Cromer in lockdown
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Tom Logan said:
TTwiggy said:
People born at the tail end of the 19th century probably thought the same about 1940s Londoners. It's a tougher (and nicer) city than it's given credit for and I never understand the animosity towards it from people who have often rarely visited more than once.
There are many people for whom one visit to London is more than enough.TTwiggy said:
dandarez said:
Agree, but London THEN, is not London NOW!
People born at the tail end of the 19th century probably thought the same about 1940s Londoners. It's a tougher (and nicer) city than it's given credit for and I never understand the animosity towards it from people who have often rarely visited more than once.Did so still into the 70s. Friendliness was paramount. Prices were reasonable. Everything, I mean everything was happening there and then.
I still go. But only ever if there is a good reason. When I do I always return with the sound of cop car sirens in my head. They do sound every minute don't they?
Last went Sunday 9 July Hyde Park to see TP&TH. Was good day (except for Speakers Corner - wtf has happened there. Nutjobs corner? and earlier walk for a few miles around and a meal. Everything comes across as utterly manic). Loads of friendly people at the concert but mostly they were not Londoners, I know because we asked them. Majority had come from elsewhere, specifically.
Tube rides still feels like it was back in the 70s. Return home with black nostrils LOL!
Previously? New Years Eve celebrations.
I've never encountered so much s
te and rubbish underfoot as when we left in my life, and as for the pee running in the gutters (dirty filthy bds!).Yeah, it's ok. But I need an incentive to have to go. When will the next be?
NOT 27/28th of this month, that's for sure. Made that mistake once. Never again.
Rovinghawk said:
dandarez said:
TTwiggy said:
But yeah, soft as ste the Londoners.
London THEN, is not London NOW! te the Londoners.ks. Nutter drives a car into a crowd of people on Westminster Bridge and stabs a policeman to death. The next morning everyone is walking to work like nothing happened.turbobloke said:
gert biggens said:
From the Eastern Daily Press: ‘Police chiefs deny Cromer was on weekend ‘lockdown’ and pledge to investigate any crimes’
So that’s all right then. I mean, it’s going to be so easy to investigate crimes when the notoriously slippery perps have moved on to another part of the country, isn’t it?
‘DCC Nick Dean said the weekend was an “isolated incident”.’
Except that there’s soon likely to be another ‘isolated incident’ in another lucky county, then another, then another…
“People’s perception of disorder is one for themselves,” he said. “To put the blame on the travelling community as a whole is totally disproportionate.
He’s absolutely right you know. TOTALLY disproportionate. To start with, where do the residents of Cromer get off, trying to earn an honest living? They were asking for trouble from the off.
“We have engaged with a number of businesses to get a holistic picture of what happened over the weekend.”
Words fail me. A holistic picture? My sympathies go out to Cromer for having what must be the world’s wettest police force. I hope they feel reassured by this Churchill-like rhetoric, ‘cos I certainly don’t.
With a bullsSo that’s all right then. I mean, it’s going to be so easy to investigate crimes when the notoriously slippery perps have moved on to another part of the country, isn’t it?
‘DCC Nick Dean said the weekend was an “isolated incident”.’
Except that there’s soon likely to be another ‘isolated incident’ in another lucky county, then another, then another…
“People’s perception of disorder is one for themselves,” he said. “To put the blame on the travelling community as a whole is totally disproportionate.
He’s absolutely right you know. TOTALLY disproportionate. To start with, where do the residents of Cromer get off, trying to earn an honest living? They were asking for trouble from the off.
“We have engaged with a number of businesses to get a holistic picture of what happened over the weekend.”
Words fail me. A holistic picture? My sympathies go out to Cromer for having what must be the world’s wettest police force. I hope they feel reassured by this Churchill-like rhetoric, ‘cos I certainly don’t.
t bingo score of that magnitude the DCC will go far in today's police t. Should have been a social worker. markcoznottz said:
Common purpose sociology degree pen pushing tt. Should have been a social worker.
My parents live just up the coast from Cromer. I suspect they will be writing to the Chief Constable to express their disappointment, as lifelong tax/rate payers, at the limp attitude being shown by the Police towards law abiding citizens in the area. The Police ought to be a little more upstanding, and the travellers more circumspect in their behaviour: if the locals decide to take matters into their own hands, many of the locals in that part of the world are either farmworkers or lobster/crab fishermen, and neither are groups I'd want to be on the wrong side of. t. Should have been a social worker. TTwiggy said:
Tom Logan said:
TTwiggy said:
People born at the tail end of the 19th century probably thought the same about 1940s Londoners. It's a tougher (and nicer) city than it's given credit for and I never understand the animosity towards it from people who have often rarely visited more than once.
There are many people for whom one visit to London is more than enough.Stabbings as above.
Shootings/vehicle attacks etc etc.
I have no desire to visit a third world s
tehole, you're welcome to it.TTwiggy said:
bks. Nutter drives a car into a crowd of people on Westminster Bridge and stabs a policeman to death. The next morning everyone is walking to work like nothing happened.
As indeed they should. ks. Nutter drives a car into a crowd of people on Westminster Bridge and stabs a policeman to death. The next morning everyone is walking to work like nothing happened.Not surprisingly, terrorists thrive on achieving terror - it's for us to show that we will not be terrorised by them.
Rovinghawk said:
Bring the army to support the police if necessary, shoot anyone brandishing a weapon, explain that their behaviour will be dealt with robustly.
Good, someone should keep an eye on people brandishing weapons. This medic was attacking unarmed protesters when this picture was taken. Perhaps the Army would have kept him and his mates honest?
TheTrash said:
Both I'd say, they like to fight and don't give a fk. I was listening to BBC radios 5 live and they had one of Norfolk constabularys big cheeses on and he was very reluctant to mention the word traveller and the host to her credit picked up on this and pressed him on it.
The police are scared on two counts. Getting filled in and getting the sack for appearing racist.
A farmer mate had his digger stolen - 3 tonne machine, about 40 grands worth. He had a remote activating tracker, and traced it to the middle of a large encapment of caravan dewlling gentlefolk. Great, he thought, I'll call plod and I can have it back. Plod duly showed up and did nothing, wouldn't go in the camp, wouldn't call for backup. k. I was listening to BBC radios 5 live and they had one of Norfolk constabularys big cheeses on and he was very reluctant to mention the word traveller and the host to her credit picked up on this and pressed him on it. The police are scared on two counts. Getting filled in and getting the sack for appearing racist.
The caravan dwellers realised the digger was transmitting, found it and killed it. For the next several days, the police negotiated with "community leaders". By the time they were allowed in, the digger had been reduced to a chassis, and no one had seen anything. All the bits had been shipped out in transit vans.
No one proscecuted, claim on insurance. There are some truly lawless places in the U.K.
Exactly the sort of thing that winds me up. Police do nothing when hard working business owners have their livelihoods attacked. But I bet if one of those same business owners got caught creeping over the limit by a camera van parked round a bend just before an nsl sign they'd be punished to the full extent of the law. Seems nowadays the government only goes after the soft easy targets of hard working people who make minor transgressions whilst hardened criminals and people who cause genuine problems for society are given a slap on the wrist or a suspended sentence and that's if they even bother to intervene which they haven't done here. I have no issue with the police and have friends who are police officers and do their best. It's the people like the senior officer previously quoted in the article that are the problem and my friends in the police would agree.
JD66 said:
Exactly the sort of thing that winds me up. Police do nothing when hard working business owners have their livelihoods attacked. But I bet if one of those same business owners got caught creeping over the limit by a camera van parked round a bend just before an nsl sign they'd be punished to the full extent of the law. Seems nowadays the government only goes after the soft easy targets of hard working people who make minor transgressions whilst hardened criminals and people who cause genuine problems for society are given a slap on the wrist or a suspended sentence and that's if they even bother to intervene which they haven't done here. I have no issue with the police and have friends who are police officers and do their best. It's the people like the senior officer previously quoted in the article that are the problem and my friends in the police would agree.
Not even that - but if said upstanding citizen decided to fight fire with fire, they would be reamed into next Tuesday. Same views on the police - I don't think this is their problem. I love on a farming/fishing peninsula with a single 8 mile road in/out.
The other seaside villages along the coast appear to suffer these groups fairly regularly, yet in fifteen years I've never heard of them coming onto the peninsula.
Asked one of the fisherman down the local why that was, was told that a message was given several years ago that seems to have been remembered...
I do know the only thing that made some of the farmers whose land 'bridges' the peninsula communicate with each other like humans was the 'early warning network' whenever these groups were spotted. They'd block every access to fields within minutes with massive rocks, and the packhouse staff (and farm labourers) were all put on standby.
Unfortunately, sounds like if they were to come by now, my local would likely be much quieter, and we'd have the same regularity of issues that our neighbours do.
And Corbyn wanted to give them even greater protections. From what? Ze Germans?
TTwiggy said:
dandarez said:
Agree, but London THEN, is not London NOW!
People born at the tail end of the 19th century probably thought the same about 1940s Londoners. It's a tougher (and nicer) city than it's given credit for and I never understand the animosity towards it from people who have often rarely visited more than once.There are many who have visited many times, lived there, worked there, who would be quite happy never to have to go there again. Trust me.
I doubt there are many real 'Londoners' left, in any case. Some interesting stats about the place:
The population in recent years has grown at twice the rate of the rest of the UK.
During the same period, more people left London for other parts of the UK than moved to London from other parts of the UK.
Think about it.
Reminds me of the "good ol' days" of the Mods and Rockers battles in Cromer in the 1960s and '70s.
Seem to remember running for my life across a car part near the front (promenade), Parka flying followed by many gentlemen dressed in leather adorned with chains and studs. Amazing how fast you can run when you are very, very scared...
Hey ho, survived to tell the tale
AND then I got a car, my first. A Ford 105E Anglia with large bore exhaust pipe and Le Mans stripe. Was I the man - Tehe.
Seem to remember running for my life across a car part near the front (promenade), Parka flying followed by many gentlemen dressed in leather adorned with chains and studs. Amazing how fast you can run when you are very, very scared...
Hey ho, survived to tell the tale
AND then I got a car, my first. A Ford 105E Anglia with large bore exhaust pipe and Le Mans stripe. Was I the man - Tehe.
REALIST123 said:
There are many who have visited many times, lived there, worked there, who would be quite happy never to have to go there again. Trust me.
I doubt there are many real 'Londoners' left, in any case. Some interesting stats about the place:
The population in recent years has grown at twice the rate of the rest of the UK.
During the same period, more people left London for other parts of the UK than moved to London from other parts of the UK.
Think about it.
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