UK General Election 2015

[FiF]

wc98 said:

voyds9 said:

The job of the government is to enact the will of the people, not to tell us they know better.

exactly, why do blair and miliband think they have the right to pick and choose when democracy is enacted ?

Yet this is the same Blair who said in 1999 "once in every generation the case for the EU needs to be stated..."

Of course in those days he was all for joining the single currency.

[MC Bodge]

FiF said:

Yet this is the same Blair who said in 1999 "once in every generation the case for the EU needs to be stated..."

Of course in those days he was all for joining the single currency.

Which I never was. I remember thinking,
"Germany? And Greece? Together in currency harmony? Eek!"

[MGJohn]

MC Bodge said:

Winston Churchill said:

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Yes, and like a certain politico in the current line up, when Churchill looked into the future and did not like what he saw, many formed queues to ridicule his visions as preposterous. Boy oh boy how right they were...or what... Not everyone joined that queue ....

[BlackLabel]

The most recent yougov and populas polls both give Labour a 2 point advantage over the Tories.

http://may2015.com/category/poll-of-polls/

[MC Bodge]

Winson Churchill also said:

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

[Asterix]

BlackLabel said:

The most recent yougov and populas polls both give Labour a 2 point advantage over the Tories.

http://may2015.com/category/poll-of-polls/

We, the Wife & I, are watching this with great interest from afar. The fact that Labour has more than just nominal support boggles both our minds.

The option of stopping working is drawing closer and we had thought that it might be nice to do a number of years in the UK for a bit as it would allow my Wife to gain her British Passport (we've been married for years so it's not what you may be thinking) as it would be more convenient for other future travel plans. If Labour get in, then we'll basically scratch that idea.

The UK is a laughing stock abroad for it's immigration and welfare state. My Indian wife just shakes her head and wonders what happened to the country that once had the largest empire the world has ever seen and when did it's testicles dry up to the size of small raisins. Where is the strength of the British people? Why do they allow themselves to constantly have the piss thoroughly taken out of them by their own so called leaders and the PC brigade?

I think she has a point.

[Axionknight]

GoneAnon said:

Never mind elections being a good idea or a bad idea.

After reading some of the bullst and bile on here I've concluded that some parent's ERECTIONS were an enormously bad idea.

No need to put yourself and your parents down like that.

We'll do it for you.

[Strocky]

OpulentBob said:

Strocky said:

OpulentBob said:

For fks sake, the Scottish Indy thread is thataway --->

Would all the yes-voting nesbitts please keep their victimisation bile off of this thread? This one is about the UK-Wide GE, not the fking pretend powergames advocated by Sturgeon and her poor victimised idiot followers that make up about half a percent of anything meaningful, and the proposals that the majority of decent Scots voted against.

You sound rattled OB, take a breath

See Guam's post, two below yours.

We can't have the tail wagging the dog.

Although you seem to be happy that the SE of England determine the government we end up with

However I agree with your sentiment, if Scotland votes for no Tories, allied to a near Labour wipeout then Westminster has no mandate in Scotland and the head should be lopped off post haste

Edited by Strocky on Wednesday 8th April 10:17

[Zod]

Strocky said:

Although you seem to be happy that the SE of England determine the government we end up with

However I agree with your sentiment, if Scotland votes for no Tories, allied to a near Labour wipeout then Westminster has no mandate in Scotland and the head should be lopped off post haste

Edited by Strocky on Wednesday 8th April 10:17

You continue for your convenience to ignore the fact that 55% of Scots voted against independence. That is a fact. If the 45% through the first past the post system elect a majority of Scottish MPs, that does not give those MPs any mandate to reverse the independence referendum,. It merely gives them a mandate to represent their constituencies in the UK Parliament.

[Rick_1138]

Strocky said:

OpulentBob said:

Strocky said:

OpulentBob said:

For fks sake, the Scottish Indy thread is thataway --->

Would all the yes-voting nesbitts please keep their victimisation bile off of this thread? This one is about the UK-Wide GE, not the fking pretend powergames advocated by Sturgeon and her poor victimised idiot followers that make up about half a percent of anything meaningful, and the proposals that the majority of decent Scots voted against.

You sound rattled OB, take a breath

See Guam's post, two below yours.

We can't have the tail wagging the dog.

Although you seem to be happy that the SE of England determine the government we end up with

However I agree with your sentiment, if Scotland votes for no Tories, allied to a near Labour wipeout then Westminster has no mandate in Scotland and the head should be lopped off post haste

Edited by Strocky on Wednesday 8th April 10:17

Eh, hold fire, Westminster DOES have a mandate in Scotland as it runs its Defence, Main economy (BoE still regulates the currency last time I checked) any major issues that involve the nation has to be run past Westminster. Yes some fiscal issues, Local NHS and the like is run by Holyrood, but at the end of the day Holyrood is largely a franchise branch office of Westminster.

Holyrood has no power to separate itself from Westminster without Westminster's say so.

[Axionknight]

Zod said:

You continue for your convenience to ignore the fact that 55% of Scots voted against independence. That is a fact. If the 45% through the first past the post system elect a majority of Scottish MPs, that does not give those MPs any mandate to reverse the independence referendum,. It merely gives them a mandate to represent their constituencies in the UK Parliament.

You take your sensible and democratic views out of here and wash your dirty mouth out with soap Zod - the nationalists aren't interested in such tripe.

[London424]

This is mighty impressive. If you didn't think Labour could shoot themselves in the foot any more than normal, I give you the following.

http://order-order.com/2015/04/08/bbc-on-labour-no...

[jmorgan]

They are just trying to pander to what they see as vote wining. Now, they all do that but this bunch seem to be chucking promises around like it is confetti.

[motco]

jmorgan said:

They are just trying to pander to what they see as vote wining. Now, they all do that but this bunch seem to be chucking promises around like it is confetti.

That was lauded by Blair - "tell me what you want me to say and I'll say it". Market research led political stance. Never mind principles...

[johnxjsc1985]

The Polls are not moving which is worrying. LAB/SNP Gov and chaos and a shout for English independence.
Last one out turn the lights out.

[TLandCruiser]

I'm undecided between the conservatives or ukip.

[LucreLout]

Strocky said:

Although you seem to be happy that the SE of England determine the government we end up with

However I agree with your sentiment, if Scotland votes for no Tories, allied to a near Labour wipeout then Westminster has no mandate in Scotland and the head should be lopped off post haste

Edited by Strocky on Wednesday 8th April 10:17

Your problem os caused because you persist with the view that Scotland is a country. It isn't, democratically at least. Add the Scots to the Welsh, bung in the Northern Irish and you still have fewer people than London and the home counties. Quite why you feel entitled to dictate to GB as a whole, is a mystery to the rest of us. Now pipe down and accept that one man one vote means you're largely irrelevant.

[FiF]

]The view of South Thanet, like the general election, too close to call

[matchmaker]

LucreLout said:

Strocky said:

Although you seem to be happy that the SE of England determine the government we end up with

However I agree with your sentiment, if Scotland votes for no Tories, allied to a near Labour wipeout then Westminster has no mandate in Scotland and the head should be lopped off post haste

Edited by Strocky on Wednesday 8th April 10:17

Your problem os caused because you persist with the view that Scotland is a country. It isn't, democratically at least. Add the Scots to the Welsh, bung in the Northern Irish and you still have fewer people than London and the home counties. Quite why you feel entitled to dictate to GB as a whole, is a mystery to the rest of us. Now pipe down and accept that one man one vote means you're largely irrelevant.

Not countries?

[LucreLout]

matchmaker said:

Not countries?

In a general election, no.

It's more helpful to think of Scotland and Wales as counties for general election purposes, not countries.