Catholic church oppose gay marriage

[Lost_BMW]

Nigel Worc's said:

Homosexuality is like any other mental illness

Re-posted for posterity.

Nigel Worc's, PH's very own Renaissance Man.

[Tallbut Buxomly]

Lost_BMW said:

Re-posted for posterity.

Nigel Worc's, PH's very own Renaissance Man.

Truth be told i am not sure it is a mental disorder but by the same token i am not 100 sure its a natural thing either. I can understand how a man can love another man and a woman can love another woman easily enough.

[Funk]

I'm not sure where 'The Church' decided it owned the institution of marriage? Other religions have marriages too, so quite why The Church feel they have a right to exclude gay people from marrying is beyond me. It's also possible to get married without going anywhere near a church, so why don't they just STFU and sit down.

[Tallbut Buxomly]

Funk said:

I'm not sure where 'The Church' decided it owned the institution of marriage? Other religions have marriages too, so quite why The Church feel they have a right to exclude gay people from marrying is beyond me. It's also possible to get married without going anywhere near a church, so why don't they just STFU and sit down.

The church does not accept same sex relationships. Marriage is a commitment to a life partner. Simple as that.

[Funk]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

The church does not accept same sex relationships. Marriage is a commitment to a life partner. Simple as that.

The Church believes a magic sky-being made the world, so immediately I have no time for what they think. Whether they accept same-sex marriage or not is down to them, but they should not be able to prevent two people who love each other getting married should they so choose to, just because they don't accept it.

[Tallbut Buxomly]

Funk said:

The Church believes a magic sky-being made the world, so immediately I have no time for what they think. Whether they accept same-sex marriage or not is down to them, but they should not be able to prevent two people who love each other getting married should they so choose to, just because they don't accept it.

They should when they are being forced to allow it to happen in their religious buildings that is the crux of the matter for the church. They should not be forced to allow or have to officiate same sex weddings in churches.

Since when did gay right supersede religious rights?

[Funk]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

Since when did gay right supersede religious rights?

Since when did religious rights supersede gay rights?

[NoNeed]

Hardly news is it, considering how long the catholic church has been against gay marriage.

[deeps]

Lost_BMW said:

Nigel Worc's said:

Homosexuality is like any other mental illness

Re-posted for posterity.

Nigel Worc's, PH's very own Renaissance Man.

Hehe, I had to laugh at that. Very few babies are born mentally ill, including homosexual ones.

[fluffnik]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

They should when they are being forced to allow it to happen in their religious buildings that is the crux of the matter for the church. They should not be forced to allow or have to officiate same sex weddings in churches.

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages just like they're not forced to marry divorcees or Satanists despite civil marriage being available to them.

[Colonial]

Nigel Worc's said:

1967 to 2012 = 25 years ?

Anyway, I oppose gay marrage, because I do, nothing to do with any church.

Homosexuality is like any other mental illness, difficult to treat, and even more difficult to understand if you don't suffer from it.

So fook off with your self righteous crap ....... ok ?

Bigotry and being a tt to people for no good fking reason apart from who they are attracted to is something I consider a mental illness. When are you going for your blue badge?

I don't care how many consenting adults want to marry how many other consenting adults of the same or different sex. Or transgender. Or asexual. Or older.

It's not my business, nor is it my business where they want to stick or not stick their various appendages, as long as it is in a consensual situation with those above the age of consent.

It's simple.

So fk off with your self righteous crap. You're a throwback to a past time that is best left in the past.

[NoNeed]

Colonial said:

Nigel Worc's said:

1967 to 2012 = 25 years ?

Anyway, I oppose gay marrage, because I do, nothing to do with any church.

Homosexuality is like any other mental illness, difficult to treat, and even more difficult to understand if you don't suffer from it.

So fook off with your self righteous crap ....... ok ?

Bigotry and being a tt to people for no good fking reason apart from who they are attracted to is something I consider a mental illness. When are you going for your blue badge?

I don't care how many consenting adults want to marry how many other consenting adults of the same or different sex. Or transgender. Or asexual. Or older.

It's not my business, nor is it my business where they want to stick or not stick their various appendages, as long as it is in a consensual situation with those above the age of consent.

It's simple.

So fk off with your self righteous crap. You're a throwback to a past time that is best left in the past.

Dont you think that trying to change an organisation that has been the way it is for many many centuries isn't bigoted? Wether it be gays trying to change the church or the church trying to change gays both instances are wrong.

[mattnunn]

Nigel Worc's said:

1967 to 2012 = 25 years ?

Anyway, I oppose gay marrage, because I do, nothing to do with any church.

Homosexuality is like any other mental illness, difficult to treat, and even more difficult to understand if you don't suffer from it.

So fook off with your self righteous crap ....... ok ?

well you're wrong and obviously a , but at least your not clever enough to be dishonest.

[Nigel Worc's]

mattnunn said:

well you're wrong and obviously a , but at least your not clever enough to be dishonest.

Ah a bite !

Go on then, oh puff apologist, explain why I'm wrong, and why I can't have an opinion, and why homosexual people have the "god given" right to force their views and opinions onto everyone else ?

If the candles want to exclude homosexual marrage from their club, then so be it.

Homosexuals are generally no better than churches, they assume their perversion is correct, they have to keep banging on about it, in fact homosexuals are probably worse, with all their "gay rights" crap.

They are not normal, (religeous fanatics or bottie burglars), normal people like me should be protected from both groups.

So stfu !

[Derek Smith]

fluffnik said:

Tallbut Buxomly said:

They should when they are being forced to allow it to happen in their religious buildings that is the crux of the matter for the church. They should not be forced to allow or have to officiate same sex weddings in churches.

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages just like they're not forced to marry divorcees or Satanists despite civil marriage being available to them.

It is remarkable, isn't it, that despite it being quite clear that the church, any church, is not going to be forced to comply with the norms of society and treat people regardless of their sexuality, posters still keep suggesting that these institutions from the Dark Ages (which they created in many ways) are going to be forced to allow gays to marry in their churches.

I know I'm wasting my time here but I would like to quote fluff's comment again:

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages.

What's so difficult to understand?

[Nigel Worc's]

Derek Smith said:

It is remarkable, isn't it, that despite it being quite clear that the church, any church, is not going to be forced to comply with the norms of society and treat people regardless of their sexuality, posters still keep suggesting that these institutions from the Dark Ages (which they created in many ways) are going to be forced to allow gays to marry in their churches.

I know I'm wasting my time here but I would like to quote fluff's comment again:

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages.

What's so difficult to understand?

Derek, you're spoiling the fun here.

I love to see the apologists get their knickers in a twist (any wierdo subject really), they just hate it that not everyone agrees with them, and must go on and on and on and on and on about how they are correct, and everyone else is wrong etc.

A bit like the global warming lobby.

[blindswelledrat]

Tallbut Buxomly said:

Guam said:

^^^^^^

This I dont understan what any ones problem is, their belief structure in their churches, their rules surely?
Isnt that why Registry offices exist?

So you can dispense with the Religous stuff and just get the job done?
Go to a registry office end of problem!

This exactly. Its a scandal to force them to go against what they believe in the name of being politically correct.

Edited by Tallbut Buxomly on Tuesday 6th March 00:36

Correct me if I am wrong, but Im pretty sure the Catholic church are not being forced to perform these marriages.

[blindswelledrat]

MOTORVATOR said:

blindswelledrat said:

MOTORVATOR said:

"I dont think it is right that gay couples should be entitled to get married because the terminology is not appropriate to the act in the same way that the term procreation requires the presence of a male and a female, and because if that term was also altered it would have a negative impact on our species methods of reproduction"

Edited by MOTORVATOR on Monday 5th March 22:09

Are you just joking now?
Terminology? Your aversion to gay marriage is due to being a stickler for dictionary definitions? Honestly?
And do you really believe that if gay people got married then heterosexual people would stop having children?
Jesus. Im genuinely amazed that you can string a sentence together

Come on BSR you of all people know that once reduced to insults...

I suppose you are right. It gives you an excuse to ignore the awkward parts of my post. I retract the stringing a sentence comment.
To clarify:
YOur entire aversion is due to
1)Being offended about the possible twisting of a dictionary definition of the term and
2)YOu believe that gay people being married will stop heterosexual people having children?

[blindswelledrat]

Nigel Worc's said:

, oh puff apologist,They are not normal,
(religeous fanatics or bottie burglars), normal people like me should be protected from both groups.

So stfu !

AM I right in assuming you live in a house that the state provides?
Am suprised that such a forceful man as yourself is frightened of gay/religious people and believe you need extra help being protected
My experience of both groups tends to be of a peaceful and rather UN-terrifying set of of people.
In an analogy that you probably relate to: GIven the choice of a fight against a gay person, a relgious person or a rnadom opponent from your estate I would take either of the former any day of the week. Much gentler and fight less dirty. Not scary at all

[Hugo a Gogo]

Derek Smith said:

fluffnik said:

Tallbut Buxomly said:

They should when they are being forced to allow it to happen in their religious buildings that is the crux of the matter for the church. They should not be forced to allow or have to officiate same sex weddings in churches.

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages just like they're not forced to marry divorcees or Satanists despite civil marriage being available to them.

It is remarkable, isn't it, that despite it being quite clear that the church, any church, is not going to be forced to comply with the norms of society and treat people regardless of their sexuality, posters still keep suggesting that these institutions from the Dark Ages (which they created in many ways) are going to be forced to allow gays to marry in their churches.

I know I'm wasting my time here but I would like to quote fluff's comment again:

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages

They're not being forced to perform gay marriages.

What's so difficult to understand?

yes, the truth is worse, they want to enforce their interpretation of their invisible friend's rules on the rest of society