UK General Election 2015

[Axionknight]

Greg66 said:

Not so sure about that. As I am not a big fan of me having to pay more tax (NB: apparently Balls isn't ruling out lowering the 40p threshold to suck a bunch more people into that band), I'd rather like a Con-based next govt. If Clegg loses his seat, you can bet your bottom dollar that his successor will be greatly less keen than Clegg on another deal with the Tories, whether by formal coalition or informal support. Which basically leaves the Cons plus perhaps the DUP vs the rest, with no chance of forming a Govt.

A fair point, but it's still worth a good laugh.

[rover 623gsi]

Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"

Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.

Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.

So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.

[PRTVR]

rover 623gsi said:

Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"

Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.

Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.

So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.

I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue.

[HonestIago]

PRTVR said:

I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue.

I personally would be delighted if both Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander lost their seats.

[Munter]

I think the Lib Dem problem is that nobody knows what they stand for. Nobody ever really did, but they were the protest vote. Now they are no longer a protest vote (there are other louder options), and still nobody knows what they stand for.

Even their political broadcast last night just said "we're the middle ground". Great but...so what <yawn>.

[McWigglebum4th]

HonestIago said:

I personally would be delighted if both Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander lost their seats.

both whom will be replaced by labour and SNP


Way to go

What are the SNP promising?

Oh yeah 180 billion extra spending a year

[rover 623gsi]

PRTVR said:

I disagree, look what happened in the EU elections, the lib dem vote collapsed, I see no reason the trend will not continue.

their national share of the vote will undoubtedly go down, but they will hold on to more seats than most people think - imho

[McWigglebum4th]

Guam said:

Oops looks like Millibands researchers dropped the ball on zero hours contracts!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022239/Mi...

AH BUT he is going to give them the right to ask for a full contract after 12 weeks


I think the tory party should match this and improve on it

They should give workers the right to ask for a full contract and a free ferrari after14 minutes of standing outside any company

[Zod]

rover 623gsi said:

Neither the Tories nor Labour are likely to win enough seats to form a majority government. Therefore, the question is "what coalition do you want?"

Personally, I think UKIP will win very few seats so the only for the Tories will be another term with the Lib Dems.

Labour could possibly form a govt with SNP - but even as a bit of a leftie I don't like the thought of that and I also think that lots of Labour supporters wouldn't really want that either. They would rather go into govt with the Lib Dems.

So, my view is that even though they will lose seats, the Lib Dems will still have a major part to play.

On the figures in today's FT prediction, the Conservatives would have the most seats (just), but would have fewer seats combined with the LibDems than Labour combined with the SNP. A formal coalition would trump an informal agreement between Labour and the SNP, but the unholy alliance would no doubt act as wreckers for five years, making it impossible for the coalition to govern.

What a mess!

[Asterix]

Shame Her Maj can't tell them to all do one and take over - Phil for Foreign Secretary?

[rover 623gsi]

problem with that idea (another election) is that may well produce the same result

[Zod]

Guam said:

Zod said:

On the figures in today's FT prediction, the Conservatives would have the most seats (just), but would have fewer seats combined with the LibDems than Labour combined with the SNP. A formal coalition would trump an informal agreement between Labour and the SNP, but the unholy alliance would no doubt act as wreckers for five years, making it impossible for the coalition to govern.

What a mess!

In that case Dave should do what some of us suggested he do in this Parliament with the Lib Dems
Go back to the people after the wreckers have begun

I am going to forecast a second election by Late 2016 if these predictions from the polls materialise into reality at the ballot box!

Slight problem with that: he needs Parliament to vote for a dissolution, because of the ridiculous Fixed Term Parliaments Act that he and Clegg hastily and foolishly agreed upon in 2010. The wreckers can just vote against.

[Scuffers]

Guam said:

rover 623gsi said:

problem with that idea (another election) is that may well produce the same result

Perhaps but it would likely make people realise that the nation is paralysed and force them to make some difficult choices for a clear term for either party.

What do you mean either party?

Back to 2 party systems with lab con stichup?

[Munter]

Guam said:

rover 623gsi said:

problem with that idea (another election) is that may well produce the same result

Perhaps but it would likely make people realise that the nation is paralysed and force them to make some difficult choices for a clear term for either party.

I think you are giving "people" too much credit there. All they would do is blame the MPs/Gov and decide that voting isn't worth it because "they" always screw it up.

[Scuffers]

Munter said:

I think you are giving "people" too much credit there. All they would do is blame the MPs/Gov and decide that voting isn't worth it because "they" always screw it up.

And to a point, your right.

Look at the choices we are given between lab and con?

[handpaper]

Zod said:

Slight problem with that: he needs Parliament to vote for a dissolution, because of the ridiculous Fixed Term Parliaments Act that he and Clegg hastily and foolishly agreed upon in 2010. The wreckers can just vote against.

Not quite, a no-confidence vote can still trigger an early election, if it is not reversed within 14 days.

[rover 623gsi]

Guam said:

Perhaps but it would likely make people realise that the nation is paralysed and force them to make some difficult choices for a clear term for either party.

why should people change their vote just because it didn't produce the result that you want?

[TEKNOPUG]

The answer is to re-address that constituency boundaries - something that the Tories wanted to do but strangely, the LibDems opposed.....anyone would think that they want a hung parliament every election....

[Zod]

Guam said:

Zod said:

Slight problem with that: he needs Parliament to vote for a dissolution, because of the ridiculous Fixed Term Parliaments Act that he and Clegg hastily and foolishly agreed upon in 2010. The wreckers can just vote against.

Well that just shows how much of an Idiot he is then doesn't it!

Five years of paralysis because of an elitist ideal by the Boys and girls in the bubble

Wonderful!

And yet you still defend them!

Do I defend everything they do? Of course not.

[rover 623gsi]

you want one party to have an overall majority