Theresa May (Vol.2)

[Patrick Bateman]

Not sure how people can spin this is a good result for May.

Over a third of her MP's have voted against her- no doubt more if she hadn't agreed to not lead the party into the next election.

What authority does she have in the house?

[Vaud]

abzmike said:

Vaud said:

When the books are eventually written it would not surprise me that May indirectly triggered the vote by persuading some to submit their letters in exchange for furthers honours or roles... (yes I am a cynic)

But there must be nothing more surprising to someone holding a gun to your head (JRM) then to pull the trigger yourself and watch him recoil in surprise.

Could TM be the Mistress of the Dark Arts? Who would have thunk it...

It would explain JRMs anger tonight...

[citizensm1th]

jsf said:

off the spectrum.

Yes it is a bit special to pick as an example of a good PM a film about said PM seducing one of his staff

very special indeed

[don'tbesilly]

citizensm1th said:

don'tbesilly said:

CS is just overwhelmed with joy.

He can still tell the grand kiddies that he voted for May so she can 'own' Brexit.

He's probably already put in his own request to May for a framed photo with an autograph so the grand kiddies know just who May was

And the tories are acting just as predicted, how is your brexit going? all i need now is a no deal/wto and mine is complete. happy days

The alternative being May's deal, it sounds like you and I want the same thing.

I'll ask for May's autographed pic in a frame if that's what we end up with, and post it on, is that a deal?

[buggalugs]

Patrick Bateman said:

What authority does she have in the house?

More than anyone else apparently

[Patrick Bateman]

buggalugs said:

More than anyone else apparently

Of little use when she still can't get a vote through.

[citizensm1th]

don'tbesilly said:

The alternative being May's deal, it sounds like you and I want the same thing.

I'll ask for May's autographed pic in a frame if that's what we end up with, and post it on, is that a deal?

indeed we do ,i think we differ on what we think the outcome will be though.

oh you can keep the picture it might scare the cats

[buggalugs]

Patrick Bateman said:

buggalugs said:

More than anyone else apparently

Of little use when she still can't get a vote through.

That is vexing. Maybe she only won because nobody else is stupid enough to want that job right now... but I doubt it.

[MYOB]

buggalugs said:

MYOB said:

Why hasn't this been widely reported. Despicable from the Tories to garner extra votes.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/suspended-t...

meh, 13 months on and no arrest or charge, seems like a reasonable call in the circumstances

He hasn't been cleared yet either. My understanding is that the case is still open. And why only on the day of a critical vote, do the Tories reinstate the whip?

[Patrick Bateman]

saaby93 said:

199 330 60%
200 317 63%
Does a PMs popularity normally go the other way

Bit of a difference between a fresh leadership contest for a totally new PM where there are other named contenders and a sitting PM who you'd expect to command a massive percentage of their own party in a confidence vote.

[Tuna]

frisbee said:

Or that the government pay for Facebook ads to persuade people to support the "deal".

Fake news bingo.. Reference please.

In other news, Facbook have confirmed that The Peoples Vote spent over £150,000 in just two months on over 1,200 seperate adverts (also known as micro-targetting) for their cause. Apparently it's OK when they do it.

[graylag]

Tuna said:

frisbee said:

Or that the government pay for Facebook ads to persuade people to support the "deal".

Fake news bingo.. Reference please.

In other news, Facbook have confirmed that The Peoples Vote spent over £150,000 in just two months on over 1,200 seperate adverts (also known as micro-targetting) for their cause. Apparently it's OK when they do it.

Wibble. David Icke is alive and thriving over here

[saaby93]

Patrick Bateman said:

Not sure how people can spin this is a good result for May.

Over a third of her MP's have voted against her- no doubt more if she hadn't agreed to not lead the party into the next election.

What authority does she have in the house?

Not sure how people can spin this as a bad result for May
It's a straightforward test as to whether MPs believe a leadership contest should be held
It was well over the 50:50 line so no contest
Any decent organisation would now set their differences aside and proceed as one

However this is politics

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

968 said:

Quite right. The comments by JRM on the news were appallingly sour grapes.

Youd be forgiven for thinking JRM was the opposition

He’s plotted in the shadows for years and finally plucked up the courage to play his hand, and lost. Seems quite a few MPs indicated they would support the ERG and didn’t.

It’s a terrible situation when the main opposition are your own back benchers. Labour sitting back and letting the conservatives implode. I wonder if Mogg would be so intent on undermining his own party leader if there was a credible opposition party?

Let’s hope the ERG lot finally split and form their own party.

The Conservatives desperately need to sort their st out and start pulling together. If anyone but Corbynovich and McDonnellov were the grim alternative they would be getting absolutely destroyed in the polls.

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

Fake news bingo.. Reference please.

In other news, Facbook have confirmed that The Peoples Vote spent over £150,000 in just two months on over 1,200 seperate adverts (also known as micro-targetting) for their cause. Apparently it's OK when they do it.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/10/almost-100k-of-public-money-spent-on-brexit-deal-facebook-ads

[Patrick Bateman]

kurt535 said:

Funny how brexit self harmers are bhing TM having 'ONLY' 2/3rds majority of her party is a weak result yet the brexit vote outcome is quite ok, despite how tiny it was. Double standards!!

A confidence vote by your own party where you're expected to command a massive majority to have any authority is going to have massively different criteria for success compared with a referendum vote put to the public.

[chow pan toon]

The irony of the extreme Brexiteers trying to push a narrative that May's victory wasn't wide enough when they've been moaning at remainers for not accepting a 52/48 result would be funny if it wasn't so bloody annoying and crassly stupid.

[davepoth]

Patrick Bateman said:

kurt535 said:

Funny how brexit self harmers are bhing TM having 'ONLY' 2/3rds majority of her party is a weak result yet the brexit vote outcome is quite ok, despite how tiny it was. Double standards!!

A confidence vote by your own party where you're expected to command a massive majority to have any authority is going to have massively different criteria for success compared with a referendum vote put to the public.

When you need 103% of your party (there or thereabouts) to follow the whip in order to have the confidence of the house and you can only have 63% of it, you have a very big problem.

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

citizensm1th said:

don'tbesilly said:

CS is just overwhelmed with joy.

He can still tell the grand kiddies that he voted for May so she can 'own' Brexit.

He's probably already put in his own request to May for a framed photo with an autograph so the grand kiddies know just who May was

And the tories are acting just as predicted, how is your brexit going? all i need now is a no deal/wto and mine is complete. happy days

The alternative being May's deal, it sounds like you and I want the same thing.

I'll ask for May's autographed pic in a frame if that's what we end up with, and post it on, is that a deal?

The choice (peoples vote) will be between Mays (soft Brexit) deal, or remain. Happy days.

[saaby93]

ash73 said:

£39Bn divorce bill .

Dont forget the £39bn is payable for agreed commitments and spread over the next 5 or so years, irrespective of deal or no deal
Or indeed remain