Climate protesters block roads
Discussion
A Winner Is You said:
Grahamdub said:
Yertis said:
Grahamdub said:
They have arrested someone for trying to drive through a protest though. It's good that they have their priorities right 
On what basis? It’ll be interesting to know whether they get charged. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ma...
Glasgowrob said:
All for people having the right to protest but when it starts to have an affect on people's livelihoods the police should remove them as quickly and efficiently as possible
If that means sending in a riot squad with batons then so be it you've made your point now stop screwing people's life's up
It works though. There'd hardly be a thread about a group of people stood on the pavement waving the cars past. This gets them national attention and, despite all the hypocrisy in the higher echelons of the organization*, there will be a large part of their number who sincerely want to improve things for everyone. People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.If that means sending in a riot squad with batons then so be it you've made your point now stop screwing people's life's up
- Why is it the heads of these things, and charities for that matter, always seem to have an ulterior motive or dubious attachment to their own message while the ones actually putting the graft in are the ones with any form of sincerity?
The Surveyor said:
That's fine, just leave him there. Occasional passing council operative needs to peacefully throw a bucket of water over him to quell the stench, and when the last of his comrades need to 'nip away as I'm expecting a Waitrose delivery' and he's left in peace at the side of the road glued to his bath, life goes on peacefully.
I don't get why the police need a specialist 'locked-on' team to deal with these muppets.
From FB I don't get why the police need a specialist 'locked-on' team to deal with these muppets.
Nexus Icon said:
It works though. There'd hardly be a thread about a group of people stood on the pavement waving the cars past. This gets them national attention and, despite all the hypocrisy in the higher echelons of the organization*, there will be a large part of their number who sincerely want to improve things for everyone. People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.
I didn't see anything in the national press earlier about the Bristol protests. Although If they keep the M32 closed, the queue might reach down the M4 to London eventually - Why is it the heads of these things, and charities for that matter, always seem to have an ulterior motive or dubious attachment to their own message while the ones actually putting the graft in are the ones with any form of sincerity?
Nexus Icon said:
People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.
We've had the fuel price escalator, punitive road tax air passenger duty, all intended to reduce CO2. Plus massive subsidies for wind power, reductions in coal fired power stations. UK carbon emissions per head are the lowest for over 100 years. What more do you want?Dr Jekyll said:
We've had the fuel price escalator, punitive road tax air passenger duty, all intended to reduce CO2. Plus massive subsidies for wind power, reductions in coal fired power stations. UK carbon emissions per head are the lowest for over 100 years. What more do you want?
Maybe we really do need to be powered by fairy dust Nexus Icon said:
It works though. There'd hardly be a thread about a group of people stood on the pavement waving the cars past. This gets them national attention and, despite all the hypocrisy in the higher echelons of the organization*, there will be a large part of their number who sincerely want to improve things for everyone. People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.
It's very hard to sympathise with people when they are ignorant to the needs of hundreds of thousands, ironically, causing significantly more pollution than there otherwise would have been!The fact they are all able to take such a lot of time off work as well, and ignore their home lives, speaks volumes.
I genuinely wonder how many of these protestors take yearly holidays, eat meat, use central heating powered by normal gas/coal etc, have a car and drive it in an uneconomical way, etc.
I find it very hypocritical of most people.
The protestors want the 2050 ICE ban to be brought forward to what, 2023?
This is impossible. The 2050 is at least realistic to allow things to be made, rules , infrastructure, etc.
The other issue is how many of these people actually understand what they are protesting, most are simply doing it because their friend is, or they believe what someone says.
Climate change is real, yes, but I believe partly down to nature and partly down to humans.
Protests are fine, but not blocking major cities - that is selfish.
What really keeps my p1$$ nicely on the boil is the fact that the Police keep trotting out that it's their responsibility to ensure the safety of these brainwashed morons whilst they engage in their ooman right to protest.
I'm not against their "right to protest" under the ooman rights act. I am against the fact that the Police seem to be capable of deciding which part of the law they want to uphold. Just as they'd be right to prosecute anyone stupid enough to drive at the protesters, I'd expect them also to be intent on prosecuting those causing an obstruction on the public highway by gluing themselves to large household objects, leaving a boat on a trailer, having a die-in etc.
The state this country is in is nicely illustrated by the palaver that happens when they "unlock" someone. FFS, they had more PPE and climbing gear than would be needed to scale the Eiger when they removed those chumps from the DLR during the last school/university holidays (sorry climate change protest). The Police seem more interested in ooman rights than upholding the law. Possibly as a result of the over-politicising of the Police Authorities and those intent on achieving high office in said forces.
What we need are thief-takers not wannbe human rights lawyers.
Your right to protest doesn't give you the right to break the law, despite what they might think.
I'm not against their "right to protest" under the ooman rights act. I am against the fact that the Police seem to be capable of deciding which part of the law they want to uphold. Just as they'd be right to prosecute anyone stupid enough to drive at the protesters, I'd expect them also to be intent on prosecuting those causing an obstruction on the public highway by gluing themselves to large household objects, leaving a boat on a trailer, having a die-in etc.
The state this country is in is nicely illustrated by the palaver that happens when they "unlock" someone. FFS, they had more PPE and climbing gear than would be needed to scale the Eiger when they removed those chumps from the DLR during the last school/university holidays (sorry climate change protest). The Police seem more interested in ooman rights than upholding the law. Possibly as a result of the over-politicising of the Police Authorities and those intent on achieving high office in said forces.
What we need are thief-takers not wannbe human rights lawyers.
Your right to protest doesn't give you the right to break the law, despite what they might think.
Dr Jekyll said:
Nexus Icon said:
People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.
We've had the fuel price escalator, punitive road tax air passenger duty, all intended to reduce CO2. Plus massive subsidies for wind power, reductions in coal fired power stations. UK carbon emissions per head are the lowest for over 100 years. What more do you want?I'd like world peace and carbon neutral industry. Who wouldn't? I'm also realistic enough to know we're unlikely to achieve that as a country, never mind a planet so 'what I want' is continued and accelerated progression towards it, regardless of how difficult it might be. Pointless "virtue signaling" targets, such as the "All EVs by 2025" and "zero emissions countrywide by 2050" don't cut it for me. I want real progression in alternative fuel research, reduced deforestation worldwide, less non-biodegradable packaging, and no single-use plastic waste floating around in the Pacific Ocean. None of these things are beyond our means so why the resistance to it?
xjay1337 said:
Nexus Icon said:
It works though. There'd hardly be a thread about a group of people stood on the pavement waving the cars past. This gets them national attention and, despite all the hypocrisy in the higher echelons of the organization*, there will be a large part of their number who sincerely want to improve things for everyone. People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.
It's very hard to sympathise with people when they are ignorant to the needs of hundreds of thousands, ironically, causing significantly more pollution than there otherwise would have been!The fact they are all able to take such a lot of time off work as well, and ignore their home lives, speaks volumes.
I genuinely wonder how many of these protestors take yearly holidays, eat meat, use central heating powered by normal gas/coal etc, have a car and drive it in an uneconomical way, etc.
I find it very hypocritical of most people.
Extracts from attendee report on a Tyndall Centre Radical Emission Reduction conference said:
Given the academic reputation of the Tyndall Centre and of course the credentials of the Royal Society, I was hoping for a useful discussion on rapid deployment of technologies such as CCS, how the world might breathe new life into nuclear and other such topics, but this was far from the content of the sessions that I was able to attend. Rather, this was a room of catastrophists (as in “catastrophic global warming”), with the prevailing view, at least to my ears, that the issue could only be addressed by the complete transformation of the global energy and political systems, with the latter moving to one of state control and regulated consumerism. in cities
The posters that dotted the lecture theatre lobby area covered topics as diverse as vegan diets to an eventual return to low technology hunter-gatherer societies (but thankfully there was one CCS poster in the middle of all this).
Much to my surprise I was not really at an emission reduction conference (despite the label saying I was), but a political ideology conference.
There was a round of applause when one audience member asked how LNG and coal exporters in Australia might be “annihilated” following their (supposed) support for the repeal of the carbon tax in that country.
Then when politicians get a rush of blood to the glands and go carbon crazy they see they're about to lose their cushy jobs and a u-turn follows aka Doing A Macron. Take the case of Australia, where this is the latest headline:The posters that dotted the lecture theatre lobby area covered topics as diverse as vegan diets to an eventual return to low technology hunter-gatherer societies (but thankfully there was one CCS poster in the middle of all this).
Much to my surprise I was not really at an emission reduction conference (despite the label saying I was), but a political ideology conference.
There was a round of applause when one audience member asked how LNG and coal exporters in Australia might be “annihilated” following their (supposed) support for the repeal of the carbon tax in that country.
Giant Australian Coal Mine Gets The Go-Ahead
These highly selfish disruptive actions are deliberately provocative as per announcements about closing airports with drones, all they're achieving in cities is to increase emissions and lose support.
Grahamdub said:
A Winner Is You said:
Grahamdub said:
Yertis said:
Grahamdub said:
They have arrested someone for trying to drive through a protest though. It's good that they have their priorities right
On what basis? It’ll be interesting to know whether they get charged. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ma...
Nexus Icon said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Nexus Icon said:
People have been politely warning about climate change for 40 years - that hasn't worked at all.
We've had the fuel price escalator, punitive road tax air passenger duty, all intended to reduce CO2. Plus massive subsidies for wind power, reductions in coal fired power stations. UK carbon emissions per head are the lowest for over 100 years. What more do you want?I'd like world peace and carbon neutral industry. Who wouldn't? I'm also realistic enough to know we're unlikely to achieve that as a country, never mind a planet so 'what I want' is continued and accelerated progression towards it, regardless of how difficult it might be. Pointless "virtue signaling" targets, such as the "All EVs by 2025" and "zero emissions countrywide by 2050" don't cut it for me. I want real progression in alternative fuel research, reduced deforestation worldwide, less non-biodegradable packaging, and no single-use plastic waste floating around in the Pacific Ocean. None of these things are beyond our means so why the resistance to it?
I can't remember the last time I threw a single use plastic bottle into the Pacific Ocean (or any body of water for that matter), nor do I have any recollection of pushing a drinking straw up a sea turtle's nose. So don't try to guilt trip me about it whilst you stop me from getting to work, or hospital. Maybe the protesters should direct their attention to the parts of the world who think it's fine to throw their rubbish (including plastics) into the nearest bit of open water. Ah, but if they rocked up in India or Bangladesh or any of the Pacific-Rim nations, they'd be swiftly removed from the streets and thrown in a s
t-hole jail until their friends can stump up the bribe money to get them out. Don't accuse me of destroying the planet by flying off for two week's holiday when the Deputy Leader of the Green Party is posting on social media about her smashing holiday touring France in a VW Camper Van.
Research into alternative fuels hasn't yet created a non-polluting replacement for petrol/diesel and at present electric cars are only playthings for virtue-signalling urban hipsters who never need to go more than 50 miles in any direction to source their ethical tofu.
Give me the opportunity to buy an electric car with the range of a petrol car and that can be recharged in 2 minutes to full at a network of charging stations throughout the world AND that is no more expensive than an internal combustion car AND doesn't need its batteries replacing every ten years, then I'll consider it.
Until then, Extinction Rebellion and their ilk can do one.
Toaster said:
"Another attraction of hybrid marine engines is that they can be fuelled by diesel, LNG or hydrogen, and use a fuel cell, batteries or an electric motor. This capability makes hybrids particularly suitable for ferries in coastal or enclosed waters, explained DNV GL’s director of battery services and products, Narve Mjøs, who has seen increasing interest from cruise ferries between Portsmouth and Santander. UK shipbuilder Ferguson Marine has built Catriona, a £12.3m diesel-electric-battery-power hybrid ferry for CalMac to use on its Clyde and Hebridean routes."
Slightly glosses over the issues this one - while CalMac do have a few Diesel/Battery ferries that are, after a fashion, actually working, the Diesel/LNG ferries are turning into a complete farce. The Glen Sannox is still sitting rusting outside the shipyard, still in the position it appears on Streetview - https://goo.gl/maps/Usumw2M5H5JpD7so7 Still no sign of the other ferry being launched & legal action aplenty between Fergusons & Calmac. According to a recent BBC article, switching to LNG every time it docks will actually cause more greenhouse emissions through sending unburnt methane up the funnel than just running on diesel would do.I sort of secretly hope a disinfranchised member of the public goes postal and drives his Tesla or other BEV at them/ over them. The deliciousness of the irony will probably be lost on these human scum. Mind you Bristol is such a nest of s I'm surprised pornhub don't move their head office there......./notserious;)
s I'm surprised pornhub don't move their head office there......./notserious;)RemyMartin81D said:
I sort of secretly hope a disinfranchised member of the public goes postal and drives his Tesla or other BEV at them/ over them. The deliciousness of the irony will probably be lost on these human scum. Mind you Bristol is such a nest of s I'm surprised pornhub don't move their head office there......./notserious;)
Cathy Barry does live here. Don't Google her at work though s I'm surprised pornhub don't move their head office there......./notserious;)Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff