this time they have the British Govt by the balls and now they're squeezing, unlike the last time when Tony Blair threatened to give Dublin more say in the running of the place if the DUP didn't go into power sharing with the Shinners.
Of course, this might backfire massively on them, with the Tories having to call a General Election if the DUP does back out of Supply & Confidence prop-up agreement, and the Shinner/IRA old pal Corbyn gets into No. 10.
The DUP are feeling feisty. They know that this time they have the British Govt by the balls and now they're squeezing, unlike the last time when Tony Blair threatened to give Dublin more say in the running of the place if the DUP didn't go into power sharing with the Shinners.
Of course, this might backfire massively on them, with the Tories having to call a General Election if the DUP does back out of Supply & Confidence prop-up agreement, and the Shinner/IRA old pal Corbyn gets into No. 10.
Ructions said:
Unionists would rather the north sank like the titanic than to give an inch to them'uns. Incredible that these people still get votes, it wouldn't happen anywhere else.
The Unionists would not support a stand alone irish language act.They would support a language act that included ulster scots.
Now yes Ulster scots is a language that everyone will turn around and scoff at...But it is just like Irish a underused almost dead language and the DUP would like it to have the very same protection as Irish would under any new act of law.
Ructions said:
Unionists would rather the north sank like the titanic than to give an inch to them'uns. Incredible that these people still get votes, it wouldn't happen anywhere else.
The Unionists would not support a stand alone irish language act.They would possiblysupport a language act that included ulster scots.
Now yes Ulster scots is a language that everyone will turn around and scoff at...But it is just like Irish a underused almost dead language and the DUP would like it to have the very same protection as Irish would under any new act of law.
The nationalists say no and it has to be a standalone Irish act that they know over 2/3 of the DUP support would vote against.
The shinners are using this act as a political hammer, If the DUP say yes to it then the DUP vote goes out the window.
The DUP put including Ulster scots forward thinking they might get it past the members of the party.
How is that not giving a inch? They suggested a way of getting Irish into law and shinners said no it has to be our way or no way.
stupidbutkeen said:
Now yes Ulster scots is a language that everyone will turn around and scoff at...But it is just like Irish a underused almost dead language and the DUP would like it to have the very same protection as Irish would under any new act of law.
Ulster Scots is not a language, I could be kind and say it's a dialect, but it is a made up language. Have a look if you don't believe me, I guarantee you will be fluent, add it to your CV. God forbid one side would get something.The truth of the matter is, Arlene Foster was all for having a stand alone Irish language act, as well as an Ulster Scats act, but she couldn't sell it to the Orange Order or the Loyalist paramilitaries. Her party depends on both of these organisations for votes and she rewards them handsomely for doing so. Nothing has changed.
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