Facebook bans UK far right groups

[amusingduck]

Countdown said:

amusingduck said:

Why does communism get a pass? You would never see an MP saying that Hitler did more good than bad, but it has been said about Mao despite causing 5 times more deaths. Bonkers.

Which MP's have said that about Miao?

Abbott.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/27/diane-...

I don't think it's about Abbott specifically, more the general climate of it being not particularly unacceptable to say.

[Countdown]

amusingduck said:

Abbott.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/27/diane-...

I don't think it's about Abbott specifically, more the general climate of it being not particularly unacceptable to say.

Jesus, what a muppet....

[Rivenink]

With respect, I was thinking primarily within the context of facebook and recent events in New Zealand etc.

[mattnovak]

plasticpig said:

Stalin, Pol-Pot and Mao Tse Tung spring to mind.

Just remembered an episode of Vic 'n' Bob - Bob got a tattoo of a mouses tongue instead of Mao Tse Tung

[biggbn]

amusingduck said:

Abbott.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/27/diane-...

I don't think it's about Abbott specifically, more the general climate of it being not particularly unacceptable to say.

Context was it was a debate about who was the worst dictator, on balance, mao was less evil than Hitler? Discuss

[Aphex]

Facebook and Twitter are censoring themselves out of their own platform, very clever

[Catat10]

andy_s said:

Far left is ok then...?

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

[Ridgemont]

Catat10 said:

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

• cough*momentum*cough*

[TTwiggy]

Rivenink said:

andy_s said:

Far left is ok then...?

Have there been any incidents where someone subscribing to far-left ideology has embarked on mass-murder?

I'm genuinely ignorant on whether they have as all of the incidents I'm aware of have been attributed to the far-right.

If you mean individuals or groups, as opposed to whole states, you probably need to go back to the RAF (Baader-Meinhof) in Germany in the 1970s.

[judas]

Ridgemont said:

Catat10 said:

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

• cough*momentum*cough*

Class War

[wc98]

for me it is their site, they can ban what they like. no one is forced to use facebook.

[Catat10]

Ridgemont said:

Catat10 said:

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

• cough*momentum*cough*

What has Momentum posted on social media that spreads hate, attacks or excludes?

Assuming you're referring to anti-semitism, something Momentum has condemned and recognises as an issue that needs to be dealt with.

[Dog Star]

techiedave said:

As the title suggests
I won't be able to check out Jayda's massive assets anymore

She is one of my guilty pleasures - I can just imagine her all clad in tight PVC gear with a riding crop. Just rude!

[S11Steve]

Catat10 said:

Ridgemont said:

Catat10 said:

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

• cough*momentum*cough*

What has Momentum posted on social media that spreads hate, attacks or excludes?

Assuming you're referring to anti-semitism, something Momentum has condemned and recognises as an issue that needs to be dealt with.

Spend a few minutes on any of the Momentum groups on social media, and it doesn't take long to find abusive or offensive comments about Tories, the Rich, Bankers, Trump, Brexiteers etc.

But that is all #kindergentlerpolitics, so I guess it's OK.

[Gilhooligan]

Catat10 said:

andy_s said:

Far left is ok then...?

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

Antifa?

[Rivenink]

Gilhooligan said:

Catat10 said:

andy_s said:

Far left is ok then...?

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

Antifa?

I'm not sure I have too much of an issue of people calling for the exclusion of fascists from society.

The tolerant must not be tolerant of the intolerant.

It's a necessary paradox.

[amusingduck]

Rivenink said:

Gilhooligan said:

Catat10 said:

andy_s said:

Far left is ok then...?

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

Antifa?

I'm not sure I have too much of an issue of people calling for the exclusion of fascists from society.

The tolerant must not be tolerant of the intolerant.

It's a necessary paradox.

Doesn't that just reinforce their beliefs?

I don't think hiding the nastiness is going to work.

By curtailing frivolous and "fighting" words, the Party seeks to narrow the range of thought altogether, such that eventually, thoughtcrime will be literally impossible.

It's like that's the goal, if you hide it well enough people won't be able to form those viewpoints. Except of course they can, because you can't stop people from talking to each other. It should be out in the open and challenged, not hidden away.

[Catat10]

Gilhooligan said:

Catat10 said:

andy_s said:

Far left is ok then...?

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

Antifa?

I was waiting for someone to mention Antifa. You are absolutely right, it's unbelievable that they haven't been banned.
That are predominantly American, I was looking for an example of British based far-left groups since the news on the ban currently name British far-right.

[Catat10]

S11Steve said:

Catat10 said:

Ridgemont said:

Catat10 said:

Can you provide an example of a far-left social media page/group that spreads hate, attacks or calls for the exclusion of others on the basis of who they are?

• cough*momentum*cough*

What has Momentum posted on social media that spreads hate, attacks or excludes?

Assuming you're referring to anti-semitism, something Momentum has condemned and recognises as an issue that needs to be dealt with.

Spend a few minutes on any of the Momentum groups on social media, and it doesn't take long to find abusive or offensive comments about Tories, the Rich, Bankers, Trump, Brexiteers etc.

But that is all #kindergentlerpolitics, so I guess it's OK.

Again, Momentum aren't promoting hate, attacks o'r exclusion. Far-right groups do. Abusive and offensive comments by followers do not represent the point of view or opinion of the group itself.

[Rivenink]

amusingduck said:

Doesn't that just reinforce their beliefs?

I don't think hiding the nastiness is going to work.

By curtailing frivolous and "fighting" words, the Party seeks to narrow the range of thought altogether, such that eventually, thoughtcrime will be literally impossible.

It's like that's the goal, if you hide it well enough people won't be able to form those viewpoints. Except of course they can, because you can't stop people from talking to each other. It should be out in the open and challenged, not hidden away.

The point of not being tolerant of fascism is not to eradicate it, it is to prevent its insidious messages from being widespread. Fascism encourages intolerance. It preys upon the primal, tribal instincts of "us vs them". Most people are not fascists, but they can be influenced into supporting it when exposed to the propaganda.